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Old 01-29-07, 11:08 PM   #1
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Does anyone know a way to increase the sound volume of the sonar effects? It would be interesting to enhance the audio in the sonar to be able to hear the noise of a merchant vessel directly first hand or the sound of a cavitating sub directly from the Sonar display. ATM the sound effects are so faint that the BB sound really isn't coming though that well except in chases of whales/shrimp. I've tried just turning up the sound effect volume in the options screen, but it also makes some of the other sounds (pings, torpedo launches) painfully loud.

There's got to be a way to increase the sonar sound effects independently right?
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Old 01-31-07, 10:05 PM   #2
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Okiedokie. Figured out how to do it. Just a matter of finding a sound editor and upping the amplitude a good 3-4 fold and then using SCSoundEdit to put the sound in the game.

I'm thinking about upping every Broadband sound effect in the game up a good 3-4 fold to give the option of identifying a contact by the sound of its broadband, without having to automatically go to NB to match sonar lines. Sure you can do it already, but the range at which you can actually hear the BB engine effects for each sound type is really really low, like withing 3 nm iirc.

we'll see what happens.
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Old 01-31-07, 10:31 PM   #3
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Okiedokie. Figured out how to do it. Just a matter of finding a sound editor and upping the amplitude a good 3-4 fold and then using SCSoundEdit to put the sound in the game.

I'm thinking about upping every Broadband sound effect in the game up a good 3-4 fold to give the option of identifying a contact by the sound of its broadband, without having to automatically go to NB to match sonar lines. Sure you can do it already, but the range at which you can actually hear the BB engine effects for each sound type is really really low, like withing 3 nm iirc.

we'll see what happens.
I am in favor of this. The lack of an audible component to the passive sonar has always bugged me.
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Old 02-01-07, 12:53 AM   #4
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Keep us posted LoBlo.

You might want to finesse the levels by category - whale farting is hard on the drums !

Could this Spectogram analyser help ? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ight=MSGalileo

Lets take it that a reasonable soundcard and a decent headphone set is a basic starter kit.
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Old 02-01-07, 03:29 AM   #5
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I use finiteless sounds mods with a pair of USB headphones and have set my volumn levels to his recommendations and I haven't noticed any issues with the passive sonar sounds (maybe I just stopped paying attention).

That having been said, turning up the gain on some sound effects sounds like a good idea, I'm always excited for new mods, just be sure to descriminate sounds that are already loud enough (whales...). Also, for my sake, if you turn up one of the torpedo sounds (the one used in the game by 98% of the torpedoes), be sure to turn them ALL up (there are about seven torpedo sounds in the sound archive which aren't used) so I can use them later on, which I will. Thanks!

If you haven't tried the finiteless stand alone sound mods, I'd recommend them.

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Old 02-01-07, 12:17 PM   #6
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Thanks for the interest guys.

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You might want to finesse the levels by category - whale farting is hard on the drums !
Actually I was thinking about changing the whale sound to just a bunch of farting... what'd expect from somthing that eats shrimp and seaweed all day long

So, I've made some starting tweaks and think the results are better but the issues are two. First, how loud/close is reasonable for the sounds to really start being distinguishable. And second, after a sound effect is increased so much, the distortion in the original sound is brought out as well.

So far I've upped most of the broadband sounds between 2-3 fold (except whale farting, that's increased about 10 fold). The result is that at 5 knots, you can really hear the loudest platforms distinct sounds pretty good at around 5nm... things like carriers, supertankers, and anything with SL around 80-85 come out pretty well at that range. The quieter things like CGs (SL 69) and idling fishing boats (SL 65) are still pretty indistinguishable even at close ranges (2-3nm).

I could up there sound effects even more... just gotta remember that all the distortion in the sound (inaudible at low volumes) get increased as well and the quality of the sound may be less... then again, what good is good quality sound if it never comes out in the game...

more tweaking in order.
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Old 02-03-07, 01:44 PM   #7
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Ok, I've got a prelminary version finished.

I've increased the volume on some sounds and replaced others totally. The faintest contacts still are inaudible (which is probably as it should be) and the loudest (carriers, supertankers) give some nice noise to give you confidence in what your hearing. DE subs have an increased sound so that a loud (aka Song) DE which is cavitating can give you a good sound effect on BB. SSN sound has been replaced and increased as well, but I haven't tested it out yet.

If someone wants to test it, I suggest a custom map with various hulls ideling about at around 5-8nm (that's what I've been testing on). I suggest, one big civillian, one fishing/trawler, one cavitating SSK, one cavitating SSN, a medium warship, and a carrier arranged in a circle around your sub to give you a feel for the different sounds.

Anyone want to try it out? Feedback welcomed.
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Old 02-04-07, 10:15 AM   #8
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Yep - I'll give her a run. Just PM me with details.
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Old 02-07-07, 12:56 PM   #9
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Yep - I'll give her a run. Just PM me with details.
Cool deal. Its not where I want it yet. My crappy sound editor has severe limitations, but I think its a subtle and interesting improvement in the right circumstances.
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Old 02-07-07, 04:56 PM   #10
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Yea I thought it was just me but with Sub Command the BB sound was good, why SCS turned it down for DW I don't know.

I ad the speaker cranked up to listen to a sub and then there was a mighty ping in the house...made the kids cry.
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Old 02-13-07, 04:51 PM   #11
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So initial testing is done. Many thanks to Bellman for taking the time to try things out. The new sounds levels seem like they are behaving like desired.

Not only have the sound volumes been increased, but sound effects changed totally. Cargoships have a deep rumble, carrier have a distinctive rhythmic roar, and warships hum.

Only question now is deciding whether I'm happy with the sound effects each ship has been given or to do some more swapping.:hmm:
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Old 02-13-07, 04:52 PM   #12
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Old 02-23-07, 05:00 PM   #13
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When you're happy with what you have, zip it up and send it to me. I'll host it, you betcha!
Thanks SubGuru. I think I'm happy with what I have and will send you the files. There should be two files. One with the BB changes, the other with the reduced interface volumes.

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Old 03-10-07, 10:06 AM   #14
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Any news about this?

I'm very interested in this mod.

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Old 03-18-07, 02:00 PM   #15
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LoBlo - can you bring us up to speed on this eagerly awaited mod ?
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