[REL] SH4 effects (and more) for SH3

[Hawk U-375]

Originally Posted by slow_n_ez

Ok.. thanks Hawk U-375 ... GREAT job You made it alot more realistic that what it was .... Kinda actually suprized me to really hear the torpedo hits plus the aftermath of it .....

Your Welcome.....Glad I could be apart of this Great Mod!!!!

[sh3rules]

Awesome mod. Haven't played much with it yet, but I look forward to the next patrols

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by Woof1701

Hi Rubini,

Thanks for pointing that out. Which of the files is responsible for the depth charge detonation splashes?

I'm playing with all the GWX splash*.tga inside of my texture folder (i guess that they are the same since stock) to overwrite the ones on RB Materials.dat while awaiting for a official reply from him on this matter. This makes the depth charge effects with old normal look again.

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Rubini

I'm playing with all the GWX splash*.tga inside of my texture folder (i guess that they are the same since stock) to overwrite the ones on RB Materials.dat while awaiting for a official reply from him on this matter. This makes the depth charge effects with old normal look again.

Do we put them in TNormal or TLowRes?

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Do we put them in TNormal or TLowRes?

...data\Textures\TNormal\tex

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Rubini

...data\Textures\TNormal\tex

Done... thanks for the quick reply!

[Hawk U-375]

Race check pm..on thoughts for 2.03

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Rubini

I'm playing with all the GWX splash*.tga inside of my texture folder (i guess that they are the same since stock) to overwrite the ones on RB Materials.dat while awaiting for a official reply from him on this matter. This makes the depth charge effects with old normal look again.

So far everything is checking out. Not done with all of them though. Everything has an Alpha channel that should have one. The Alpha channels are different though from stock to what I have done. I might change some of the Alpha channels to make them more like stock.
If you definitely wanted some changed, which ones should I concentrate on?

EDIT:

I compared all my TGAs to the stock ones and there are some differences. Some of my new TGAs include Alpha channels whereas the same stock one doesn't. Also some have different alpha channels for the same TGA. The ones that are different (either have an Alpha now or Alpha is different) are:

- black
- Fire_add
- int_halo
- pierreE
- pierreE2
- pierreE_test
- splash_vert_conic
- whoopsmal_add_02
- whoopsmal_add_03
- explosion
- explosion_halo_add
- CB
- bucata

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by Racerboy

So far everything is checking out. Not done with all of them though. Everything has an Alpha channel that should have one. The Alpha channels are different though from stock to what I have done. I might change some of the Alpha channels to make them more like stock.
If you definitely wanted some changed, which ones should I concentrate on?

The unique one that I have really noticed in game until now that probably have some problem was the depth charges splashes like i said. The others, I only tried to open with GIMP and noticed the absence of Alpha Channel or sometimes a texture that is in truth just a tiny white, etc...but I don´t noticed any problem in game. I don´t make extensive tests, I´m just playing my GWX 1.03 in dec 1942 and only have fired two fishes until now (using your mod) in two small merchants in the Carebean.
The explosions are really great, the hydrophone sounds too!

I have others feedbacks/observations that I will send by PM to you because they are more detailed and more a real feedback and suggestion than any other thing.

But I really think that some messed up was made with that textures in the Materials.dat. Perhaps someone imported them without using the correct graphic soft that work with transparences like Photoshop or GIMP, well i really don´t know (textures aren´t my land, I´m more a tweak man...LOL). Normally the game will run and will be not easy to notice the degradation (if any) of some effects in game when using a texture without transparence when it needs to have one. Like the depth charges splashes again...You need to look close to notice something wrong. In this case the absense of the transparence make it appears somekind of 2D sprites in close look. Well, hopes that you have understood me (my poor english) and thanks to look at this!

The important is that the mod is great and this texture matter is easy to correct.

As a quick question/suggestion: why you used a new "smoke" with problems in the wind direction if the SH3 one was ok on this matter? :hmm:

Anyhow I will let you know any other find that i shall observe using the mod, ok?

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by Racerboy

EDIT:

I compared all my TGAs to the stock ones and there are some differences. Some of my new TGAs include Alpha channels whereas the same stock one doesn't. Also some have different alpha channels for the same TGA. The ones that are different (either have an Alpha now or Alpha is different) are:

- black
- Fire_add
- int_halo
- pierreE
- pierreE2
- pierreE_test
- splash_vert_conic
- whoopsmal_add_02
- whoopsmal_add_03
- explosion
- explosion_halo_add
- CB
- bucata

And all that I'm saying could be ok if it´s intentional. Perhaps you have some motives to make this or that texture without transparence or even making it different in some way. If this is the case than what I should like to say (until now) is that the depth charges splashes were better before IMHO. This is my taste, I don´t know if others ppl also have the same opinion on this matter.
All we want is the best SH3 experience and this mod have the great potencial to raise the fun and imersion beyond the limits!

[TheDarkWraith]

I welcome all criticisms, suggestions, etc. I will run some test missions tomorrow with different TGAs for the depth charge textures and see what I find. Thanks for reporting this.

[Vader 1]

WOW...I just got the new addition up and running and I am in awe


Thank you ever so much for this great addition...from the flares to the explosions and don't get me started witht the hydrophone sounds. This again has taken this sim to a new level and from all the good feed back I am sure some more version are in the works.


Please do take some time for your self to sit back and enjoy your work sir as it is fantastic.

Vader

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Vader 1

Please do take some time for your self to sit back and enjoy your work sir as it is fantastic.
Vader

I would like to sit down for once and actually play the game but I can't. I'm on a roll and have too many ideas that I have to try and make happen. Most, so far, are coming along quite nicely

[Wolfehunter]

I'll give you the bad news first.
I found some odd issues you might want to see.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/Error3.jpg
Too much blood if that what it is suppose to be?
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/Errors2.jpg
X marks the spot or its a field goal?
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/Errors1.jpg
The aft end of the bobbing boat hopped its way and set and intercept coarse to attack me. I collided and died. Trust me I was using the XXI and it was faster than me under water. I don't get it?:hmm:

It was the weirdest thing I ever seen. I though nothing of it at first when I hit the ship with FAT torpedos, but when it was hunting for me... Well I was shocked. Then dead.

Well it was fun

Now the good news.

Well I was trying to get to Bergen to see my custom work using Missioneditor to tweek Bergen by adding bouys and debris plus XXIII AI subs, VIID AI sub Some merchant ships Docked VIIC\41 and a Cruiser. But I never made it. However it was a busy patrol. Air assaults were insane.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/Funshot8.jpg
I left Lorient in late 44. I pasted 3 german destroyers to the open sea.
Next thing I know I see the sky loaded with planes.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/Funshot6.jpg
This destroyer starts firing its guns and it sounded incredible.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/Funshot7.jpg
I figure I'll help. 3 destroyers + One sub against 16 bombers.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/Funshot5.jpg
2 destroyer sunk and I took some major damage... I said ALARM dive dive.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/myboat1.jpg
I get away and I managed to take out one nice juicy bomber and three of those floating search bombers.
The deptcharges was very nice sound effects. Some of my crew had an accident.

Other than that Racerboy Its a great mod.

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

I'll give you the bad news first.
I found some odd issues you might want to see.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/Error3.jpg
Too much blood if that what it is suppose to be?

nope, it's a TGA problem - specifically the Alpha channel. I have made a new TGA for this and will be included in next update. It's not supposed to be blood, it's supposed to be the reflection of the flares on the water (gives me an idea though of something to make...:hmm: ). The more flares in the sky the more pronounced this bug.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/Errors2.jpg
X marks the spot or its a field goal?

this is a known bug that was in the included txt file. In order to get the smoke to react to the induced wind of the ship's movement I had to remove a certain controller. This certain controller was responsible for the smoke that always went straight up no matter what. I see this as a valid compromise.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/Errors1.jpg
The aft end of the bobbing boat hopped its way and set and intercept coarse to attack me. I collided and died. Trust me I was using the XXI and it was faster than me under water. I don't get it?:hmm:

now that's something I have no control of. That's an issue with the ship itself.

It was the weirdest thing I ever seen. I though nothing of it at first when I hit the ship with FAT torpedos, but when it was hunting for me... Well I was shocked. Then dead.

Well it was funThe deptcharges was very nice sound effects. Some of my crew had an accident.

Other than that Racerboy Its a great mod.

see above in yellow