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Old 07-12-20, 05:35 PM   #4306
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It was in the Swedish news some days ago, about people who had lost their immunity after some weeks or so.

Vaccine:

Let see if I can get this straight.

When we hear or read the word Vaccine, we probably think of syringes and liquid that a doctor injects into the body.

Maybe in this case, the Corona case it may be different.

Due to this short time immunity, we could end up with pills.

1-2 Pills per week or 1-2 pills every 14 days.

Then the question is, who shall have the right to these pills.

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Old 07-12-20, 11:11 PM   #4307
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OAN is a really Far-Right cable news channel with all the baggage extreme Far-Right entais; it is not fake in the sense OAN is real, but OAN does deal in a whole slew of conspiracy theories, wildly unattributed "sources" and a news 'style' best described as "supermarket tabloid with an extreme political bent"; anything OAN reports should be taken with pounds, not grains, of salt and any claim they make of facts should also be thoroughly fact-checked; OAN has been caught several times making absolutely false reports...


One America News Network --

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_America_News_Network


I do agree that such reportage is in very poor taste, even more so when it has the potential to tragically affect lives; particularly of those who may be taken in by such charlatanism...







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God, wouldn't it be just horrible if something mentioned on OAN turned out to beneficial. The horror!
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Old 07-13-20, 01:13 AM   #4308
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hmmm, anyone notice the similarities....

Maybe, but there is one very big difference; CNN, and other MSM outlets, are very good about making corrections and/or retractions when they are caught out on factual matters, very often making the adjustments by direct mention on future edits of an article or report, and making specif note of what has been revised or deleted to make a report more accurate, whereas OAN, and other of its ilk, make wild, inaccurate and often patently false reports and, when caught out or challenged, make almost no effort to correct their reportage, opting to just ignore factual proof/evidence refute their claims; I don't know about anyone else, but I am far more inclined to give more credence to sources willing to acknowledge their failings and seek to se the record straight tan I am to give credence to sources with long track records of denying their own failings; its called responsibility and OAN, Hannitty, and others of that stripe seem to lack that virtue big time...

I do want to point out Fox News does make note of edits in their initial reportage in later iterations, but, far more often than not, they do not specify the nature of the edit/retraction; where, say, CNN will put at the end of their articles something like "EDIT: the name of the quoted source was mistakenly reported and has been changed" along with the specifics of the change/deletion, Fox News simply puts something like "Edit made to original article 07/13/2020" with no specifics as to what has been changed or omitted; I guess its easier to give the impression of accuracy if you don't acknowledge your mistakes, particularly glaring ones...


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God, wouldn't it be just horrible if something mentioned on OAN turned out to beneficial. The horror!

Oh. I'm sure OAN has done beneficial reportage before; every dog has its day...

Oh, wait, do you mean beneficial in general, to the broader public, or beneficial to a niche, or, perhaps, beneficial to a certain individual who, himself, is no paragon of honesty, accuracy, or truth...

I tend to look at reportage as a sort of LCD situation: strip away all the rhetoric, establish the knowable, provable fact(s), and deal with that core information as what to think about and consider...



If I'm having car trouble, and one mechanic blames the problem on my not driving a Ford, and a second mechanic blames the problem on my not driving a Chevy, I think I'll take the advice of the guy who simply tells me something like "Your car needs a front end realignment..."...





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Old 07-13-20, 04:35 AM   #4309
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Now also Kings College London indicates that immunity may only be short-lived.


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-53386093


We're screwed, if true. And the indices are mounting that it is true.
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Too many countries are headed in the wrong direction, says the head of the World Health Organization.

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warns that mixed messages from leaders are undermining public trust.

Coronavirus immunity may only last for months, according to a study by King's College London.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson says it is "important to wear masks in shops"

In England, nail bars, beauty salons, spas, and tattoo parlours have been allowed to reopen.

Scotland reports no new deaths for fifth day in a row.

Mexico now has the fourth-most virus deaths, passing Italy.

Globally there have been 12.9 million confirmed cases with 568,000 deaths.
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1-2 Pills per week or 1-2 pills every 14 days.

Then the question is, who shall have the right to these pills.

Markus

If it is up to the USA Health care system, only those who can afford to pay the $500.00 per pill price.
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If it is up to the USA Health care system, only those who can afford to pay the $500.00 per pill price.
I wasn't exactly thinking on USA only, but the entire world.

You are right though, the price per pill would be sky high

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Look what happened with Remdesivir.
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France awards health workers pay rises worth €8bn (£7.2bn; $9bn) after a series of protests.

The number of confirmed global infections since the outbreak began passes 13m

In England, face masks will be compulsory in shops from 24 July.

The UK could see about 120,000 new coronavirus deaths in a second wave of infections this winter.

California reimposes restrictions on indoor activities including bars and restaurants.

Singapore's economy plunges by 41% compared to the previous quarter.

Hong Kong Disneyland to close less than a month after reopening, as the city reimposes distancing rules.
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At least 43 people in the US state of Michigan have tested positive for coronavirus after attending a party.

As the number of coronavirus cases in India continues to rise, people have been urged to wear face masks.
But there is no system to safely dispose of protective equipment and rubbish collectors say the waste is putting their lives at risk.

Iran has reinstated restrictions in the capital, Tehran, to combat a resurgence of Covid-19.

A photograph, shared tens of thousands of times on social media, appears to show President Trump not wearing a mask correctly (with his nose left uncovered) during his visit to a military hospital.

India's Jammu and Kashmir will open for tourism in phases starting from Tuesday, authorities have said.

The southern Indian city of Bangalore, with a population of more than 8 million people, will go back under lockdown for a week amid rising cases.

Health officials in the capital Tokyo are appealing for more than 800 theatregoers to get tested for the virus - after a stage production was found to be the source of dozens of cases.
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