GER politics thread

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Aufreger des Jahres eh? "Wie schaffen wir es eigentlich noch, morgens aufzustehen, ohne den eigenen Wecker wegen persönlichen Angriffs zu verklagen?"

You would not be here and tell me that if this choir would have turned it into a brown Kampflied.

As I said above, the revealing fact is that many people were angry about the song and took it serious, because they live in a country that gives them all reason to believe it was meant serious. And the WDR director Mr. Burow just claims afterwards that it was not meant serious, after the sh!t had hit the fan. Proving it he did not. Doubts remain. And propagandistic brainwashing and political correct program design is a trademark of the ARD broadcasters. Not meaning to say that ZDFis any better.


Edit:
Just found this.
https://www.ortneronline.at/oma-die-alte-umweltsau/

Man stelle sich vor, ein Funktionär der AfD, oder der FPÖ hätte sich derart „satirisch“ mit illegalen Immigranten auseinandergesetzt. Ein veritables Verhetzungsverfahren gegen die Urheber wäre wohl noch vor dem Ende der Durchsage in Gang gesetzt worden.

He is right.^
Lernen Sie Geschichte, Herrschaften!

[Skybird]

by Der Tagesspiegel, Klaus Stuttmann.

[Skybird]

Since of today, no more BBC World program in the once again reshuffled TV channels list of our cable provider. SD version is switched off, HD turned pay TV.

[Catfish]

Germany's CO2 emissions down by 35 percent in 2018 to the lowest point since 1970:
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news...emissions-2018
If we only could keep that trend

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Germany's CO2 emissions down by 35 percent in 2018 to the lowest point since 1970:
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news...emissions-2018
If we only could keep that trend

I wonder how much would change, after all, is Germany a significant contributor to CO2 emissions?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I wonder how much would change, after all, is Germany a significant contributor to CO2 emissions?

Not compared to e.g. Russia, China or the USA, but it develops new ideas and techniques.
Even China has to rethink its politics when it comes to smog in Beijing. Not that most care at all. Will be a hard awakening when we have to realize the "environment" is not only "around" people but we the latter are only a part of it, and will suffer with its deterioration.

If a country full of industry and high energy requirements can reduce emissions by a third it is a) a step in the right direction and b) no point to claim that "it is not possible". If the political framework and the people's will is there, there is a way. It is still too much pollution compared to Norway or Sweden, but they of course have more landscape and strong relief for turbines etc.. despite these given advantages they are already leading in other branches when it comes to sustainable management of energy and resources.

Remains to be seen if it really works out over time here.

[Skybird]

You forget to mention the serious amount of power we had to buy from our nuclear and coal-dirty neighbours because our own energy supply was not sufficient and the German situations and deliveries were threateningly destabilizing the whole continental powergrid. They cursed us all around, and the german high subsidies make this a non-competitive construction. And we have the by far highest electricity costs in the world.


With the planned explosion in costs for private households in the next 5 years, it starts to gecome really ruinius for the ordinary private milking cow.


Also, much of the CO2 not blown out by Germany -. now is being blown out by others sonewhere else. For less productivity, making their dirt "dirtier dirt". The German coal powerplants count to some of the most modern and - for coal standards - cleaniest in the world. And most of the saved CO2 emissions over here stem from saved electricity-production from coal.


Finally, there is currently sa fire going on on the other side of the pkanet. It blows out fine dusts and gas emissions comared to which the emssions of Europe over a whole year dwarfen. Adds some to the realstic relevance of the German prides. The Germans are willing to invest incredible fortunes for the smallest gains. Ten years ago or so it was the Pinatubo breaking out. Some party-pooper back then counted out on TV that within 4 or six weeks it had emitted more climate-relöevant gasses than the whole indistry of Eurpe and North America together and over one year.


All that money that the Germans are now wasting and that is beign brought up under insreasing econimic oressure by private households - is money not avialable when it comes to what it really is about: not commanding climate to reverse, but what it is about is ADAPTING to the new much warmer world.


Now they have forbidden not just pil heatings in private houses, but gas hetaings as well, and the costs for additional taxes private heaters must pay for gas and oil and gasline are planned to explode ever further from year to year to hilariosu and absolutely insane levels. Meanwhle, india and China alone build curently HUNDREDS of new coal powerplants.



Only stpids would take the germans as an exmaple. Once again the Germans are all alone with their belief that the world is just waiting for the Germans to show them the way.



So, Super-Uschi, and Germany: pull in that impertinently erected pointing finger. What gets celebrate dhere is just an insane waste of unbeleievable amounts of fisala resources for depressing small effects.


And without nuclear power, this whole energy turning thing can be forgotten anyway. We are not Sweden with is huge emoy places and large forests wehre they get 1.1 to 1.4 new trees for every tree they chop. We are not Austria or Switzerland with their huge potential for waterpower, German geography doe snot iffer that potential. Wind industry is heavily subsidized( and in deep existential troubles currently), so was and is the solar industry where Germany directly subsidized the solar industry of China which got the German competition (Until then the world market leader!) killed. . Subsidized industries are non-competititve industries, they are zombies that pull the whole economy down with them and are a burden to everybody.


https://think-again.org/co2-der-vergebliche-kampf/

Lassen Sie uns nun ein Thema analysieren, welches zwischen Politik und Physik, zwischen Mehrheit und Wahrheit angesiedelt ist: Global Warming (GW). Es stammt zwar aus USA, hat aber unser Land mit einer Unerbittlichkeit durchdrungen, wie sie nur in Deutschland zu finden ist.
Um die Welt zu retten, sind Politik und Wissenschaft eine Ehe eingegangen, die sehr schnell in Zwangsprostitution endete – für die Wissenschaft. Die Forscher dürfen jetzt nicht mehr ihrer wahren Neigung folgen und mit Lust und Liebe die reine Wahrheit suchen, sondern sie müssen liefern, was der Freier fordert. Und der möchte schreckliche Nachrichten, er braucht Sprengstoff, um die Welt in Angst und Abhängigkeit zu versetzen. Willkommen in der Welt der Klimaretter.

Vielleicht können Sie sich nicht vorstellen, dass scheinbar ehrenwerte, weltweit etablierte Organisationen wie Greenpeace, Sierra Club, WWF oder der Weltklimarat IPCC korrupt und unethisch sind. Aber schauen Sie einfach selbst: Schon bei ganz oberflächlicher Betrachtung wird der Schwindel sofort sichtbar. Als Temperaturmessungen durch Satelliten über achtzehn Jahre keine Erwärmung zeigten, da gab man dem Kind einen neuen Namen: aus Global Warming wurde Climate Change. Nachdem die ursprüngliche Bedrohung also ausgeblieben war, verkauft man jetzt deren vermeintliche Folgen.
Das IPCC verweigert sich jeglicher wissenschaftlichen Debatte, insbesondere, wenn seine düsteren Vorhersagen Jahr für Jahr daneben liegen. Die einzige Antwort: „97 Prozent aller Wissenschaftler unterstützen diese Ergebnisse“. Wie erwähnt ist Physik aber keine Sache der Mehrheit, sondern der Wahrheit. Als man Einstein vorhielt, dass hundert Wissenschaftler seine Theorie ablehnten antwortete er: „Warum so viele? Ein einziger, der mir meinen Fehler zeigt, würde genügen.“
Und außerdem: Wie objektiv sind besagte 97 Prozent? Stellen Sie sich vor, zwei Freunde diskutieren, ob es den lieben Gott gibt oder nicht. Als sie sich nicht einigen können fragt man die Experten. Und siehe da, 97 Prozent sagten „ja, es gibt ihn“. Man hatte alle Pfarrer, Bischöfe und sogar den Papst persönlich gefragt. Wenn die es nicht wissen, wer dann?
So liefern die linientreuen Wissenschaftler gehorsam die gewünschten, politisch opportunen „Ergebnisse“ an ihre Schutzpatronen. Die so gerüsteten mächtigsten Männer und Frauen der Welt treffen sich, um den Planeten zu retten und um sich gegenseitig in ihrer Betroffenheit zu überbieten. Ihnen, denen die Erde und ihre Temperatur angeblich mehr am Herzen liegen als alles andere, ihnen ist es in 25 Jahren nicht gelungen, die Konzentration des CO2-Moleküls in der Luft um ein paar lächerliche Millionstel zu senken.
Statt das Problem zu lösen, haben sie es zur neuen Religion erhoben, die das Vakuum füllt, welches vom schwindenden Christentum hinterlassen und vom gedeihenden Islam noch nicht besetzt worden ist.
Diese neuen Hohepriester profitieren ganz massiv von Furcht und Unwissenheit in der Bevölkerung. Man lebt sehr gut vom Geschäft mit Windmühlen und Solardächern, von internationalen Megakongressen, wo Gleichgesinnte sich gegenseitig lobend erwähnen, Medaillen umhängen, alternative Nobelpreise verleihen und gleichzeitig gründlich die eigenen Taschen füllen. Und auch wenn die Ergebnisse der 27.000 Experten in Madrid sehr mager waren, eines steht schon fest: der Ort für die nächste Konferenz: Glasgow.

And some illustrations on the popular concept of "Milchmädchenrehcnunbgen."
https://think-again.org/willkommen-b...-milchmadchen/

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I wonder how much would change, after all, is Germany a significant contributor to CO2 emissions?

No.

[Catfish]

So.. do we need more nuclear powerplants? New ones, of course.. burning the waste.. reducing plutonium decay to 300 years
Like the russian BN-800 reactor.. the predecessor has some manageable problems, the new one did not have any yet.

"Germany, on the other hand, is internationally isolated with its nuclear and coal phase-out. No other country dares to undertake such a risky and expensive experiment.
By building fast reactors, low-CO₂ energy would be available in abundance for thousands of years - not only for Germany, but also for the rapidly growing demand in emerging and developing countries. What are we waiting for?"

https://www.zeit.de/2019/41/kernkraf...ende-atommuell

english via Google translate

[ikalugin]

BREST is probably the way if you want fancy nuclear reactors, with on-site closed fuel cycle.

But BNs would work fine with classical PWRs (ie VVER1000/1200 etc), you would need separate reprocessing though.

[Skybird]

Madness getting more mad, this time in Vienna (once again).


https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/gender...ost_2020-01-14


According rules are acitvely pushed for and turned into mandatory legislation by the EU.

[Catfish]

Police raids chinese offices

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1ZE19F

[Skybird]

The psychopathologization of climate sceptics. Lets declare critical scientists and voices mentioning dogma-hurting data as mentally ill.



https://www.psychotherapeutenjournal.../23/index.html



https://www.achgut.com/artikel/psych...sychisch_krank






Lets criminalise, lets punish, lets lock climate sceptics away - for life!


https://www.achgut.com/artikel/verha...traftat_werden




One can really start to be afraid to live in this place any longer, if this becomes true.

[Skybird]

I did not trust my eyes and had to read it twice to believe what I just had red:

one of the biggest plunderers, fraudsters and bank robbers of human history, Mario Draghi, will be awarded the German Bundesverdienstkreuz (Federal Cross of Merit). Its the highest civil decoration in Germany.

GDR 2.0 - its not just a mental asylum, but one where the leaders act with utmost contempt for those they lead and betray. And those being betrayed - doing nothing about it.

[Catfish]

"Bundesverdienstkreuz an Mario Draghi - wie zuvor an Merkel, Ratzinger oder Strauß"

Noch Fragen?