US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

If you want an intelligent conservative publication, "The Federalist" is a good choice. They have well written articles and bring up interesting subjects that more mainstream sites ignore.

Agreed and it is home to one of the best and smartest people in the media trade, Mollie Hemingway.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Well, as I see it, this opposition undermining the present president thing has been going on as long as I have been around. They were certainly doing it during the Nixon administration, Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obama. I think the big difference is the level of escalation.

I mean, during Clinton the Republicans were looking for any dirt they could find on Slick Willy. And they succeeded, maneuvering him right into a perjury trap. I don't feel one bit of remorse for Clinton, the patronizing, lying, woman abusing sob. But I will grant him this; he was much more centrist and willing to work with the right than Obama.

The Democrats undercut Bush II every chance they got.

The Republicans would not work with Obama, they neutered his presidency from the start (with good cause in many cases), even went so far as to deny his right to fill a Supreme Court vacancy, which even I think was brazen and wrong (but again, I have to admit I was happy about the outcome).

Trump brings a lot of this on himself, he does not try to smooth-talk or negotiate with his opponents. And that may be the right approach. But it certainly is leading us down a path to civil war: we have two equally sized sides in this country who are getting farther apart and less hindered by tact and civility. A powderkeg.

Trump will likely be the last Republican/conservative president, with the way the illegal immigration and watering down of American masculinity is going. And we conservatives will have to learn how to be a permanent minority, politically.

I think in the end, that will work out. I mean, we may have a couple generations of increasing poverty, having our lives managed by govt bureaucrats, and dependence on government, followed by a tougher generation who can see why our Founding Fathers decried tyranny and excessive government in the first place. I only wish I could be around for the Second American Revolution.

I concur that the aggressive nature to remove Trump since day one is unmatched. Even today, Trump beat the emoluments lawsuit brought on yet by the Democrats. It is relentless. Yet, the guy gets up everyday and does the job salary free.

The Clinton years I remember well. As a person I did not like him. As an individual who worked with others to get the job done, "balance the budget" and left the Oval Office in somewhat good standings, I liked him.

Obama was and never will be good for this country. I felt extremely stagnant for 8 years. He was in over his head and not prepared to run a country. It was auto-pilot as I see it. I believe Obama to be a greater divider than Trump will ever be.

I'm not sure by definition Trump is a Republican. But, I don't think he will be the last Republican(can't register as King). Say hello to Ivanka. Time for a woman president many are saying. Why the hell does it need to a woman who registered as a democrat?

As for your last paragraph, I concur with your prediction. Not sure about the next American Revolution. However, if you want to start penning a book about it let me know.

[AVGWarhawk]

Trump cleaning house after impeachment trail:

Vindman FIRED.

[Skybird]

Forseeable that the laws protecting whistelblowers would be ignored by the scum around Al Capone, but still saddening. Another piece of law and order being buried in a foggy night. The man did obey his legal obligations and followed the procedures for such cases. But maybe he should feel lucky that he escaped a knife in his back. So far at least.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51408704

Top Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer said the Pentagon had assured him in December that "patriots and whistleblowers" like Lt Col Vindman would be protected.
"Any reprisals against him or others who came forward to tell the truth are wrong and should be seen for what they are: An extension of President Trump's cover-up."
But Republican Congressman Thomas Massie said he would have fired Lt Col Vindman.
"He's a leaker, not a whistleblower," Mr Massie said. "Current Commander in Chief doesn't take orders from a Lt Col!"

Crappy comments from a crappy brain.



Amongst the first lessons any staff in the WH is being briefed on, is what a demand to blow the whistle is, and what to do when it applies, and what procedure has to be followed in order to do so, and that this procedure has the full guaranteed protection of the law and law enforcement.



Well. Laws are overrated. Lets ignore them.


Deeper and deeper into the dirt America slides.

[MaDef]

Amongst the first lessons any staff in the WH is being briefed on, is what a demand to blow the whistle is, and what to do when it applies, and what procedure has to be followed in order to do so, and that this procedure has the full guaranteed protection of the law and law enforcement.

First, being in the military, if you blow the "whistle" for any reason you better follow the chain of command, and if you do jump the chain of command, you better have all your ducks in a row, or you'll be seen as nothing more than a disgruntled employee.

Having been in the military, I've seen my share of members "go outside the chain of command" for redress, and more often than not once the dust settled they were transfer'd off the base either to civilian life or another command. Col. Vindman's treatment is not extraordinary. Odds are he will announce his retirement in the near future.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Trump cleaning house after impeachment trail:

Vindman FIRED.

And much joy is had.

[AVGWarhawk]

So goes another democratic debate. Not one US flag on stage. What group is pushing the divide in this country? Trump? I think not. That started during Obama's tenure. Mr. Autopilot. Nice to see at least one had an issue with a democratic socialist running.

[Buddahaid]

See the difference between class and trash.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...0&action=click

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

See the difference between class and trash.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...0&action=click

Hold on! You actually think Bill was sincere? You fell for that? You realize he was employing a strategy of getting people off his back, no?

Boy, he's good! Don't feel bad, I voted for him in 1991

[Buddahaid]

Sincere, or not, the message was one of healing, and unity, and it WAS good. Trump's message was a big middle finger and Bronx cheer. No class, no appeal to Americans' to put differences aside and work together in the aftermath. Just spit, venom, ego, and no more sincere than a snake oil salesman's pitch.

[Rockstar]

get busted for infidelities, adultery and lying to congress. but thats OK because he's such a smooth talking classy guy.


healing and unity? guess somebody should have thought of that before they went forward with this boondoggle, dont ya think?

[Buddahaid]

They all should have including, and most importantly, the president. But that is something beyond his shallowness and what will define his presidency, or at least strongly influence his legacy.

Trump has no moral high ground as far as his relationships are concerned, maybe even less.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

They all should have including, and most importantly, the president. But that is something beyond his shallowness and what will define his presidency, or at least strongly influence his legacy.

Trump has no moral high ground as far as his relationships are concerned, maybe even less.

If you believe that, I've got some ocean front property in Arizona for sale.

[Buddahaid]

Nice try, I have two properties close enough already. Yours are subject to a property inspection report as regards to value.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Sincere, or not, the message was one of healing, and unity, and it WAS good. Trump's message was a big middle finger and Bronx cheer. No class, no appeal to Americans' to put differences aside and work together in the aftermath. Just spit, venom, ego, and no more sincere than a snake oil salesman's pitch.

Exactly what is needed to run a country. Appears to be working with his approval rating at 49 percent. Keep on spitting the venom.