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Old 11-19-2013, 08:49 AM   #31
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We use Dinars in the States now? No wonder my dollars aren't worth crap anymore..... Sorry I had to..
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:01 AM   #32
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NP.

OK, so a bit more digging shows that the $95 is for the premium (altogether - oooooooh!) and the standard edition runs at anywhere between $50 - 60. So for that extra $45, what do you get?

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Early Access: Before purchase please read the details of the Early Access Program in our dev blog (post #38 and post #39). General or partial refunds are not allowed. Buyers of the Standard Edition of the Pre-Order Program will get early access in December 2013 prior to public release (the exact date will be announced later). Buyers of the Premium Edition will get the early access on November 19th 2013. Upgrade from the Standard to the Premium Edition is not available.
Special Label: Buyers of the Premium Edition will get a special label inside the game interface next to their nickname which will stand out from the other players in multiplayer mode. You can turn it off or on as you wish.
Aircraft Set: Buyers of the Premium Edition will get 10 aircraft (8 standard and 2 special aircraft (La-5 and Fw 190 A-3, which cannot be obtained in the game)).


a special label inside the game interface next to their nickname which will stand out from the other players in multiplayer mode.

Edit - forgot to say 1C can take this pricing strategy and manoeuvre it into a tight fitting space where lies a permanent shadow, particularly the bit about no upgrade from standard to premium. I imagine 777 are possibly regretting getting into bed with 1C.
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:23 PM   #33
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Some videos for you to enjoy

My IL2 Battle of Stalingrad playlist.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:55 PM   #34
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Wow 2 whole extra aircraft AND a label that identifies you as gullible. What an incentive. If 1C can find room next to their heads, the pricing model might fit in.

The video is not as impressive as the Team Fusion CloD videos going around.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:34 PM   #35
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Wow 2 whole extra aircraft AND a label that identifies you as gullible. What an incentive.
That and the fact that you get to play it several months before it's released...

And anyway, the money goes towards the game's development. That's the reason I pre-ordered.
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Old 11-21-2013, 02:09 AM   #36
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Great, you get to play the alpha between 2-5 weeks ahead of others. I glad you think it's worth the extra. I have to earn my money and can't justify spending it on this.
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Great, you get to play the alpha between 2-5 weeks ahead of others. I glad you think it's worth the extra. I have to earn my money and can't justify spending it on this.
The game's being released in Q2 2014. That's 4 months away, not 2-5 weeks. The whole point of the alpha testing is to make sure that the game isn't another CloD. And I have to earn my money too. My parents aren't idiots who buy expensive stuff for me out of idiots own pockets.

And I'm sure the 3000 other people who preordered had to earn the money themselves as well.
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I'm not convinced insults are being traded here but more a case of one or two people being frank about their opinions.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:56 AM   #39
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The game's being released in Q2 2014. That's 4 months away, not 2-5 weeks.
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Buyers of the Standard Edition of the Pre-Order Program will get early access in December 2013
Your premium gets you a maximum of 5 weeks (and a few days) over those who preordered the standard edition, who then join in the alpha. A minimum of a week and a half.

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The premium The whole point of the alpha testing is to make sure that the game isn't another CloD.
I assume CloD was also alpha and beta tested?

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And I have to earn my money too. My parents aren't idiots who buy expensive stuff for me out of idiots own pockets.
For which I wholeheartedly retract my comment.
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The game's being released in Q2 2014. That's 4 months away, not 2-5 weeks. The whole point of the alpha testing is to make sure that the game isn't another CloD. And I have to earn my money too. My parents aren't idiots who buy expensive stuff for me out of idiots own pockets.

And I'm sure the 3000 other people who preordered had to earn the money themselves as well.

And TarJak, I don't take kindly to being insulted just for wanting to support a genre I love.
No insult was being directed at you. I wasn't saying that you were gullible although I can see how you make that conclusion. I was commenting on the 1C pricing and marketing and not your activities. I don't see the extra value for the money.

What I said about the video was not directed at your production or editing skills. It was directed at the game graphics. I've seen other videos of the game, where much more time and effort was spent on production and would say the same thing. The game is not all that impressive IMO.
Perhaps I should have been clearer in my comments. Using subsim on my phone as I was at the time means I tend to snap breifer posts off than at my PC.

If you still feel that insulted, then I suggest you put me in your ignore list.

I have a policy of not allowing myself to be upset by anything other people post here. I also have a policy of not apologising for anything that I say here. If anyone has a problem with what I post I'm happy to either argue my case or have the moderators sort it out.

I believe most of us come to Subsim for the fun and community. A part of this community is sometimes reading things you don't agree with or that might be construed as being close to the bone. In life you have to deal with a lot of things that may be uncomfortable and you have to grow a thick enough hide to deal with them.

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What I said about the video was not directed at your production or editing skills. It was directed at the game graphics.
Fair enough. I agree that the graphics aren't as good as CloD with TF 4.0.

Although it does mean that I don't have to put my graphics settings all the way down to have smooth gameplay, which is nice.

But Clod with TF 4.0 is definitely better in the eye-candy department
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Why would you want an aircraft that wasn't in that theatre? Only Friedrichs and Gustavs, no Emil.

I hope 777 stick to historical facts.
Sorry to reply to an older post but...

Bf-109 E-7/Bs took part in the battle.

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Here's a list of when stuff will be added to the alpha:

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- Week 1: LaGG
- Week 2: Bf 109 F-4
- AI will be added to the early access sessions 2-3 weeks after the start.
- By December you’ll get ammo and we’ll start trying out various sorts of un-lockable mods.
- The general Stalingrad map will be finished by January.
- The Mission Editor will become available in the Spring.
Can't wait for that 109

And of course, guns in this combat flight simulator would be nice as well
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Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has participated this week in the launch of the Early Access. Overall it has been a big success so far technically with minimal issues. Good to see so many flyers having fun for a change while starting to realize our vision for a WWII product.
 
The early days of ROF were so awfully negative and difficult that this has been a nice change of pace for me and the team. Of course, without those early troubles we would not have learned how to get better, but we have and now the folks who stuck by us the past four years get to have a new sim to enjoy. The rest of the community now has an additional option to consider which is always a good thing. So special thanks to all who have supported us in the past and the newcomers who see the potential for BOS in the future.
 
Loft will have a new Dev Blog tomorrow where you can learn about the plan for next week. There is still A LOT to work on, but It only gets better from here!
 

 
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Here's a picture of the Ju-87 D-3 cockpit:
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