[REL] Trigger Maru Overhauled - Page 99

I'm goin' down · 10-28-09, 11:10 PM

my last mission I could see the red rings, but it was still too dark to see any ships unless they shined their search lights in my direction. The green fix might help.

Ducimus · 10-29-09, 03:46 PM

So go D/L the latest beta patchs and try it out.

Official release of the next version of TMO (probably ver number 1.9 when it really is done) is going to be awhile longer since ive taken to rewriting the campaign from scratch. I'm kinda excited to see how it will turn out. I think it's going to be the icing on the cake.

As an aside, when i am done with this campaign rewrite, expect to see some much larger convoys' the previous (a few with as many as 25 ships, which after some research, did happen), with a lot more escorts then before. Thats one reason i reduced the JP hydrophone range in latest patch.

I'm goin' down · 10-29-09, 06:27 PM

At his hospital bed at Midway, where he awakened after losing consiousness, he softly whispered, "There are going to be more escorts! No!"

lurker_hlb3 · 10-29-09, 07:25 PM

Operation Monsun is no longer compatible with TMO. Do not under any circumstances load OM on top to TMO v18, if you do so you will “break” Ducimus hard work

Ducimus · 10-29-09, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Operation Monsun is no longer compatible with TMO. Do not under any circumstances load OM on top to TMO v18, if you do so you will “break” Ducimus hard work

Out of curiosity, what in the 1.8 beta broke OM?

On a side note to all, the current "Official" version of TMO is 1.7. So whatever version of OM published for it, should continue to work. Im guessing issues arise when you load the TMO beta update.

Speaking of which, version 1.8 is currently a rather public beta. it is not official yet because file changes may occur rapidly at any point in time, and it's not done yet. When it is done, it will not be published as 1.8, but a different version number since many changes have occured since the original release of the beta.

lurker_hlb3 · 10-29-09, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Out of curiosity, what in the 1.8 beta broke OM?

On a side note to all, the current "Official" version of TMO is 1.7. So whatever version of OM published for it, should continue to work. Im guessing issues arise when you load the TMO beta update.

Speaking of which, version 1.8 is currently a rather public beta. it is not official yet because file changes may occur rapidly at any point in time, and it's not done yet. When it is done, it will not be published as 1.8, but a different version number since many changes have occured since the original release of the beta.

It's not TMO that "breaks OM" but the other way around. There just to many difference in the various .cfg files in the CFG directory between TMO / OM and it breaks your AI changes and with the AI_Sensors ( both radar sonar and visual ). I feel it is a dis-serves to TMO users to break your work.

I'm goin' down · 10-30-09, 01:15 AM

Two sampans guarded by 10 destroyers.

linerkiller · 10-30-09, 02:16 AM

OM is a nice addition to TMO since with a 5 minutes work you can flood the Jap roster with nice MFM merchants that shows up (and sinks) very nicely

. Sadly enough, the jap menu of stock freighters/tankers is not very long.

I have played TMO with OM v 705/715 fo nearly a week...nothing strange happened so far...No CTDs

@Duci:
The MFM units are really cool You might include some (the ones with no neutrality markings,Esso funnels etc.) in a TMO patch.
20+ freighters are not a very bad thing!

Cheers!

Wilcke · 10-30-09, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linerkiller

OM is a nice addition to TMO since with a 5 minutes work you can flood the Jap roster with nice MFM merchants that shows up (and sinks) very nicely

. Sadly enough, the jap menu of stock freighters/tankers is not very long.

I have played TMO with OM v 705/715 fo nearly a week...nothing strange happened so far...No CTDs

@Duci:
The MFM units are really cool You might include some (the ones with no neutrality markings,Esso funnels etc.) in a TMO patch.
20+ freighters are not a very bad thing!

Cheers!

NOTE TO SELF, I need to delve into the extensive Documentation of the latest version of RSRDC for TMO released on 10-28-2009 to see if the new merchants were added.

Ducimus · 10-30-09, 10:55 AM

What are MFM Units?

linerkiller · 10-30-09, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

What are MFM Units?

MFM stands for Merchant Fleet Mod, a nice work released for sh3 and then converted to work with sh4.
Basically, it add something like 50 new merchant ships to the game.
this is the sh3 thread:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=142285

Not bad eh?

I'm goin' down · 10-30-09, 06:05 PM

It was so dark that I couldn't see my hand in front of my face. I could not get a fix on the targets, and my torpedoes all missed. I found them with my deck gun though, and sank them. I sailed back to port, all smiles. I concluded the mission. Then I saw it. I was tossed in the brig for sinking two allied ships. I was firing my deck gun and missed the messages that said, "Whose side are you on anyway?" I never made it to the Officer's Club for a celebratory beer.

gdc3man · 10-31-09, 05:40 AM

Hello, Fellow Captains

It has been a while since I posted, I have seen and read concerns on Compatibility issues between Ops Monsun and TMO 1.8b, I have been a huge fan of both for a long time, and using one without the other is like a duck without a pond.....

please make them stay compatible with each other.....

there both fantastic mods

OK....I have said my peace....

now for the reality.....

I have been using TMO 1.8beta with Ops Monsun 715 and RSRD 411 for months with alot of other mods as well....and have had no issues, I am an advanced user of TMO and the following mods......this is my current load order, and is functioning very well.....

the point I am trying to make is have fun with it.....experiment, if it breaks a few simple things then so be it, war is not predictable,war on the ocean was certainly not.....and I like that unpridictability, every time I go to sea, I never know how a ship will sink, or how detection will work with the AI but there in lies the suspence of being a WW2 submariner.....

I am downloading the updated versions of RSRD and OPS MONSUN and will test functionality with the below setup......will see what happens !!

and let you know.....Thanks to Ducimus and Lurker for there great mods.....

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_180_Beta_Special
RSRDC_TMOv170_V411_Patched to 2.0
OpsMonsun_V705_Upgraded to 715A
SCAF1.5_RSRDCv410_TMO_163_Special
OPCFv1.2_green_SCAFfor1.5
DRB JAP US GB Airbases VS4 desaturated
TMO_Stern_DeckGuns
TMO_Deckguns_M32_paint
UBM Mission Pack
UBM Mission Pack No Type 18 Update
(1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 (Hi-res)
(2) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Enlisted Ranks add-on (Hi-res)
(3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on (Hi-res)
Poul-Sound for Trigger Maru Overhaul_163
AHEAD 2-3 by Payoff
Silent Hunter Speech 2.54
SI INTERIOR Kit
GirlInEveryPort_for_TMO_170
AI_Sen_Toku_Jap Subs
MadMaxs_New_Auxsubchaser
REL_Bungo_pete
#1 Real Environment Mod Install
#2 Other Clouds
Sky_Environment_Opt1
#3 Submarines Splash Sound
#4 Ships_Reflect and Caustic_Environment 5.1
#5 Warships Retextured
#6 Depthcharge Sound
#7 Optional Loading Screen
#8 ROW PE3 Install Sun Flair for Camera
#9 Kosh_Umark For TMO_170
Aircraft_reflections
Different_Smoke for TMO_170
Webster's Better Air Patrols
Webster's Better Subs for v1.5
Webster's Better Waterline Colors for v1.5
Webster's Faster TC Near Land for v1.5
Webster's Improved GE Torpedo v2
Webster's Improved US Torpedo v1
Webster's Real Lifeboats Fix for v1.5
Webster's Ship Draft Fix
Webster's Ship Manuvering Fix
Webster's Smaller Rain for R E
Webster's Upgraded Deck Gun v2
Webster's_Better Exterior Camera View
NSM4_Classic for TMO_170
NSM4 Realistic Torpedo Malfunctions for TMO_170
Trigger Maru_180 Beta_Special Effects_4.00
Special_Modifications Folder for TMO_v180 Beta
Reflections_On_the_Water Camera vs_1A
Ship pack 1
merchant skinpack release
SH4 Authentic Flags Mod

lurker_hlb3 · 10-31-09, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdc3man

Hello, Fellow Captains

It has been a while since I posted, I have seen and read concerns on Compatibility issues between Ops Monsun and TMO 1.8b, I have been a huge fan of both for a long time, and using one without the other is like a duck without a pond.....

please make them stay compatible with each other.....

there both fantastic mods

OK....I have said my peace....

now for the reality.....

I have been using TMO 1.8beta with Ops Monsun 715 and RSRD 411 for months with alot of other mods as well....and have had no issues, I am an advanced user of TMO and the following mods......this is my current load order, and is functioning very well.....

the point I am trying to make is have fun with it.....experiment, if it breaks a few simple things then so be it, war is not predictable,war on the ocean was certainly not.....and I like that unpridictability, every time I go to sea, I never know how a ship will sink, or how detection will work with the AI but there in lies the suspence of being a WW2 submariner.....

I am downloading the updated versions of RSRD and OPS MONSUN and will test functionality with the below setup......will see what happens !!

and let you know.....Thanks to Ducimus and Lurker for there great mods.....

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_180_Beta_Special
RSRDC_TMOv170_V411_Patched to 2.0
OpsMonsun_V705_Upgraded to 715A
SCAF1.5_RSRDCv410_TMO_163_Special
OPCFv1.2_green_SCAFfor1.5
DRB JAP US GB Airbases VS4 desaturated
TMO_Stern_DeckGuns
TMO_Deckguns_M32_paint
UBM Mission Pack
UBM Mission Pack No Type 18 Update
(1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 (Hi-res)
(2) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Enlisted Ranks add-on (Hi-res)
(3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on (Hi-res)
Poul-Sound for Trigger Maru Overhaul_163
AHEAD 2-3 by Payoff
Silent Hunter Speech 2.54
SI INTERIOR Kit
GirlInEveryPort_for_TMO_170
AI_Sen_Toku_Jap Subs
MadMaxs_New_Auxsubchaser
REL_Bungo_pete
#1 Real Environment Mod Install
#2 Other Clouds
Sky_Environment_Opt1
#3 Submarines Splash Sound
#4 Ships_Reflect and Caustic_Environment 5.1
#5 Warships Retextured
#6 Depthcharge Sound
#7 Optional Loading Screen
#8 ROW PE3 Install Sun Flair for Camera
#9 Kosh_Umark For TMO_170
Aircraft_reflections
Different_Smoke for TMO_170
Webster's Better Air Patrols
Webster's Better Subs for v1.5
Webster's Better Waterline Colors for v1.5
Webster's Faster TC Near Land for v1.5
Webster's Improved GE Torpedo v2
Webster's Improved US Torpedo v1
Webster's Real Lifeboats Fix for v1.5
Webster's Ship Draft Fix
Webster's Ship Manuvering Fix
Webster's Smaller Rain for R E
Webster's Upgraded Deck Gun v2
Webster's_Better Exterior Camera View
NSM4_Classic for TMO_170
NSM4 Realistic Torpedo Malfunctions for TMO_170
Trigger Maru_180 Beta_Special Effects_4.00
Special_Modifications Folder for TMO_v180 Beta
Reflections_On_the_Water Camera vs_1A
Ship pack 1
merchant skinpack release
SH4 Authentic Flags Mod

from the readme of OM / RSRDC

Quote:

WARNING

I do not look at “very possible” mod that is out there. If you load a mod up, after RSRDC or OM and JSGME generates a “conflict” warning and you go ahead and loaded it anyway and RSRDC / OM no longer works correctly, “It is NOT my problem”, so don’t ask me to fix it, because I won’t.

WARNING

Install instructions:

-----------------------------------------------------------

If your are currently on patrol, you will need to be in port to install

“WARNING”

DO NOT install PE4 2x Special Effects with OM, it will break the “ship damage model”
DO NOT install Natural Sinking Mechanics with OM.; it will break the “ship damage model”

10-31-09, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdc3man

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_180_Beta_Special
RSRDC_TMOv170_V411_Patched to 2.0
OpsMonsun_V705_Upgraded to 715A
SCAF1.5_RSRDCv410_TMO_163_Special
OPCFv1.2_green_SCAFfor1.5
DRB JAP US GB Airbases VS4 desaturated
TMO_Stern_DeckGuns
TMO_Deckguns_M32_paint
UBM Mission Pack
UBM Mission Pack No Type 18 Update
(1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 (Hi-res)
(2) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Enlisted Ranks add-on (Hi-res)
(3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on (Hi-res)
Poul-Sound for Trigger Maru Overhaul_163
AHEAD 2-3 by Payoff
Silent Hunter Speech 2.54
SI INTERIOR Kit
GirlInEveryPort_for_TMO_170
AI_Sen_Toku_Jap Subs
MadMaxs_New_Auxsubchaser
REL_Bungo_pete
#1 Real Environment Mod Install
#2 Other Clouds
Sky_Environment_Opt1
#3 Submarines Splash Sound
#4 Ships_Reflect and Caustic_Environment 5.1
#5 Warships Retextured
#6 Depthcharge Sound
#7 Optional Loading Screen
#8 ROW PE3 Install Sun Flair for Camera
#9 Kosh_Umark For TMO_170
Aircraft_reflections
Different_Smoke for TMO_170
Webster's Better Air Patrols
Webster's Better Subs for v1.5
Webster's Better Waterline Colors for v1.5
Webster's Faster TC Near Land for v1.5
Webster's Improved GE Torpedo v2
Webster's Improved US Torpedo v1
Webster's Real Lifeboats Fix for v1.5
Webster's Ship Draft Fix
Webster's Ship Manuvering Fix
Webster's Smaller Rain for R E
Webster's Upgraded Deck Gun v2
Webster's_Better Exterior Camera View
NSM4_Classic for TMO_170
NSM4 Realistic Torpedo Malfunctions for TMO_170
Trigger Maru_180 Beta_Special Effects_4.00
Special_Modifications Folder for TMO_v180 Beta
Reflections_On_the_Water Camera vs_1A
Ship pack 1
merchant skinpack release
SH4 Authentic Flags Mod

mod much, lol?

10-28-09, 11:10 PM	#1471
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	great my last mission I could see the red rings, but it was still too dark to see any ships unless they shined their search lights in my direction. The green fix might help.

10-29-09, 06:27 PM	#1473
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	ut oh At his hospital bed at Midway, where he awakened after losing consiousness, he softly whispered, "There are going to be more escorts! No!"

10-29-09, 07:25 PM	#1474
lurker_hlb3 Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Calif Posts: 2,290 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 12	[TEC] A Special note to all user of TMO Operation Monsun is no longer compatible with TMO. Do not under any circumstances load OM on top to TMO v18, if you do so you will “break” Ducimus hard work

10-30-09, 01:15 AM	#1477
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	my worst nightmare Two sampans guarded by 10 destroyers.

10-30-09, 02:16 AM	#1478
linerkiller Captain Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Modena,Italy Posts: 486 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	OM is a nice addition to TMO since with a 5 minutes work you can flood the Jap roster with nice MFM merchants that shows up (and sinks) very nicely. Sadly enough, the jap menu of stock freighters/tankers is not very long. I have played TMO with OM v 705/715 fo nearly a week...nothing strange happened so far...No CTDs @Duci: The MFM units are really cool You might include some (the ones with no neutrality markings,Esso funnels etc.) in a TMO patch. 20+ freighters are not a very bad thing! Cheers! __________________ "A hard drill makes an easy battle" Alexander V. Suvorov "When we realized that our clubbing and kickings were being administered by the burned, mutilated survivors of our handiwork, we found we could take it with less prejudice." Captain Richard "Dick" O'Kane-USS Tang http://www.youtube.com/user/willembrock

10-29-09, 03:46 PM	#1472
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	So go D/L the latest beta patchs and try it out. Official release of the next version of TMO (probably ver number 1.9 when it really is done) is going to be awhile longer since ive taken to rewriting the campaign from scratch. I'm kinda excited to see how it will turn out. I think it's going to be the icing on the cake. As an aside, when i am done with this campaign rewrite, expect to see some much larger convoys' the previous (a few with as many as 25 ships, which after some research, did happen), with a lot more escorts then before. Thats one reason i reduced the JP hydrophone range in latest patch.

10-30-09, 10:55 AM	#1480
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	What are MFM Units?

10-30-09, 06:05 PM	#1482
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	a first for me It was so dark that I couldn't see my hand in front of my face. I could not get a fix on the targets, and my torpedoes all missed. I found them with my deck gun though, and sank them. I sailed back to port, all smiles. I concluded the mission. Then I saw it. I was tossed in the brig for sinking two allied ships. I was firing my deck gun and missed the messages that said, "Whose side are you on anyway?" I never made it to the Officer's Club for a celebratory beer.

10-31-09, 05:40 AM	#1483
gdc3man Bosun Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 63 Downloads: 335 Uploads: 2	Trigger Maru 1.8b and Ops Monsun Compatibility Hello, Fellow Captains It has been a while since I posted, I have seen and read concerns on Compatibility issues between Ops Monsun and TMO 1.8b, I have been a huge fan of both for a long time, and using one without the other is like a duck without a pond..... please make them stay compatible with each other..... there both fantastic modsOK....I have said my peace....now for the reality..... I have been using TMO 1.8beta with Ops Monsun 715 and RSRD 411 for months with alot of other mods as well....and have had no issues, I am an advanced user of TMO and the following mods......this is my current load order, and is functioning very well..... the point I am trying to make is have fun with it.....experiment, if it breaks a few simple things then so be it, war is not predictable,war on the ocean was certainly not.....and I like that unpridictability, every time I go to sea, I never know how a ship will sink, or how detection will work with the AI but there in lies the suspence of being a WW2 submariner..... I am downloading the updated versions of RSRD and OPS MONSUN and will test functionality with the below setup......will see what happens !! and let you know.....Thanks to Ducimus and Lurker for there great mods..... TriggerMaru_Overhaul_180_Beta_Special RSRDC_TMOv170_V411_Patched to 2.0 OpsMonsun_V705_Upgraded to 715A SCAF1.5_RSRDCv410_TMO_163_Special OPCFv1.2_green_SCAFfor1.5 DRB JAP US GB Airbases VS4 desaturated TMO_Stern_DeckGuns TMO_Deckguns_M32_paint UBM Mission Pack UBM Mission Pack No Type 18 Update (1) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 (Hi-res) (2) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Enlisted Ranks add-on (Hi-res) (3) RUIM v1.0 for SH4v1.5 Awards add-on (Hi-res) Poul-Sound for Trigger Maru Overhaul_163 AHEAD 2-3 by Payoff Silent Hunter Speech 2.54 SI INTERIOR Kit GirlInEveryPort_for_TMO_170 AI_Sen_Toku_Jap Subs MadMaxs_New_Auxsubchaser REL_Bungo_pete #1 Real Environment Mod Install #2 Other Clouds Sky_Environment_Opt1 #3 Submarines Splash Sound #4 Ships_Reflect and Caustic_Environment 5.1 #5 Warships Retextured #6 Depthcharge Sound #7 Optional Loading Screen #8 ROW PE3 Install Sun Flair for Camera #9 Kosh_Umark For TMO_170 Aircraft_reflections Different_Smoke for TMO_170 Webster's Better Air Patrols Webster's Better Subs for v1.5 Webster's Better Waterline Colors for v1.5 Webster's Faster TC Near Land for v1.5 Webster's Improved GE Torpedo v2 Webster's Improved US Torpedo v1 Webster's Real Lifeboats Fix for v1.5 Webster's Ship Draft Fix Webster's Ship Manuvering Fix Webster's Smaller Rain for R E Webster's Upgraded Deck Gun v2 Webster's_Better Exterior Camera View NSM4_Classic for TMO_170 NSM4 Realistic Torpedo Malfunctions for TMO_170 Trigger Maru_180 Beta_Special Effects_4.00 Special_Modifications Folder for TMO_v180 Beta Reflections_On_the_Water Camera vs_1A Ship pack 1 merchant skinpack release SH4 Authentic Flags Mod