Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 723

mapuc · 05-03-23, 12:40 PM

In the news some hours ago the journalist asked this expert on Russia, if it could be a false flag operation-He, the expert, could not rule this out.

I say it isn't a false flag operation-If it had been before the war started, then I would have said yes.

They do not need some excuse to send hundreds of missiles against Ukraine-They are at war.(And 90 % of them get shot down)

However an attack on the heart of Russia could mean that someone has crossed the red line.

I also say the same as Jim-Sad they missed their target(s)

Markus

Skybird · 05-03-23, 12:50 PM

What a pathetic little puff in the air the explosion was. Attacking the Kremlin - with a tiny toy-thing like that...? And what nice viewing angle the shooting cameras had, and they where active just at the right time, in the middle of the night. Maybe some Romeo showing his Julia what a nice new smart phone he got himself?

It all stinks to heaven. False Flag, I say, to make Russians rally around Putin's flag or preparing them for Kremlin escalations to come.

Jimbuna · 05-03-23, 12:58 PM

It is being reported that Putrid was not in the Kremlin at the time but in another residence outside Moscow.

mapuc · 05-03-23, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

What a pathetic little puff in the air the explosion was. Attacking the Kremlin - with a tiny toy-thing like that...? And what nice viewing angle the shooting cameras had, and they where active just at the right time, in the middle of the night. Maybe some Romeo showing his Julia what a nice new smart phone he got himself?

It all stinks to heaven. False Flag, I say, to make Russians rally around Putin's flag or preparing them for Kremlin escalations to come.

Seeing from your point-of-view then it most likely could be a false flag.

So far I always had thought that Crimea was their red line you do not cross.

The question is do Russia need some excuse for escalate the war ?

What if they have created this false flag operation to blame a third country ?

Markus

Jimbuna · 05-03-23, 01:49 PM

We will probably only see an escalation if and when the Russian people start problems for Putrid.

Skybird · 05-03-23, 01:51 PM

They do blame Ukraine.

The escalation could be against Russia: a new draft - or declaring martial law.

Catfish · 05-03-23, 02:23 PM

It does not matter whether it was a russian false flag op or a "real" attack.
Go on, apply pressure

Russians will love to be mustered for a war that is no war but a "special operation". One step closer to revolution.

Dargo · 05-03-23, 03:41 PM

US Embassy in Ukraine warns of heightened threat of missile attacks

The US Embassy in Ukraine warned Wednesday of “an ongoing heightened threat of missile attacks,” including in Kyiv.

“In light of the recent uptick in strikes across Ukraine and inflammatory rhetoric from Moscow, the Department of State cautions U.S. citizens of an ongoing heightened threat of missile attacks, including in Kyiv and Kyiv Oblast,” the embassy said in a security alert.

In the alert, the embassy urged Americans “to observe air alarms, shelter appropriately, follow guidance from local authorities,” and take actions like immediately seeking shelter inside or going to the lowest level of their buildings “with the fewest exterior walls, windows, and openings; close any doors and sit near an interior wall, away from any windows or openings.”

“If you hear a loud explosion or if sirens are activated, immediately seek cover,” it advised. “Be aware that even if the incoming missile or drone is intercepted, falling debris represents a significant risk,” the alert said. “After the attack, stay away from any debris.”

The US government has repeatedly warned Americans to leave Ukraine and not to travel there amid the ongoing war with Russia.,, https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-...-23/index.html

https://ua.usembassy.gov/security-al...d-kyiv-oblast/

Jimbuna · 05-04-23, 06:11 AM

Jimbuna · 05-04-23, 06:53 AM

Jimbuna · 05-04-23, 07:35 AM

Ingenious

Quote:

Finland's largest daily newspaper is fighting back against Russia's media restrictions by hiding news about the war in Ukraine in a secret room within a video game.

Helsingin Sanomat's editor-in-chief Antero Mukka said the paper had to get creative in trying to breach the restrictions and decided to conceal articles in the shooter game Counter-Strike, which is popular among young Russian men.

Russia has cracked down on independent journalism by banning free reporting and denying Russians access to media content produced abroad since Moscow launched what it calls its "special military operation" in Ukraine.

"As we have been widely concerned about the press freedom situation and freedom of speech in Russia, we decided that maybe it's possible to find some new channels to provide Russian audience with some reliable, independent journalism for example about the situations in Ukraine," Mr Mukka told Reuters news agency.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...0bbdad66&ei=16

mapuc · 05-04-23, 07:47 AM

As mentioned before. Russia will blame some third country for being behind the attack on Kremlin.

Quote:

Speaking to journalists on Thursday, the Kremlin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said Ukraine was merely implementing US plans “dictated” by Washington, but did not provide any evidence to support the allegations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-kremlin-putin

Markus

Jimbuna · 05-04-23, 07:52 AM

mapuc · 05-04-23, 09:22 AM

There are some fighter pilot who would gladly defend Ukraine in the F-15 or F16.

https://twitter.com/InfoAgeStrategy/...552896/photo/1

Markus

Catfish · 05-04-23, 09:26 AM

It really stinks to the high heavens, while i have nothing against Ukraine retaliating (after all it was Russia that sent and still sends missiles to Kyyiv and even had a special corps sent to kill President Zelensky, so how can Russia protest??

), i doubt it was a "third country".

I am quite sure it was done by Russia to be able to escalate once more, and have a cheap justification.
Like Skybird wrote, escalating from draft to martial law, to sending more missiles at Kyyiv, to threaten the US with retaliation (the NERVE).

Another possibility would be intern russian sabotage trying to undermine Putin's position. After all whatever you make of it this was not a sign of strength.
From being able to get a drone there, to the hasty explanation "it was done by a foreign state". How does strongman Putin think he is able to "protect Russia" with this happening.

05-03-23, 12:40 PM	#10831
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,968 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	In the news some hours ago the journalist asked this expert on Russia, if it could be a false flag operation-He, the expert, could not rule this out. I say it isn't a false flag operation-If it had been before the war started, then I would have said yes. They do not need some excuse to send hundreds of missiles against Ukraine-They are at war.(And 90 % of them get shot down) However an attack on the heart of Russia could mean that someone has crossed the red line. I also say the same as Jim-Sad they missed their target(s) Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

05-03-23, 12:50 PM	#10832
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,570 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	What a pathetic little puff in the air the explosion was. Attacking the Kremlin - with a tiny toy-thing like that...? And what nice viewing angle the shooting cameras had, and they where active just at the right time, in the middle of the night. Maybe some Romeo showing his Julia what a nice new smart phone he got himself? It all stinks to heaven. False Flag, I say, to make Russians rally around Putin's flag or preparing them for Kremlin escalations to come. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-03-23, 12:58 PM	#10833
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It is being reported that Putrid was not in the Kremlin at the time but in another residence outside Moscow. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

05-03-23, 01:49 PM	#10835
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	We will probably only see an escalation if and when the Russian people start problems for Putrid. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

05-03-23, 01:51 PM	#10836
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,570 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	They do blame Ukraine. The escalation could be against Russia: a new draft - or declaring martial law. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-03-23, 02:23 PM	#10837
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,898 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	It does not matter whether it was a russian false flag op or a "real" attack. Go on, apply pressure Russians will love to be mustered for a war that is no war but a "special operation". One step closer to revolution. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

05-04-23, 06:11 AM	#10839
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05-04-23, 06:53 AM	#10840
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05-04-23, 07:52 AM	#10843
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05-04-23, 09:22 AM	#10844
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,968 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	There are some fighter pilot who would gladly defend Ukraine in the F-15 or F16. https://twitter.com/InfoAgeStrategy/...552896/photo/1 Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

05-04-23, 09:26 AM	#10845
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,898 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	It really stinks to the high heavens, while i have nothing against Ukraine retaliating (after all it was Russia that sent and still sends missiles to Kyyiv and even had a special corps sent to kill President Zelensky, so how can Russia protest?? ), i doubt it was a "third country". I am quite sure it was done by Russia to be able to escalate once more, and have a cheap justification. Like Skybird wrote, escalating from draft to martial law, to sending more missiles at Kyyiv, to threaten the US with retaliation (the NERVE). Another possibility would be intern russian sabotage trying to undermine Putin's position. After all whatever you make of it this was not a sign of strength. From being able to get a drone there, to the hasty explanation "it was done by a foreign state". How does strongman Putin think he is able to "protect Russia" with this happening. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.