SpaceX does it again!!! + Rolling out Starlink - Page 18

Catfish · 11-19-20, 03:18 AM

Our current private supply in the countryside is ~350 Mb/s download and 115 upload via glass fibre, while paying 35 Euros/month. This is the lowest tariff, you can get more if paying more. Up to now this is enough even for streaming and a lot of other traffic.

Speed currently possible up to 1000 Mb/s, for ~90 Euros.

Will check out Starlink

Prices may fall a bit, and wireless via satellite is a good idea..

Jimbuna · 11-19-20, 07:41 AM

Here in the UK this is as good as it gets (Virgin Media)

Onkel Neal · 11-19-20, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Our current private supply in the countryside is ~350 Mb/s download and 115 upload via glass fibre, while paying 35 Euros/month. This is the lowest tariff, you can get more if paying more. Up to now this is enough even for streaming and a lot of other traffic.

Speed currently possible up to 1000 Mb/s, for ~90 Euros.

Will check out Starlink

Prices may fall a bit, and wireless via satellite is a good idea..

You cannot get Starlink if you live in a city or town or area where high-speed service already exists. This is only for people who have no high-speed provider options.

The "countryside" in the US is often miles and miles away from any towns.

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Here in the UK this is as good as it gets (Virgin Media)

Yeah, same here. In Houston.

ikalugin · 11-19-20, 05:00 PM

Would be a cool option for the hunting launge.

Onkel Neal · 11-19-20, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Would be a cool option for the hunting launge.

Yes, hunting lodge? Yeah, that would be nice.

Onkel Neal · 12-07-20, 07:57 PM

SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states

Oh man, mixed emotions. Govt provides nearly a billion (like we have it to throw around, sigh) to SpaceX to propel awesome venture.

Rockstar · 12-07-20, 08:14 PM

I think I mentioned this before but I believe starlink is more than just a government subsidized internet connection so we can complain about global warming. If I were to guess it might be more along the lines of a massive satellite system that can take several hits and still have enough links left over to maintain study flow of C3I or to point a hypersonic missile to city of our choice.

I imagine Beijing and Moscow are on that list of cities. They're probably adding Berlin to it now as well

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...demonstration/

Mr Quatro · 12-07-20, 08:29 PM

Not that Starlink is evil, but of course it could be used for evil depending on the users in rural areas, but the spread of high speed internet reminds me of an evil dictator from România, Nicolae Ceausescu. Who had ordered all of the rural area residence citizens to move into the big cities where he could keep an eye on them against future rebellion.

Well as we all know it did not work and he was executed by his own countrymen 31 years ago this Christmas.

I doubt if China will allow it's rural areas to connect to Starlink

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50821546

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It was on Christmas Day 30 years ago that Romania's tyrannical communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu was executed by firing squad after a summary trial.

A bloody battle played out in Romania in December 1989 that led to the remarkable collapse of one of Europe's most repressive communist regimes - and arguably its most menacing dictator.

For the Romanians who challenged him, it was a moment that defined their lives.

"It was war, it was a war zone here," remembers Traian Rabagia, then a 19-year-old geology student.

Rockstar · 12-07-20, 09:17 PM

Well, government subsidies can range from tax credits to cash deposits. But it just dont happen because government likes handing out free money. They have a reason or interest to promote such things. One being of course 'evile' intentions however in the U.S. it was most likely done to promote business and reduce the initial costs for consumers.

Remember when those nylon folding chairs first hit the market? They were going for upwards of 70-80 bucks a pop. Now they're everywhere and you can get them at wallymart for 5 dollars.

Onkel Neal · 12-09-20, 07:27 PM

Starship prototype 8: So close!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1336810961630416898

Skybird · 12-10-20, 09:47 AM

Thats a Booom that I call worth its ticket money.

I admit I like Musk's attitude shown on this, he is reported to be enthusiastic, labelling it a success and saying that all expected data was collected and that Boooms like this are what test flights are for. He gave it just 30% chances before the launch that it would make it back in one piece.

Catfish · 12-10-20, 09:58 AM

This was despite the outcome a nice demonstration of what it is capable of

Ascending, shutting down one engine, then the second while the third ordered by the gimble to take central position and keep the craft upright and still stabilized, then controlled glide/fall, then vertical again for settling down - and then unfortunately not enough thrust.
Musk said that the fuel pressure in the main tank became too low in the final seconds, so less thrust.. without this it all worked. Respect and congratulations!

Skybird · 12-10-20, 11:10 AM

Wrong wiring of cables due to human error in one engine was listed as likely cause.

Did not know that he collects his parts from all over the world. The engines are made in the Ukraine.

Rockstar · 12-10-20, 11:49 AM

When you consider what it takes to land on Mars this thing is amazing. I was reading about the last Mars rover. Because of the nature of the martian atmosphere and gravity they had to design parachutes which could be deployed at supersonic speeds. But they still needed a substantial amount of energy from retro rockets to reduce the speed to achieve a successful soft landing. A lot of moving parts and a quite complicated procedure.

Its why SN8 belly flops into the atmosphere to slow descent then uses rockets to further reduce the speed for a soft landing. I hope I'm around to see it land on Mars. This thing will be awesome. Hell we're establishing a moon base in another 3-4 years thats going to be awesome.

Rockstar · 12-10-20, 06:39 PM

11-19-20, 03:18 AM	#256
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Our current private supply in the countryside is ~350 Mb/s download and 115 upload via glass fibre, while paying 35 Euros/month. This is the lowest tariff, you can get more if paying more. Up to now this is enough even for streaming and a lot of other traffic. Speed currently possible up to 1000 Mb/s, for ~90 Euros. Will check out Starlink Prices may fall a bit, and wireless via satellite is a good idea.. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-19-20, 07:41 AM	#257
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,284 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Here in the UK this is as good as it gets (Virgin Media) __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

11-19-20, 05:00 PM	#259
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Would be a cool option for the hunting launge. __________________ Grumpy as always.

12-07-20, 07:57 PM	#261
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	SpaceX gets $886 million from FCC to subsidize Starlink in 35 states Oh man, mixed emotions. Govt provides nearly a billion (like we have it to throw around, sigh) to SpaceX to propel awesome venture. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

12-07-20, 08:14 PM	#262
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,848 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I think I mentioned this before but I believe starlink is more than just a government subsidized internet connection so we can complain about global warming. If I were to guess it might be more along the lines of a massive satellite system that can take several hits and still have enough links left over to maintain study flow of C3I or to point a hypersonic missile to city of our choice. I imagine Beijing and Moscow are on that list of cities. They're probably adding Berlin to it now as well https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...demonstration/ __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

12-07-20, 09:17 PM	#264
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,848 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well, government subsidies can range from tax credits to cash deposits. But it just dont happen because government likes handing out free money. They have a reason or interest to promote such things. One being of course 'evile' intentions however in the U.S. it was most likely done to promote business and reduce the initial costs for consumers. Remember when those nylon folding chairs first hit the market? They were going for upwards of 70-80 bucks a pop. Now they're everywhere and you can get them at wallymart for 5 dollars. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

12-09-20, 07:27 PM	#265
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,289 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Starship prototype 8: So close! https://twitter.com/i/status/1336810961630416898 __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

12-10-20, 09:47 AM	#266
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,516 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Thats a Booom that I call worth its ticket money. I admit I like Musk's attitude shown on this, he is reported to be enthusiastic, labelling it a success and saying that all expected data was collected and that Boooms like this are what test flights are for. He gave it just 30% chances before the launch that it would make it back in one piece. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-10-20, 09:58 AM	#267
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	This was despite the outcome a nice demonstration of what it is capable of Ascending, shutting down one engine, then the second while the third ordered by the gimble to take central position and keep the craft upright and still stabilized, then controlled glide/fall, then vertical again for settling down - and then unfortunately not enough thrust. Musk said that the fuel pressure in the main tank became too low in the final seconds, so less thrust.. without this it all worked. Respect and congratulations! __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-10-20, 11:10 AM	#268
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,516 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Wrong wiring of cables due to human error in one engine was listed as likely cause. Did not know that he collects his parts from all over the world. The engines are made in the Ukraine. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-10-20, 11:49 AM	#269
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,848 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	When you consider what it takes to land on Mars this thing is amazing. I was reading about the last Mars rover. Because of the nature of the martian atmosphere and gravity they had to design parachutes which could be deployed at supersonic speeds. But they still needed a substantial amount of energy from retro rockets to reduce the speed to achieve a successful soft landing. A lot of moving parts and a quite complicated procedure. Its why SN8 belly flops into the atmosphere to slow descent then uses rockets to further reduce the speed for a soft landing. I hope I'm around to see it land on Mars. This thing will be awesome. Hell we're establishing a moon base in another 3-4 years thats going to be awesome. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

12-10-20, 06:39 PM	#270
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,848 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	__________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.