Hamas launches war on Israel - Page 2

Rockstar · 10-07-23, 01:03 PM

I wonder how many of those American looking firearms Palestinians are dancing around in the streets with came from stocks our administration left in Afghanistan?

Catfish · 10-07-23, 01:43 PM

I admit I did not expect this.
But I am quite sure the weapons for Hamas are coming from Iran (not Afghanistan), and behind it all probably Putin. The worldwide destabilization is working for him.

Skybird · 10-07-23, 02:27 PM

I expect Israel wiiill react with a little more than just a "police operation". They now report over one hundred dead, and then there are the hostages.

Egypts warning shows that crow of same feather forever will fly together, no matter the babble done on a sunny day.

Concern is what Hezbollah is up to. This enemy is a completely different weight class than Hamas. Its assumed they have 100 to 150 thousand missiles and rockets, and as many fighters.

This action has written "escalation" all over it. Time for serious concerns.

By chance, yesterday I read something that reminded of that in the past wars, Eastgermany actively supported and delievered stuff to the enemies of Israel in the war in question - and Westgermany did nothing similiar for Israel.

Germany's Sugar-Anni used the opportunity to practice speaking with a low voice while sending dark looks at her notes sheet. If I were the Hamas leader, I would be really worried now.

Rockstar · 10-07-23, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

I admit I did not expect this.
But I am quite sure the weapons for Hamas are coming from Iran (not Afghanistan), and behind it all probably Putin. The worldwide destabilization is working for him.

Oh no doubt Putin and Iran support and supply the actions of Hamas and me wondering about what I see in the news does not in any way absolve them of their responsibility. But why I see Palestinians dancing in the streets holding what looks like U.S. made weapons is still valid. Because it is very well known the Taliban are selling them.

Quote:

The Taliban Are Now Arms Dealers
Terrorists are shopping for left-behind American weapons—and turning them against Washington’s friends around the world.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/05...les-terrorism/

Or maybe we should just ignore it and just chalk it up as an anti-Biden conspiracy theory so we don’t have to think about.

Catfish · 10-07-23, 02:49 PM

^ whatever created all this mess, reading the last part of the post above the destabilisation of the US obviously works

Dargo · 10-07-23, 04:01 PM

At 6:30 a.m. local time, Hamas launched a large-scale surprise attack on Israeli territory. Within hours, at least 2,500 rockets were fired, according to Israel. The Palestinians penetrated Israel by land, sea and air and crossed the border into the Gaza Strip at Erez. There, they reportedly captured several Israeli civilians. According to an Israeli spokesman, this morning there have been 22 deaths on the Israeli side and already more than 545 wounded. The resistance group Islamic Jihad, the second armed faction in Gaza, said it had joined the fighters. Palestinians are also said to have captured several tanks from the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF). Clashes between Israeli forces and Palestinians are taking place in villages on the Gaza border. How is it that Shin Bet and the Mossad, surely two of the strongest intelligence agencies in the world, had not seen this coming?

Catfish · 10-07-23, 04:20 PM

THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army. So it all comes down to a terrorist act. Water on Natanyahu's mill to subdue the opposition, but this seems like a war indeed

mapuc · 10-07-23, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army. So it all comes down to a terrorist act. Water on Natanyahu's mill to subdue the opposition, but this seems like a war indeed

Makes one wonder if Iran is behind it ?

Markus

Catfish · 10-07-23, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Makes one wonder if Iran is behind it ?
Markus

Yep, but with some additional support: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...5&postcount=17
Main goal is to destabilize the US (see Skybird's Focus link). Unfortunately it is working well.

mapuc · 10-07-23, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Yep, but with some additional support: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...5&postcount=17
Main goal is to destabilize the US (see Skybird's Focus link). Unfortunately it is working well.

Yes they receive weapons from Iran, what I meant was, is Iran the brain behind this military operation ?

As you wrote:
" THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army."

Catfish · 10-07-23, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Yes they receive weapons from Iran, what I meant was, is Iran the brain behind this military operation ? [...]

I see a high probability of Putin's Russia involved.

mapuc · 10-07-23, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

I see a high probability of Putin's Russia involved.

As he didn't have enough problems with the Ukrainians

It sounds plausible though.

Markus

Skybird · 10-07-23, 05:25 PM

Putin could use this to divert US attention from Ukraine to the ME.

For Hamas, its about torpedoing the peace process between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Its said that SA could be willing to sign a peace deal with Israel. Thjats why Hamas wants Israel to flatten parts of Gazta and kill as many civilians as possible. That creates healdines SA probably would not ignore, like Egypt already has threatened.

Israel now reports 150 of its own people killed, 1400 wounded.

Bodies of dead Israeli have been pulled through the streets.

Primitive scum is primitive scum, no matter how they dress it up.

Rockstar · 10-07-23, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Putin could use this to divert US attention from Ukraine to the ME.

For Hamas, its about torpedoing the peace process between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Its said that SA could be willing to sign a peace deal with Israel. Thjats why Hamas wants Israel to flatten parts of Gazta and kill as many civilians as possible. That creates healdines SA probably would not ignore, like Egypt already has threatened.

Israel now reports 150 of its own people killed.

I think you’re right, most likely these are two separate issues and I think we’re more than capable of handling both.

Skybird · 10-07-23, 06:06 PM

Meanwhile 300 Israeli dead, 1600 wounded.

10-07-23, 01:03 PM	#16
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,832 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I wonder how many of those American looking firearms Palestinians are dancing around in the streets with came from stocks our administration left in Afghanistan? __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

10-07-23, 01:43 PM	#17
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I admit I did not expect this. But I am quite sure the weapons for Hamas are coming from Iran (not Afghanistan), and behind it all probably Putin. The worldwide destabilization is working for him. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-07-23, 02:27 PM	#18
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I expect Israel wiiill react with a little more than just a "police operation". They now report over one hundred dead, and then there are the hostages. Egypts warning shows that crow of same feather forever will fly together, no matter the babble done on a sunny day. Concern is what Hezbollah is up to. This enemy is a completely different weight class than Hamas. Its assumed they have 100 to 150 thousand missiles and rockets, and as many fighters. This action has written "escalation" all over it. Time for serious concerns. By chance, yesterday I read something that reminded of that in the past wars, Eastgermany actively supported and delievered stuff to the enemies of Israel in the war in question - and Westgermany did nothing similiar for Israel. Germany's Sugar-Anni used the opportunity to practice speaking with a low voice while sending dark looks at her notes sheet. If I were the Hamas leader, I would be really worried now. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-07-23, 02:49 PM	#20
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ whatever created all this mess, reading the last part of the post above the destabilisation of the US obviously works __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 10-07-23 at 04:11 PM.*

10-07-23, 04:20 PM	#22
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army. So it all comes down to a terrorist act. Water on Natanyahu's mill to subdue the opposition, but this seems like a war indeed __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-07-23, 05:25 PM	#28
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Putin could use this to divert US attention from Ukraine to the ME. For Hamas, its about torpedoing the peace process between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Its said that SA could be willing to sign a peace deal with Israel. Thjats why Hamas wants Israel to flatten parts of Gazta and kill as many civilians as possible. That creates healdines SA probably would not ignore, like Egypt already has threatened. Israel now reports 150 of its own people killed, 1400 wounded. Bodies of dead Israeli have been pulled through the streets. Primitive scum is primitive scum, no matter how they dress it up. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-07-23, 06:06 PM	#30
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Meanwhile 300 Israeli dead, 1600 wounded. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.