Wuhan virus 2020

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Consider the following - average suicide rate in Russia is 5-20 per year per 100k people.

There are more than 100k medics in Russia working on COVID-19/SARS-2 and they are overworked and stressed out.

Now the question is - why only 3 suicides are reported when statistically speaking we would expect more.

"Reports said two of the doctors had protested their working conditions and the third was being blamed after her colleagues contracted the virus.

Across Russia, doctors have decried shortages of protective equipment and questionable infection control procedures at dozens of hospitals, with many saying they have been threatened with dismissal or even prosecution for going public with their grievances."

Now there is stress and strain of course, but doctors and people of certain groups seldomly commit suicide. Also it seems the conditions under they died/vanished are a bit obscure. There are also other details in other news about that.
(Other famous examples of real or attempted suicide might be Litvinenko and Skripal?).

Every absolutist régime tries to silence those who do not align with the official thinking, might remember of what China did to doctors who tried to make the covid case public already in 2019. If someone makes the dictator umm sorry of course i mean: "The democratically elected 'president'" (tm) look bad, silence him.

[Catfish]

What the virus does to the human body. How Covid-19 kills (Google translate)

Just a flu, reopen business everywhere. This is wishful thinking, not taking responsibilty, and borders to mass murder.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

The pandemic has unleashed a "tsunami of hate and xenophobia" which needs to be defeated, says the UN's chief.

Anti-foreigner sentiment is surging, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories are spreading and anti-Muslim attacks have occurred, he says.

Europe marks 75th anniversary of VE Day under lockdown, with the Royal Family leading tributes in the UK.

Australian PM Scott Morrison announces plan to reopen the country - starting with gatherings of 10 people.

Brazil's Economy Minister Paulo Guedes warns of economic collapse if lockdowns continue.

India's operation to bring home 200,000 people home on special flights is under way.

The UK is considering some "modest" easing of lockdown measures.

Global confirmed cases of Covid-19 stand at 3.8m with 268,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

There are plans to increase train services from Monday 18 May across the UK, in preparation for the eventual easing of travel restrictions.

French President Emmanuel Macron has attended a ceremony on the Champs Elysées in Paris to mark VE Day.

German exports plummeted 11.8% in March. The worst month-on-month fall since reunification in 1990 is being blamed on the pandemic.

Madrid's public health chief Yolanda Fuentes has resigned in protest against the Spanish capital's bid to start lifting its lockdown from Monday. Madrid has seen more Covid-19 fatalities than other areas of Spain but the rate of infection has declined.

Russia has declared another 10,669 infections in the past 24 hours - the sixth consecutive day that the number has been above 10,000

Denmark's announced a roadmap for ending its lockdown. It started lifting restrictions back in April and has now said professional sport can resume behind closed doors and shopping centres can reopen from Monday.

Serbia lifted its state of emergency on Thursday and last night police arrested over 100 people involved in a political protest outside the office of President Aleksandar Vucic.

The Indian Navy has begun evacuating more than 700 citizens from the Maldives as part of the country's big repatriation mission to bring thousands of Indians stuck abroad home.

[Jimbuna]

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Catfish

"Reports said two of the doctors had protested their working conditions and the third was being blamed after her colleagues contracted the virus.

Across Russia, doctors have decried shortages of protective equipment and questionable infection control procedures at dozens of hospitals, with many saying they have been threatened with dismissal or even prosecution for going public with their grievances."

Now there is stress and strain of course, but doctors and people of certain groups seldomly commit suicide. Also it seems the conditions under they died/vanished are a bit obscure. There are also other details in other news about that.
(Other famous examples of real or attempted suicide might be Litvinenko and Skripal?).

Every absolutist régime tries to silence those who do not align with the official thinking, might remember of what China did to doctors who tried to make the covid case public already in 2019. If someone makes the dictator umm sorry of course i mean: "The democratically elected 'president'" (tm) look bad, silence him.

I would agree that all such cases should be properly investigated, it just that I am cynical about media reporting. Few weeks ago they would be reporting on the cover up, now that this is no longer sensible to do (because we do see Europe like growth in cases) they have shifted to discussing how the evil regime is murdering doctors, in a few weeks it would be something else.


As to the PPE reserves - they are strongly region dependent, some regions have enacted state of emergency and released their stockpiles, some didn't, some have a good procurement program and some don't and so on. I would expect some regional governors to get the stick for incomptence after this.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

There are plans to increase train services from Monday 18 May across the UK, in preparation for the eventual easing of travel restrictions.

French President Emmanuel Macron has attended a ceremony on the Champs Elysées in Paris to mark VE Day.

German exports plummeted 11.8% in March. The worst month-on-month fall since reunification in 1990 is being blamed on the pandemic.

Madrid's public health chief Yolanda Fuentes has resigned in protest against the Spanish capital's bid to start lifting its lockdown from Monday. Madrid has seen more Covid-19 fatalities than other areas of Spain but the rate of infection has declined.

Russia has declared another 10,669 infections in the past 24 hours - the sixth consecutive day that the number has been above 10,000

Denmark's announced a roadmap for ending its lockdown. It started lifting restrictions back in April and has now said professional sport can resume behind closed doors and shopping centres can reopen from Monday.

Serbia lifted its state of emergency on Thursday and last night police arrested over 100 people involved in a political protest outside the office of President Aleksandar Vucic.

The Indian Navy has begun evacuating more than 700 citizens from the Maldives as part of the country's big repatriation mission to bring thousands of Indians stuck abroad home.

Yep, we have joined the great power competition.

Yandex has a neat stat page:
https://yandex.ru/covid19/stat

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Catfish

What the virus does to the human body. How Covid-19 kills (Google translate)

Just a flu, reopen business everywhere. This is wishful thinking, not taking responsibility, and borders to mass murder.

People are rebelling against the stay at home orders, protesting in large numbers (which we are allowed to do in America).

I am happy staying at home I've never been this prepared in fact, but I even have friends that think this is a scam making them stay home. They had jobs and now they don't ... no job, no pay check, no pay check, no rent paid, children hungry, cell phones being silenced, family squabbles, child molestation, thieves breaking in to closed business and taking (are you ready for this) the cash register with no cash in it.

It's a real problem and borders on mayhem to open or not to open ... the people want things to be the way they were and this will not happen.

Now we wait to see the numbers increase or decrease even with social distancing and wearing mask I see law suits a plenty with finger pointing and blaming the administration.

What do you think will happen?

[Jimbuna]

Give it another month tops and I reckon there'll be more than the US feeling the backlash of the public.

[Mr Quatro]

[Jimbuna]

^Only five posts above yours.

[Jimbuna]

Italy becomes the third country in the world with more than 30,000 deaths
US jobless rate rises to 14.7% - the highest level since World War Two.

New UK lockdown rules to be announced on Sunday night but "no dramatic change" expected.

The pandemic has unleashed a "tsunami of hate and xenophobia" which needs to be defeated, says the UN's chief.

Europe marks 75th anniversary of VE Day under lockdown, with the Royal Family leading tributes in the UK.

It could take a year to determine the exact origins of the coronavirus, the WHO says.

Global confirmed cases of Covid-19 stand at 3.8m with 268,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

[Aktungbby]

This is disgusting even by Russian standards: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/europe/russia-medical-workers-windows-intl/index.html

Three frontline health care workers have mysteriously fallen out of hospital windows in Russia over the past two weeks, heightening public attention to the working conditions for doctors and medical professionals amid the coronavirus pandemic. Two of those health care workers are dead, and one remains hospitalized.
All three incidents, which are being investigated by Russian law enforcement authorities, have prompted intense discussion in the Russian press and on social media.
Alexander Shulepov, an ambulance doctor in Voronezh, a city about 320 miles south of Moscow, is in serious condition after falling from a hospital window on Saturday. Local state television, citing regional health officials, said he fell out of second-floor window of the Novousmanskaya hospital, where he worked and was receiving treatment after testing positive for coronavirus. EDIT:He has since died...in Mother Russia, perhaps 'dissent is an underlying condition'
Shulepov was hospitalized for coronavirus on April 22, the same day he and his colleague Alexander Kosyakin posted a video online saying that Shulepov had been forced to continue working after testing positive for coronavirus.
Kosyakin had previously criticized hospital administration for protective gear shortages on his social media and was questioned by the police for allegedly spreading fake news.
Local TV station TVK Krasnoyarsk reported at the time that Nepomnyashchaya allegedly fell out of a window during a meeting with regional health officials, during which they discussed turning the clinic into a coronavirus facility.
Nepomnyashchaya was reported to have opposed those changes due to the lack of protective gear in the hospital. The Health Ministry's regional health department denied the allegations in a statement, adding that the hospital is in "reserve" for coronavirus patients and its staff has been trained and equipped. The hospital did not respond to CNN's requests for comment.
On April 24, Natalya Lebedeva, head of the emergency medical service at Star City, the main training base for Russia's cosmonauts, died in a hospital after a fall. The hospital within the Federal Biomedical Agency, which says it treated her for suspected coronavirus, released a statement that "a tragic accident" occurred, without elaborating. The hospital did not respond to CNN's request for comment.
In the statement, the hospital said, "She was a true professional in her field, saving human lives every day!"
Anastasia Vasilyeva, the head of Alliance of Doctors union, told CNN she did not think anyone was deliberately targeting doctors. The incidents, she said, likely reflect the stress doctors are under in an underfunded system during a pandemic.
"This is really about the destruction of our health care system," said Vasilyeva, who has been a prominent critic of the government's approach to combating coronavirus. "A lot of clinics and hospitals have been closed ... And, of course, this means it is very difficult to treat in such conditions a lot of patients with coronavirus."

Talk about getting 'a window' into Russia's pandemic problem!