Help with OM

DMW · 03-25-10, 12:58 PM

Hi

After a disappointment with SH5 I thought id boot up my old SH4 which I still had installed but not played for a long time.

Wanting something like GWX but for SH4 I turned to Operation Monsun,
pretty much blindly following a post from:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164827

this is my JGME setup:
[SH4+uboat V1.5]

I want a GWX experience, as i say, but ironically using SH4, so i boot up on 100% realism, and start a DID campaign.

problem is as shown above the target mission on the notepad and Icon don't match up, is this caused by an error with my mods? - also there is the german and American grid-lines displayed ontop of each other on the map, is there a way to stop this?

Also does anyone know of anything like SH3 commander, which will set my crew experience to something more 'realistic', as well as enabling random crew departure and sabotage?

Thanks, if anyone else can recommend compatible MODs aswell then that would be great.

Sailor Steve · 03-25-10, 02:06 PM

WELCOME ABOARD!

At first glance I would have said you should load Op Monsun and it's patches first, but none of that would affect the 'problems' you're having.

Op Monsun adds a brilliant campaign and combat experience, but no SH4 mods that I've seen give the 'extras', the sights and sounds that come with the major SH3 supermods. It's the best mod for SH4 in the Atlantic, and what it does give is great.

As for the location star being in a different place from the grid given, I'm afraid that's an SH4 problem that hasn't yet been resolved. Go to where the star is, and stay in that vicinity the required time. When it turns grey, radio in. You'll get a new location. After one or two times of that you'll be ordered to patrol where you think the enemy is, so you're on your own.

SH4 comes with latitude and longitude coordinates. UBM (1.5) adds the KM grids, right down to the 4-digit locations. I don't know of any way to get rid of one or the other when playing German, but I haven't asked before because I like having both.

And no, there is nothing like Commander for SH4, which drives me crazy because I like having all those different crew names and I'm the guy who keeps adding more historically correct ships to Commander.

Anyway, SH4 with OM takes a little getting used to, but it is still a wonderful experience.

ShadowWolf Kell · 03-25-10, 03:05 PM

Yes, load OM and it's patches first, then OMEGU.

That Silohuette and Rec manual mod HAS to be loaded after OMEGU since it does a lot of changes that OMEGU also changes. I'm not sure if it's OMEGU v300 complatible though.

I think it's still the same version for when OMEGU V210 was being used. I have it, but haven't been using it.

Also, with the two sound mods you have loaded, I don't see the point of using the OM_English optional since that gives your crew English speech, not German. The sound mods apply to German speech.

One thing you might look into is Cengois Enemies of Germany mod. Not only does it include the flag fixes, but also adds a page to your F1 help screen displaying Germany's status on neutrality/at war dates for each country.

lurker_hlb3 · 03-25-10, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMW

Hi

After a disappointment with SH5 I thought id boot up my old SH4 which I still had installed but not played for a long time.

Wanting something like GWX but for SH4 I turned to Operation Monsun,
pretty much blindly following a post from:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164827

this is my JGME setup:
[SH4+uboat V1.5]

I want a GWX experience, as i say, but ironically using SH4, so i boot up on 100% realism, and start a DID campaign.

problem is as shown above the target mission on the notepad and Icon don't match up, is this caused by an error with my mods? - also there is the german and American grid-lines displayed ontop of each other on the map, is there a way to stop this?

Also does anyone know of anything like SH3 commander, which will set my crew experience to something more 'realistic', as well as enabling random crew departure and sabotage?

Thanks, if anyone else can recommend compatible MODs aswell then that would be great.

Please "de-install" the above "mod soup" and only install what is listed below.

For "ALL" other questions read this:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...13&postcount=1

and this

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...10&postcount=1

Read this:

Quote:

================================
Install instructions
Only install “in port”
Install with JSGME in the following order:

OPTION 1

If you wish to play Uboat operations

OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch2

If you wish to play Uboat operations “ONLY” and use OMEGU

OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch2
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch 5A

If you wish to play Uboat operations “ONLY” and use OMEGU plus optional OMEGU mods:

OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch2
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch 5A

------------------------------

Changes to “Environment”

WARNING
Install “ONLY” One at a time

OM_Med_Env (Mediterranean ops)

or

OM_Pac_Env (Indian Ocean ops)

Changes to Keyboard Commands

WARNING
Install “ONLY” One at a time

OM_MultiCmd_Keys

or

OM_SH3_Command_Keys

More difficult AI

WARNING
Install “ONLY” One at a time

OM_Harder_Escort_L1

or

OM_Harder_Escort_L2

Changes to languages

KiUB_English Mod
OMEGU_English Mod

================================

OPTION 2

Special Note:
If you install RSRD, it makes “NO” changes the OM campaign files

If you wish to play US Navy and Uboat operations

RSRDC v550
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch2

If you wish to play US Navy and Uboat operations and use OMEGU

RSRDC v550
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch2
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch 5A

If you wish to play US Navy and Uboat operations and use OMEGU plus optional OMEGU mods:

RSRDC v550
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch2
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch 5A

------------------------------

Changes to “Environment”

WARNING
Install “ONLY” One at a time

OM_Med_Env (Mediterranean ops)

or

OM_Pac_Env (Indian Ocean ops)

Changes to Keyboard Commands

WARNING
Install “ONLY” One at a time

OM_MultiCmd_Keys

or

OM_SH3_Command_Keys

More difficult AI

WARNING
Install “ONLY” One at a time

OM_Harder_Escort_L1

or

OM_Harder_Escort_L2

Changes to languages
KiUB_English Mod
OMEGU_English Mod

================================

DMW · 03-25-10, 06:22 PM

Thanks for the replys!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowWolf Kell

Yes, load OM and it's patches first, then OMEGU.

forgive me if im wrong, but isnt that what i have already done? The bottom most MODs overwrite the above mod's files, no?

Though i will have a re-shuffle of them later

edit

Quote:

One thing you might look into is Cengois Enemies of Germany mod.

Can you provide a link, ive tried search/google and cannot find it, sounds very useful!

03-25-10, 12:58 PM	#1
DMW Swabbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Help with OM Hi After a disappointment with SH5 I thought id boot up my old SH4 which I still had installed but not played for a long time. Wanting something like GWX but for SH4 I turned to Operation Monsun, pretty much blindly following a post from: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164827 this is my JGME setup: [SH4+uboat V1.5] I want a GWX experience, as i say, but ironically using SH4, so i boot up on 100% realism, and start a DID campaign. problem is as shown above the target mission on the notepad and Icon don't match up, is this caused by an error with my mods? - also there is the german and American grid-lines displayed ontop of each other on the map, is there a way to stop this? Also does anyone know of anything like SH3 commander, which will set my crew experience to something more 'realistic', as well as enabling random crew departure and sabotage? Thanks, if anyone else can recommend compatible MODs aswell then that would be great.

03-25-10, 02:06 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	WELCOME ABOARD! At first glance I would have said you should load Op Monsun and it's patches first, but none of that would affect the 'problems' you're having. Op Monsun adds a brilliant campaign and combat experience, but no SH4 mods that I've seen give the 'extras', the sights and sounds that come with the major SH3 supermods. It's the best mod for SH4 in the Atlantic, and what it does give is great. As for the location star being in a different place from the grid given, I'm afraid that's an SH4 problem that hasn't yet been resolved. Go to where the star is, and stay in that vicinity the required time. When it turns grey, radio in. You'll get a new location. After one or two times of that you'll be ordered to patrol where you think the enemy is, so you're on your own. SH4 comes with latitude and longitude coordinates. UBM (1.5) adds the KM grids, right down to the 4-digit locations. I don't know of any way to get rid of one or the other when playing German, but I haven't asked before because I like having both. And no, there is nothing like Commander for SH4, which drives me crazy because I like having all those different crew names and I'm the guy who keeps adding more historically correct ships to Commander. Anyway, SH4 with OM takes a little getting used to, but it is still a wonderful experience. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-25-10, 03:05 PM	#3
ShadowWolf Kell Medic Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 163 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Yes, load OM and it's patches first, then OMEGU. That Silohuette and Rec manual mod HAS to be loaded after OMEGU since it does a lot of changes that OMEGU also changes. I'm not sure if it's OMEGU v300 complatible though. I think it's still the same version for when OMEGU V210 was being used. I have it, but haven't been using it. Also, with the two sound mods you have loaded, I don't see the point of using the OM_English optional since that gives your crew English speech, not German. The sound mods apply to German speech. One thing you might look into is Cengois Enemies of Germany mod. Not only does it include the flag fixes, but also adds a page to your F1 help screen displaying Germany's status on neutrality/at war dates for each country.