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HW3 · 02-01-11, 02:09 AM

That is a old problem with the auto positioning buttons that was never fixed by the developers in their patches. Just do not use them is the best advice I can give you.

Kalte Lanze · 02-01-11, 12:25 PM

Or save before using them? :P It seems to be specific to something I am doing in the second career though, which is unique in my opinion.

Jimbuna · 02-01-11, 01:58 PM

The problem has been around since day 1 of SH3 and on all manner of machines and OS.

Kalte Lanze · 02-01-11, 04:09 PM

Very strange that it only affects me now, however.

frau kaleun · 02-01-11, 04:25 PM

I used to always use those buttons for moving crew around, and I never had any problems either.

Then I started reading about CTDs from using them and got spooked and haven't used them since.

I don't do a lot of crew rearranging in-game anyway unless I'm ordering the guns manned or assigning people to the repair team, in which case I just double-click the appropriate station to get people there.

Jimbuna · 02-01-11, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalte Lanze

Very strange that it only affects me now, however.

It is an intermittent fault and can come and go without any logic pattern....believe me.

frau kaleun · 02-01-11, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

It is an intermittent fault and can come and go without any logic pattern....believe me.

And that's why I stopped using those buttons.

No way to know if it's going to bite you in the bum or not, each and every time.

It's those random "bugs" that are the real buzzkills, because you just never know what bizarre, unpredictable combo of factors is going to trigger a problem. Aside from the fact that it will almost always be triggered at the most inconvenient, pull-your-hair-out moment possible.

HW3 · 02-02-11, 02:56 AM

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It's those random "bugs" that are the real buzzkills, because you just never know what bizarre, unpredictable combo of factors is going to trigger a problem. Aside from the fact that it will almost always be triggered at the most inconvenient, pull-your-hair-out moment possible.

Amen to that.

Jimbuna · 02-02-11, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

And that's why I stopped using those buttons.

No way to know if it's going to bite you in the bum or not, each and every time.

It's those random "bugs" that are the real buzzkills, because you just never know what bizarre, unpredictable combo of factors is going to trigger a problem. Aside from the fact that it will almost always be triggered at the most inconvenient, pull-your-hair-out moment possible.

But only if you have hair

g8rk0k · 02-02-11, 09:11 PM

I was touring the Eastern Med when war breaks out w/ Soviets. Finished my patrol there, decided to go to Constanza for some Black Sea action (I'm in a type 7b out of Lorient, I was putting in for ammo/fuel at Cadiz, sinking anything that went in or out that end of the strait of Gibraltar. Later went into Med and worked Eastward.) Went up the Bosphorous and slammed into a net, or more accurately over it since I ended up on top of it due to a swell in the sea. Barely survived, repaired, continued to Constanza. Ended patrol. New patrol, sub stuck in dock. Scratched my head, loaded at a point before entering Constanza, went to Warna. Ended patrol. New patrol has my sub on land rolling onto it's side...

SH3 Commander has a start at sea option but checking it seems to make no difference. Maybe I'm just not clear on how the Black Sea operations are supposed to work. I did install the Merged Campaign mod of GWX before starting this new patrol that has me starting on the beach...

Was hoping someone could please give me a heads up on what's going on.

Vannevar · 03-08-11, 04:13 PM

Just starting a new career after a few months doing other things, and re-installed from fresh with a standard GWX3 and MFM setup, with just a few eye candy mods (port people, viz mines etc) on top.

Everything seemed to be running fine till I was tracking down a Merchantman in poor visibility (low winds) and decided to duck down for a listen. Hydrophone seemed to indicate that he was breaking up and sinking.

So, I closed in to confirm, and low 'n' behold he is chugging along merrily at 6 kts or so and definately not sinking. However, zooming in using free camera, I can hear the creaking but no engine/prop noise!

Now, a rustbucket tramp it may have been, but nothing needs THAT much oil, surely..

Joking aside, Im looking to try to repair rather than do the full reinstall on Win 7, so if anyone has come across the sinking sfx being called instead of the usual engine noises anywhere before, I'd greatly appreciate a pointer.

Cheers all,

Van

torpedobait · 03-09-11, 04:02 PM

I haven't see that one, but in case you hadn't seen it elsewhere, be sure that when you installed the fresh SHIII you put it in a directory other than one of the "Program FIles" directory. I suggest you use something like:
C:\Games\Ubisoft...
It doesn't like to run properly from the default directory, and who knows if that could cause something like you are seeing. Better to be safe, even if you have to reload everything.

Vannevar · 03-10-11, 04:21 PM

Already covered it, stowed away in c:\Games\SH3\..
Thanks for the response though, much apreciated.

Only seems to be the merchants, the ASW trawler and his two MTB friends that gave me hell in shallow water last night certainly sounded in fine voice.

Van

03-10-11, 04:34 PM

Are all Merchants doing this?
Where are you hunting this Merchant?
You don't hear some Morse Code do you?

Vannevar · 03-11-11, 04:17 PM

Hi Privateer.

The incidents have all been up at the top end of the irish sea, in the deep (ish) water channel that runs through the border between AM61 and AM64.

However, its first patrol (Oct 2nd 1940) and they were the first encounters, so it may happen elsewhere.

I dont recall hearing any Morse, but will load up now and have a listen to the next Medium merchant I find then confirm.

Update: Next encounter was a medium convoy in AM61. (Happy days!) I had a quick fly round on the free cam, and the escorts, tankers, aux cruiser and some of the merchants sound fine. Then I got to this one. No engine noise, just the sinking noises instead.

Just getting into position on the convoy now and I'll ID it properly, but at first glance its smaller than the previous ship that was having the same issue.

Thats the one.

Cheers

Van

02-01-11, 02:09 AM	#5791
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,439 Downloads: 453 Uploads: 0	That is a old problem with the auto positioning buttons that was never fixed by the developers in their patches. Just do not use them is the best advice I can give you. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

02-01-11, 12:25 PM	#5792
Kalte Lanze Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Or save before using them? :P It seems to be specific to something I am doing in the second career though, which is unique in my opinion. __________________ My SH3 Rig: Intel Wolfsdale 3.16GHz Dual Core nVidia 260 GTX 8188MB of RAM

02-01-11, 01:58 PM	#5793
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,334 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The problem has been around since day 1 of SH3 and on all manner of machines and OS. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

02-01-11, 04:09 PM	#5794
Kalte Lanze Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Very strange that it only affects me now, however. __________________ My SH3 Rig: Intel Wolfsdale 3.16GHz Dual Core nVidia 260 GTX 8188MB of RAM

02-02-11, 09:11 PM	#5800
g8rk0k Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Very Dry Boat I was touring the Eastern Med when war breaks out w/ Soviets. Finished my patrol there, decided to go to Constanza for some Black Sea action (I'm in a type 7b out of Lorient, I was putting in for ammo/fuel at Cadiz, sinking anything that went in or out that end of the strait of Gibraltar. Later went into Med and worked Eastward.) Went up the Bosphorous and slammed into a net, or more accurately over it since I ended up on top of it due to a swell in the sea. Barely survived, repaired, continued to Constanza. Ended patrol. New patrol, sub stuck in dock. Scratched my head, loaded at a point before entering Constanza, went to Warna. Ended patrol. New patrol has my sub on land rolling onto it's side... SH3 Commander has a start at sea option but checking it seems to make no difference. Maybe I'm just not clear on how the Black Sea operations are supposed to work. I did install the Merged Campaign mod of GWX before starting this new patrol that has me starting on the beach... Was hoping someone could please give me a heads up on what's going on.

02-01-11, 04:25 PM	#5795
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I used to always use those buttons for moving crew around, and I never had any problems either. Then I started reading about CTDs from using them and got spooked and haven't used them since. I don't do a lot of crew rearranging in-game anyway unless I'm ordering the guns manned or assigning people to the repair team, in which case I just double-click the appropriate station to get people there.

03-08-11, 04:13 PM	#5801
Vannevar Seaman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Deepest, darkest Wales. (Thats the place, not the biological!) Posts: 42 Downloads: 191 Uploads: 0	Needs a bit of oil... Just starting a new career after a few months doing other things, and re-installed from fresh with a standard GWX3 and MFM setup, with just a few eye candy mods (port people, viz mines etc) on top. Everything seemed to be running fine till I was tracking down a Merchantman in poor visibility (low winds) and decided to duck down for a listen. Hydrophone seemed to indicate that he was breaking up and sinking. So, I closed in to confirm, and low 'n' behold he is chugging along merrily at 6 kts or so and definately not sinking. However, zooming in using free camera, I can hear the creaking but no engine/prop noise! Now, a rustbucket tramp it may have been, but nothing needs THAT much oil, surely.. Joking aside, Im looking to try to repair rather than do the full reinstall on Win 7, so if anyone has come across the sinking sfx being called instead of the usual engine noises anywhere before, I'd greatly appreciate a pointer. Cheers all, Van

03-09-11, 04:02 PM	#5802
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	I haven't see that one, but in case you hadn't seen it elsewhere, be sure that when you installed the fresh SHIII you put it in a directory other than one of the "Program FIles" directory. I suggest you use something like: C:\Games\Ubisoft... It doesn't like to run properly from the default directory, and who knows if that could cause something like you are seeing. Better to be safe, even if you have to reload everything. __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All

03-10-11, 04:21 PM	#5803
Vannevar Seaman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Deepest, darkest Wales. (Thats the place, not the biological!) Posts: 42 Downloads: 191 Uploads: 0	Already covered it, stowed away in c:\Games\SH3\.. Thanks for the response though, much apreciated. Only seems to be the merchants, the ASW trawler and his two MTB friends that gave me hell in shallow water last night certainly sounded in fine voice. Van

03-10-11, 04:34 PM	#5804
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Are all Merchants doing this? Where are you hunting this Merchant? You don't hear some Morse Code do you?

03-11-11, 04:17 PM	#5805
Vannevar Seaman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Deepest, darkest Wales. (Thats the place, not the biological!) Posts: 42 Downloads: 191 Uploads: 0	Hi Privateer. The incidents have all been up at the top end of the irish sea, in the deep (ish) water channel that runs through the border between AM61 and AM64. However, its first patrol (Oct 2nd 1940) and they were the first encounters, so it may happen elsewhere. I dont recall hearing any Morse, but will load up now and have a listen to the next Medium merchant I find then confirm. Update: Next encounter was a medium convoy in AM61. (Happy days!) I had a quick fly round on the free cam, and the escorts, tankers, aux cruiser and some of the merchants sound fine. Then I got to this one. No engine noise, just the sinking noises instead. Just getting into position on the convoy now and I'll ID it properly, but at first glance its smaller than the previous ship that was having the same issue. Thats the one. Cheers Van Last edited by Vannevar; 03-11-11 at 04:58 PM.