Looking for real ONI Recognition Manual

dmlavan · 01-14-08, 02:21 PM

Does anyone know where you can either view online, or purchase, one of the ONI recognition manuals for either Japanese warships or merchants for WWII? I've found some sights that offer CD's that have "their" version (i.e. include computer-aided images which obviously weren't around back then...).

Donner · 01-14-08, 02:37 PM

http://www.history-on-cdrom.com/id88.htm

These are the real manuals in pdf format. I purchased ONI-208J (Revised) from them last year. No worries on the authenticity. Great manual.

Japanese Naval Vessels of World War Two as seen by US Naval Intelligence (ISBN 0-87021-314-8) is reprint of ONI-41-421, Index to all Japanese Naval Vessels, ONI 41-42, Japanese Naval Vessels, ONI-220J Japanese Submarines, and ONI 225J Japanese Landing Operations and Equipment.

The book is out of print but can be found quite easily through online used book search engines. Plus you can save some cash buying the hard copy as opposed to the CDs of these manuals.

Cheers!

Captain Krunch · 01-14-08, 02:37 PM

I've bought CDs from History on CD-Rom, and their PDFs don't appear to be anything but scans from the original documents.

http://www.history-on-cdrom.com/id88.htm

[Edit: Ha, looks like Donner beat me to the punch!]

Blue · 01-14-08, 04:17 PM

I wish the UBISoft hard copy, packaged with the Collectors Edition was available seperatly.

dmlavan · 01-14-08, 06:28 PM

Gents,
I had seen the CD version from that website but didn't know if they were "the real thing". Thanks!

scrag · 01-14-08, 10:33 PM

Check out Naval Institue Press as they republished the old ONI compilation:
Japanese Naval Vessels of WWII
As Seen by US NAVAL Intelligence
ISBN 0-87021-314-8
aka
ONI 41-421
ONI 41-42
ONI 220J
ONI 225J
Hope it helps

Ungern85 · 10-08-22, 09:11 AM

I found it at this link

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/NHC...g%20Manual.pdf

DeutscheQuality · 10-08-22, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ungern85

I found it at this link

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/NHC...g%20Manual.pdf

Good finding!

Gilbou · 10-16-22, 09:14 AM

I got a little book with the limited edition collector's edition.
I could scan each page as PDF and perhaps put it somewhere.
You would have to print all of those, and bind them to create your own copy.

Joe S · 11-25-22, 07:00 PM

Fortunately, there is a huge variety of World War Two US military manuals available online. The only trick is to use the correct search terms. With a little practice you should be able to find quite a few.
You may be surprised to learn that although the originals are rare, they are available. Prices might not be as high as you might think. I have found ten originals, including the Identification manuals for merchant ships and ONI 41-42 in mint condition in its original cardboard box. Naturally, rather than put wear and tear on the original, I have the reprint referred to above which is fantastic.
You can find originals on E-bay and at militaria collectors shows such as Show of Shows in Louisville Ky. You can also find them at gun shows. Dont expect every table to have a selection of original manuals. They are not common. You might spend a long time looking, but they are out there. Once you start networking with collectors you should be able to find some interesting items. One thing that I found at local gun shows was a 1944 USN manual on Naval Gunnery and a selection of various torpedo fire control manuals. Very interesting!

If you have a maritime museum nearby, check with them to see what they might have. The Maritime Museum at Manitowoc WI has an original USN WWII TDC manual.
Large universities also have been known to have interesting World War Two govt publications.
Good luck!

Joe S

01-14-08, 02:21 PM	#1
dmlavan Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 347 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Looking for real ONI Recognition Manual Does anyone know where you can either view online, or purchase, one of the ONI recognition manuals for either Japanese warships or merchants for WWII? I've found some sights that offer CD's that have "their" version (i.e. include computer-aided images which obviously weren't around back then...).

01-14-08, 02:37 PM	#2
Donner Officer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: On patrol... Posts: 244 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	http://www.history-on-cdrom.com/id88.htm These are the real manuals in pdf format. I purchased ONI-208J (Revised) from them last year. No worries on the authenticity. Great manual. Japanese Naval Vessels of World War Two as seen by US Naval Intelligence (ISBN 0-87021-314-8) is reprint of ONI-41-421, Index to all Japanese Naval Vessels, ONI 41-42, Japanese Naval Vessels, ONI-220J Japanese Submarines, and ONI 225J Japanese Landing Operations and Equipment. The book is out of print but can be found quite easily through online used book search engines. Plus you can save some cash buying the hard copy as opposed to the CDs of these manuals. Cheers! __________________ "Sink 'Em All!"- Uncle Charlie....."Angriff, Ran, Versenken!"- Onkel Karl

01-14-08, 10:33 PM	#6
scrag Medic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pearl Harbor, Hawaii Posts: 161 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Japanese Naval Vessels of WWII Check out Naval Institue Press as they republished the old ONI compilation: Japanese Naval Vessels of WWII As Seen by US NAVAL Intelligence ISBN 0-87021-314-8 aka ONI 41-421 ONI 41-42 ONI 220J ONI 225J Hope it helps __________________

10-08-22, 09:11 AM	#7
Ungern85 Nub Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	ONI 208 I found it at this link https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/NHC...g%20Manual.pdf

11-25-22, 07:00 PM	#10
Joe S XO Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 409 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	original ONI manuals Fortunately, there is a huge variety of World War Two US military manuals available online. The only trick is to use the correct search terms. With a little practice you should be able to find quite a few. You may be surprised to learn that although the originals are rare, they are available. Prices might not be as high as you might think. I have found ten originals, including the Identification manuals for merchant ships and ONI 41-42 in mint condition in its original cardboard box. Naturally, rather than put wear and tear on the original, I have the reprint referred to above which is fantastic. You can find originals on E-bay and at militaria collectors shows such as Show of Shows in Louisville Ky. You can also find them at gun shows. Dont expect every table to have a selection of original manuals. They are not common. You might spend a long time looking, but they are out there. Once you start networking with collectors you should be able to find some interesting items. One thing that I found at local gun shows was a 1944 USN manual on Naval Gunnery and a selection of various torpedo fire control manuals. Very interesting! If you have a maritime museum nearby, check with them to see what they might have. The Maritime Museum at Manitowoc WI has an original USN WWII TDC manual. Large universities also have been known to have interesting World War Two govt publications. Good luck! Joe S

01-14-08, 02:37 PM	#3
Captain Krunch Mate Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 58 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I've bought CDs from History on CD-Rom, and their PDFs don't appear to be anything but scans from the original documents. http://www.history-on-cdrom.com/id88.htm [Edit: Ha, looks like Donner beat me to the punch!]

01-14-08, 04:17 PM	#4
Blue Watch Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 15 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	I wish the UBISoft hard copy, packaged with the Collectors Edition was available seperatly.

01-14-08, 06:28 PM	#5
dmlavan Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 347 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	Gents, I had seen the CD version from that website but didn't know if they were "the real thing". Thanks!

10-16-22, 09:14 AM	#9
Gilbou Chief Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: France Posts: 313 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	I got a little book with the limited edition collector's edition. I could scan each page as PDF and perhaps put it somewhere. You would have to print all of those, and bind them to create your own copy.