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10-31-19, 06:49 AM | #61 | |
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11-07-19, 07:21 AM | #62 | |
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11-08-19, 09:46 PM | #63 |
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So, the intent for Categories 2, 3 and 4 is to ensure that patients in these categories who require transportation receive a conveying resource in a timeframe that is appropriate to their clinical needs. Therefore, if a patient requires transportation in an emergency, the clock will only stop when the conveying resource arrives.
Id suggest that somebody screwed up the onscene assement of Harry Dunn clinical needs If an ambulance arrived sooner maybe Harry Dunn would still be alive? sounds like a typical government run operation. If I was in Ms. Soocalas shoes I probably would fled the country too instead of getting caught up in this debacle as a scapegoat.
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11-09-19, 08:33 AM | #64 | |
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But she is far more than a scapegoat. She was the one who caused the accident.
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11-09-19, 01:54 PM | #65 |
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I understand that, accidents happen, even deadly ones and indeed I feel for the family and their loss. But because they are considered accidents the living that I know of are not prosecuted or go to jail. I suspect being involved in an accident in a foreign land isn't a great place to be in. Nobody gives a crap about the truth, as this topic shows argument shifts gear directly into politics, flags and borders. I know I wouldn't want to be the center of attention in a political tit for tat dispute in foreign land. Id want get the hell out of dodge as soon as possible before the the lynch mob showed up.
It's now becoming apparent there may have been other contributing factors to this young mans death. The idea that someones on scene medical assessment determines an ambulance response time is ludicrous. I have gone on many calls and it was balls to the wall every time.
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12-21-19, 07:46 AM | #66 |
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A US woman will be charged with causing the death of teenage motorcyclist Harry Dunn by dangerous driving.
Mr Dunn, 19, died in a road crash in Northamptonshire in August that led to suspect Anne Sacoolas leaving for the US under diplomatic immunity. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said it had started extradition proceedings through the Home Office. US officials said it was not "a helpful development" and Mrs Sacoolas' lawyer said she would not return to the UK. Lawyer Amy Jefress said: "Anne will not return voluntarily to the UK to face a potential jail sentence for what was a terrible but unintentional accident." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50870459
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12-21-19, 11:38 AM | #67 |
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Suddenly it sounds like not going back there to "discuss" the incident with authorities was some pretty good legal advice seeing as this is what they intended to do all along.
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12-21-19, 08:10 PM | #68 |
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The US has never refused a request for extradition in over 100 years.
I believe this will be about to change and the world will see precisely how previous attitudes and values no longer exist.
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12-22-19, 01:46 PM | #69 | |
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Before we talk about changing attitudes and values have we ever had to wave diplomatic immunity in order to grant an extradition request? Has HM government ever done so for us or any other nation?
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12-22-19, 06:08 PM | #70 |
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IN many minds, Americans are special and the rules don't apply to us
What would have happened if the roles and countries were reversed?
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12-22-19, 06:23 PM | #71 |
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Can we first establish that it has actually happened before? Has any country ever waived diplomatic immunity? I have no idea and I am curious to know.
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12-22-19, 08:49 PM | #72 |
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A good valid point
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12-22-19, 09:42 PM | #73 | |
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Instead of getting all emotional, dramatic and whiny about cases we really have no clue about other than what the latest headlines tells us to think. I would hope the United States would honor the current agreements and conventions regarding diplomatic immunity. Which at this time under article 37 of the Vienna Convention applies to family members. If things need to be changed then citizens of the sending and receiving states should urge their OWN government to enter new bilateral agreements.
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12-23-19, 04:55 AM | #74 |
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My understanding is that the charge brought before a UK judge is to be Causing Death by Dangerous Driving.
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12-23-19, 03:23 PM | #75 | |
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http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9701/10...mat/index.html January 10, 1997 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The high-ranking Georgian diplomat suspected of driving drunk in a high-speed car accident that killed a 16-year-old girl was ordered by his government Friday to remain in the United States pending the outcome of the investigation. "Makharadze's lawyers said in a statement that their client was an "unwitting political pawn" who "has never had a brush with the law." Lawyers Paul Perito and Kirby Behre said Makharadze's rights had been violated by "the circus-like atmosphere" surrounding the highly publicized case. Georgian Diplomat Pleads Guilty in Death of Teen-Age Girl https://www.nytimes.com/1997/10/09/u...-age-girl.html
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