Move external spare torps aft to bow or vv?

zygoma · 03-05-12, 03:34 AM

I'm sure it's happened to all the other noob (c'mon, everyone started out new here once, right?) where all the bow fish, including external spares, have been fired, or at least loaded into one or two bow tubes.
Meanwhile, there are those coupl'a aft externals just sitting there (as well as the internal spares, if we had either a crane of infinite rope to use with blocks-and-tackle to drag their asses back up on deck.
So.....are bow torpedoes forever destined to be shot only from bow tubes, and aft fish from aft tubes? While I *can* usually set up for a decent aft shot after an acute-angle approach at an oncoming merchant target, it's really slow to go for a follow-up shot with a Type VII boat.
So, any (printable) ideas for the World's Oldest Noob (60 in a couple of days)?
Tnx,73 and so mote it be,
-.- .-.. --... .... -. -.--

Alpha Von Burg · 03-05-12, 04:14 AM

I had the same question once. Why can't I just load the aft external reserves to the internal bow reserves?

As it turns out, the external reserves are places in a way so that they can quickly be placed into the U-Boat directly.

Im sure I can get a better picture.

Now imagine taking out aft or bow reserves and taking them to thier opposite internals, in port this is no problem with cranes and stuff, but out at sea, your crew better becareful not to drop it into the water.

I hope that was the answer you were expecting.

Oh and hello, hiram and welcome aboard Herr Kaleun

( it's always polite to welcome new comers)

Kapt Z · 03-05-12, 07:50 AM

Can you move the aft external(s) to the forward torpedo room in the game?

No.

Did they during the real war? Yes. As I remember from one of my u-boat books, I think about Teddy Suhren, that it was quite a crazy feat.

The worked the torpedo into a cradle on deck. Wrapped it in a bunch of life preservers, flooded the boat down to decks awash. Some of the crew in boats and others swimming actually towed the beast in the water to the other end of the boat. They then flooded down that end and worked the fish into the cradle and blew ballast to bring everything out of the water. Then they winched it up and lowered it into other torpedo room.

Needless to say this kind of operation must have taken a LONG time and would only have been possible in some truly remote location.

I have no idea how many boats even used their external torpedoes in the war. Took too much time and prevented diving if sighted. I think there were also concerns about the fish being reliable after long stowage in the external tubes.

Kafka BC · 03-05-12, 08:07 AM

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... I think there were also concerns about the fish being reliable after long stowage in the external tubes.

I recall reading that each internally stored torpedo was usually stripped down, cleaned, and checked for corrosion and leaks about once every five days. This certainly wouldn't be possible with externally stored torpedoes.

krashkart · 03-05-12, 09:25 AM

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I recall reading that each internally stored torpedo was usually stripped down, cleaned, and checked for corrosion and leaks about once every five days. This certainly wouldn't be possible with externally stored torpedoes.

Imagine if they had been able to model this in the game, and you happen to run into a juicy convoy right in the middle of a maintenance cycle.

Kafka BC · 03-05-12, 09:49 AM

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Imagine if they had been able to model this in the game, and you happen to run into a juicy convoy right in the middle of a maintenance cycle.

I think their maintenance was going on all the time. They probably did maybe three torpedoes a day, one per each eight hour watch in the torpedo room.

krashkart · 03-05-12, 10:00 AM

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I think their maintenance was going on all the time. They probably did maybe three torpedoes a day, one per each eight hour watch in the torpedo room.

Makes sense. I'd rather it be done all at once at the last minute, much like paying bills.

Grats on your new avatar, BTW. I'd go easy on the mascara next time...

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Kafka BC · 03-05-12, 10:09 AM

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Grats on your new avatar, BTW. I'd go easy on the mascara next time...

!!!???

What the Hey? It changed? I liked the Navy Dude, I don't like that...creepy.

I'll have to figure how to get my own up there.

[Edit: Its gone now. It still was creepy.]

Sailor Steve · 03-05-12, 10:12 AM

These are shots of torpedo transfers from a milk cow, but the principle is the same.

As you can see it was not a job for the faint-of-heart. Did service boats carry the flotation devices to make a rear-to-front transfer? I don't know, but space was at a premium.

krashkart · 03-05-12, 10:16 AM

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!!!???

What the Hey? It changed? I liked the Navy Dude, I don't like that...creepy.

I'll have to figure how to get my own up there.

[Edit: Its gone now. It still was creepy.]

I wore mine for a couple of days before it dawned on me.

EDIT: New members get hazed here with various avatars. If you want a custom avatar you can donate a certain amount to Subsim and PM Neal with a copy of your new avatar.

Sailor Steve · 03-05-12, 10:20 AM

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!!!???

What the Hey? It changed? I liked the Navy Dude, I don't like that...creepy.

I'll have to figure how to get my own up there.

[Edit: Its gone now. It still was creepy.]

It comes at post #179 and is gone again at #180. There's another one somewhere in the 400s.

Kafka BC · 03-05-12, 10:35 AM

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These are shots of torpedo transfers from a milk cow, but the principle is the same. ...

Now those are cool pics. Never seen them before.

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It comes at post #179 and is gone again at #180. There's another one somewhere in the 400s.

Thanks for the warning.

Kafka BC · 03-05-12, 10:49 AM

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Fuunnnny. Now I shall always have a token to remember this day.

VONHARRIS · 03-05-12, 10:51 AM

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These are shots of torpedo transfers from a milk cow, but the principle is the same

Amazing pictures
Thank you for sharing.

andwii · 03-05-12, 12:05 PM

Very very nice pictures, love the pic of the doctor it reminds me of what my grandfather had to do when he was in the navy.

03-05-12, 04:14 AM	#2
Alpha Von Burg Engineer Join Date: May 2010 Location: Unknown Posts: 202 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I had the same question once. Why can't I just load the aft external reserves to the internal bow reserves? As it turns out, the external reserves are places in a way so that they can quickly be placed into the U-Boat directly. Im sure I can get a better picture. Now imagine taking out aft or bow reserves and taking them to thier opposite internals, in port this is no problem with cranes and stuff, but out at sea, your crew better becareful not to drop it into the water. I hope that was the answer you were expecting. Oh and hello, hiram and welcome aboard Herr Kaleun ( it's always polite to welcome new comers) __________________ -Kapitänleutnant Richard L. Römer Last edited by Alpha Von Burg; 03-05-12 at 04:28 AM.

03-05-12, 07:50 AM	#3
Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 906 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	Can you move the aft external(s) to the forward torpedo room in the game? No. Did they during the real war? Yes. As I remember from one of my u-boat books, I think about Teddy Suhren, that it was quite a crazy feat. The worked the torpedo into a cradle on deck. Wrapped it in a bunch of life preservers, flooded the boat down to decks awash. Some of the crew in boats and others swimming actually towed the beast in the water to the other end of the boat. They then flooded down that end and worked the fish into the cradle and blew ballast to bring everything out of the water. Then they winched it up and lowered it into other torpedo room. Needless to say this kind of operation must have taken a LONG time and would only have been possible in some truly remote location. I have no idea how many boats even used their external torpedoes in the war. Took too much time and prevented diving if sighted. I think there were also concerns about the fish being reliable after long stowage in the external tubes. __________________ ...I fought in many guises, many names, but always me. Patton

03-05-12, 10:12 AM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	These are shots of torpedo transfers from a milk cow, but the principle is the same. As you can see it was not a job for the faint-of-heart. Did service boats carry the flotation devices to make a rear-to-front transfer? I don't know, but space was at a premium. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-05-12, 03:34 AM	#1
zygoma Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 84 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Move external spare torps aft to bow or vv? I'm sure it's happened to all the other noob (c'mon, everyone started out new here once, right?) where all the bow fish, including external spares, have been fired, or at least loaded into one or two bow tubes. Meanwhile, there are those coupl'a aft externals just sitting there (as well as the internal spares, if we had either a crane of infinite rope to use with blocks-and-tackle to drag their asses back up on deck. So.....are bow torpedoes forever destined to be shot only from bow tubes, and aft fish from aft tubes? While I can usually set up for a decent aft shot after an acute-angle approach at an oncoming merchant target, it's really slow to go for a follow-up shot with a Type VII boat. So, any (printable) ideas for the World's Oldest Noob (60 in a couple of days)? Tnx,73 and so mote it be, -.- .-.. --... .... -. -.--

03-05-12, 12:05 PM	#15
andwii Frogman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bridge of U-123 Posts: 300 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Very very nice pictures, love the pic of the doctor it reminds me of what my grandfather had to do when he was in the navy.