US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 309

Mr Quatro · 04-30-18, 03:54 PM

I have entertained the thought that general Kelly will run for POTUS ... this confirms my thoughts

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...-trump-n868961

Quote:

WASHINGTON — White House chief of staff John Kelly has eroded morale in the West Wing in recent months with comments to aides that include insulting the president's intelligence and casting himself as the savior of the country, according to eight current and former White House officials.

The officials said Kelly portrays himself to Trump administration aides as the lone bulwark against catastrophe, curbing the erratic urges of a president who has a questionable grasp on policy issues and the functions of government. He has referred to Trump as "an idiot" multiple times to underscore his point, according to four officials who say they've witnessed the comments.

vienna · 04-30-18, 04:28 PM

So, when Kelly gets fired, it will be for telling the truth?...

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Delgard · 04-30-18, 05:48 PM

Repeated use of the word "officials" is not a valid source. It is just writing to inflame and cause drama.

vienna · 04-30-18, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delgard

Repeated use of the word "officials" is not a valid source. It is just writing to inflame and cause drama.

You mean just like Fox News, Breitbart, Infowars, etc.?...

...and Trump Tweets?...

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August · 04-30-18, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delgard

Repeated use of the word "officials" is not a valid source. It is just writing to inflame and cause drama.

Delgard · 04-30-18, 06:24 PM

Why is this an inflaming subject? Just set the standard about sources. I am not here to call out any other news presenter, agency, or publication.

I just responded to the article posted.

I am watchful in real life. There are manipulators in the news broadcast system. Some political, and some just to divide.

Mr Quatro · 04-30-18, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delgard

Why is this an inflaming subject? Just set the standard about sources. I am not here to call out any other news presenter, agency, or publication.

I just responded to the article posted.

I am watchful in real life. There are manipulators in the news broadcast system. Some political, and some just to divide.

I acted too quick Delgard ... I apologize to all of you. Yes it was a back stabbing report from a known enemy of Trump NBC. In fact even in that article of NBC it says they can't find a staff member that has heard Kelly talk bad about Trump yet they had a head line that he did trash talk Trump.

CBS gets into the act with a follow up that is completely different ...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chief-o...-idiot-report/

Quote:

WASHINGTON -- White House chief of staff John Kelly said Monday that a report that he called President Trump an idiot is "total BS." Kelly, in a statement, said he and Mr. Trump have "an incredibly candid and strong relationship."

He added, "He always knows where I stand and he and I both know this story is total BS."

Report: Comey book says John Kelly referred to Trump as "dishonorable"
NBC News reported Monday that Kelly has on multiple occasions criticized Mr. Trump's knowledge on issues like immigration, and has cast himself as a protecting the country from Mr. Trump's impulses. The report added that Mr. Trump was growing tired of Kelly's attitude.

Starting to look like you can't even trust main line media anymore ... I'm going to wait three (3) days from now on to get the true story

Rockstar · 04-30-18, 08:20 PM

It amazes me some people are just now figuring this out.

Delgard · 04-30-18, 08:29 PM

Professionally, I am very mindful of biasness. It really becomes noticeable when their are drivers doing it.

Someone on Fox this past weekend thanked peoples in Fox management for helping them focus their career. I thought about the individual and their role as part of the Fox team. All the "characters" I could think of had slightly different intent for the network. Why? The Network has someone to report on any situation, event, and in a certain way that Fox management wants.

All the networks do the same. Or they get someone to guest and they let them project a certain message.

The major U.S. news sites are really inflamatory or they are creating drama for an agenda. They all have an agenda, whether political, of social.

I am just careful and if it makes it into the US Politics Thread, I try to validate it for whatever it is. "Officials" is bad. I saw on several other news sites that Kelly and the Pres are now having to counter it.

That particular article smacked of creating drama towards manipulation of Oval Office relationships.

I felt no offense. Disapointment with the media, maybe. There are some good news sites.

Bilge_Rat · 05-01-18, 08:15 AM

U.S. media political reporting in general is incredibly biased these days, every site is either pro-Trump or anti-Trump, there is no middle of the road objective source. All you can do is read pro-Trump and anti-Trump sites and try to figure out the true story for yourself...which is usually somewhere in the middle.

Rockstar · 05-01-18, 09:16 AM

A long time ago I suggested the reason this is so is without viewers they have no income. They tailor their program in such a way that basically tells people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. It keeps the herd tuned in and the cash flowing.

Never mind grown-up discussion about the economy or foreign affairs. If you want to stay in business you need create a story with innuendo, allusion, suggestion and accusations that's what captivates viewers these days.

Platapus · 05-01-18, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar

It amazes me some people are just now figuring this out.

What? That Trump is an Idiot?

Lots of people already knew that.

vienna · 05-01-18, 03:24 PM

Only the other idiots don't seem to have sussed it out yet...

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u crank · 05-01-18, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

What? That Trump is an Idiot?

Lots of people already knew that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vienna

Only the other idiots don't seem to have sussed it out yet...

August · 05-01-18, 05:48 PM

It must be so frustrating. How ever will you stand the next 7 years?

04-30-18, 04:28 PM	#4622
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04-30-18, 08:20 PM	#4628
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,833 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It amazes me some people are just now figuring this out. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

05-01-18, 08:15 AM	#4630
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	U.S. media political reporting in general is incredibly biased these days, every site is either pro-Trump or anti-Trump, there is no middle of the road objective source. All you can do is read pro-Trump and anti-Trump sites and try to figure out the true story for yourself...which is usually somewhere in the middle. __________________

05-01-18, 09:16 AM	#4631
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,833 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	A long time ago I suggested the reason this is so is without viewers they have no income. They tailor their program in such a way that basically tells people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. It keeps the herd tuned in and the cash flowing. Never mind grown-up discussion about the economy or foreign affairs. If you want to stay in business you need create a story with innuendo, allusion, suggestion and accusations that's what captivates viewers these days. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

05-01-18, 03:24 PM	#4633
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,506 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Only the other idiots don't seem to have sussed it out yet... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

04-30-18, 05:48 PM	#4623
Delgard Skipper Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AZ & DC Posts: 487 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Repeated use of the word "officials" is not a valid source. It is just writing to inflame and cause drama.

04-30-18, 06:24 PM	#4626
Delgard Skipper Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AZ & DC Posts: 487 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Why is this an inflaming subject? Just set the standard about sources. I am not here to call out any other news presenter, agency, or publication. I just responded to the article posted. I am watchful in real life. There are manipulators in the news broadcast system. Some political, and some just to divide.

04-30-18, 08:29 PM	#4629
Delgard Skipper Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AZ & DC Posts: 487 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Professionally, I am very mindful of biasness. It really becomes noticeable when their are drivers doing it. Someone on Fox this past weekend thanked peoples in Fox management for helping them focus their career. I thought about the individual and their role as part of the Fox team. All the "characters" I could think of had slightly different intent for the network. Why? The Network has someone to report on any situation, event, and in a certain way that Fox management wants. All the networks do the same. Or they get someone to guest and they let them project a certain message. The major U.S. news sites are really inflamatory or they are creating drama for an agenda. They all have an agenda, whether political, of social. I am just careful and if it makes it into the US Politics Thread, I try to validate it for whatever it is. "Officials" is bad. I saw on several other news sites that Kelly and the Pres are now having to counter it. That particular article smacked of creating drama towards manipulation of Oval Office relationships. I felt no offense. Disapointment with the media, maybe. There are some good news sites.

05-01-18, 05:48 PM	#4635
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,667 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It must be so frustrating. How ever will you stand the next 7 years? __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.