UK Politics Thread part II

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Rishi Sunak says he's the candidate best-placed to beat Labour in a general election, and suggests Liz Truss would lose to Keir Starmer.

Speaking to LBC, he reiterated his plans to cut personal taxes once inflation is more manageable, saying it was important to be honest about the challenges the country faces.

He also said he averted a national lockdown last December due to the omicron variant when he argued successfully against it.

Earlier, Liz Truss told the BBC the consensus on economic policy over the last 20 years had not delivered growth, as she pledged to make tax cuts.

In YouGov's latest poll, Truss is leading Sunak by 62% to 38% among Tory members, a 24-point lead.

The winner of the leadership race will be announced on 5 September, with Boris Johnson in charge until then.

The Democrat Party, "aka The across the ocean Leaders of The New world Order in collusion With the Chinese Communist Party" Has decided that Lizz Truss Will become the next PM. Until the real elections are held and. Then the sheep will elect Keir Starmer. Here in America the buzz is this man is the future of the U.K. And he will stand by the U.S. for however long and it doesn't matter many young British soldiers or maybe even all of the Uk. For the Ukraine and your Island's could disappear from this planet. if that's what it takes to Defeat.Those evil Russians! Look at the U.N torn between two lovers one of power and one of fear. And to many sheep on this planet.And there must be an Enemy. I'm sorry i poked my finger in my eye and i can't see anything.

[Moonlight]

These are the ones the candidates have to impress as they will be the people electing the next PM, if they screw up in front of these Tory Members tonight then their cause will hit a brick wall, there will be other opportunities, but this is where "First Impressions" will really count in their favour.

Rishi Sunak unveils controversial plan to BAN homes from being built in green belt countryside in bid to woo back Tory heartlands despite the UK's housing crisis as the leadership rivals face their first test in front of party members TONIGHT

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...reen-belt.html

[Jimbuna]

Thatcher reminded me of Churchill, a leader you could rely on in times of crisis, not like the fool we currently have in No10

She did have her faults but what politician hasn't?

[Jimbuna]

Heaven forbid this should be true (despite the source)

Boris Johnson allies plotting to find safe Tory seat for PM to launch comeback

Senior sources claimed Mr Johnson was “testing the water” over moving to a constituency with a much larger Conservative majority amid fears he is in danger of losing his own seat of Uxbridge at the next General Election.

Recent polls have suggested he could be in danger of losing his own seat of Uxbridge, where he has a majority of just 7,210, at the next general election.

The PM is understood to want to remain on the back benches and there have been reports he hopes to stage a political comeback with another bid for No 10.

One insider even suggested Mr Johnson’s allies were prepared to offer honours - including knighthoods and peerages - to loyalist MPs and Tory veterans in safe seats who might contemplate retirement.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-find-27594449

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Heaven forbid this should be true (despite the source)

Looks like he will do a Nixon

Markus

[Jimbuna]

He will do what benefits himself most, always has done and always will do.

[Moonlight]

Meanwhile, in the Labour Party ranks the two sides are sniping at each other again.

Unions react angrily to sacking of Labour shadow minister Sam Tarry
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62329521

They all know that sooner or later a Labour split by the Lefties is coming, the question is, when?, even if they do split then both sides know that they couldn't muster up enough MPs to win a General Election inside the next 20 years. Angela Rayner is constantly testing the water, Starmer can't fire her so she's using her boyfriend as a weapon to create some strife, a thoroughly despicable bitch if ever I saw one.
So, they're stuck in this stalemate they've created for themselves, screwed if they do and screwed if they don't. They both want rid of the other side but it's going to create Political Suicide for them if they do, what a shambolic Shadow Government this country has got, get it over with and do it you idiots.

[Jimbuna]

Rare indeed to see so much truth from Labour.

Former Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell has accused Labour of treating a Jewish group within the party "brutally".

Last week a report on Labour's handling of the anti-Semitism row under Jeremy Corbyn found supporters and critics had used it as a "factional weapon".

Mr McDonnell claims the report shows the party used its disciplinary procedures to target members of the pro-Corbyn Jewish Voice for Labour (JVL)

He said a disproportionate number of JVL members had been disciplined, suspended and expelled from the party.

Members of the group were up to 35 times more likely to face anti-Semitism investigations than other, mostly non-Jewish, Labour members, he claimed.

The JVL says it stands for "rights and justice for Jewish people everywhere, and against wrongs and injustice to Palestinians and other oppressed people anywhere".

Barrister Martin Forde QC was asked by the party to chair an inquiry into the contents and leaking of an internal Labour dossier in 2020.

He concluded factionalism was "endemic" within the party and the issue of anti-Semitism was weaponised by both sides, not just the right.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62319342

[Jimbuna]

[Moonlight]

Rishi Sunak has been given a smack in the kisser from the Members who are the only ones allowed to vote on who is going to be their next leader. All that privilege and wealth doesn't mean a damn thing to these pillocks Rishi, and if you dare to throw the race card into the mix you'll go down faster than the Titanic.

I'll say it again so even a dickhead like you can understand it, "they want to know how much money they are going to save under your government" do you get it now?, so forget your grand inflation ideas as these folk will just tell you to "bollocks" and vote for Liz Truss who knows what they want.

Can you remember that ABBA song Rishi, NO, no, no, not the "Dancing Queen" you stupid pillock but that other one "Money Money Money" at last, I think he's getting it, fire some of your advisers as they're as clueless as you are and start all over again.

[Jimbuna]

It wasn't quite as big a crowd as you get on a Saturday afternoon, but it was a big one nonetheless.

The first Conservative leadership hustings for party members took place at Elland Road in Leeds last night.

About 1,500 party members turned up to hear from Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss and put their questions.

We got a smorgasbord of policy questions. Not just the economy and integrity.

Rishi Sunak was asked if he was in favour of more grammar schools in England. He said yes, although his team said afterwards he meant the expansion of existing ones.

Liz Truss was asked about single-sex toilets in schools, amid the rows about transgender rows. She strongly defended what she saw as the need for women and girls to be protected.

The welfare of greyhounds, the future of inheritance tax, the welfare state, the future of the UK union, the questions flowed.

A couple of observations: Liz Truss seemed to energise more of the audience more of the time than Rishi Sunak. Her pitch was more targeted at the West Yorkshire crowd than Rishi Sunak's.

And there was definitely a respect for Boris Johnson in the room - with outbreaks of applause for him whenever his time as prime minister was mentioned.

This matters, because it wounds Rishi Sunak - and Team Truss is trying to harvest that Johnson loyalism and translate it into support for her. One audience member accused Mr Sunak of "stabbing" the prime minister "in the back" and questioning which "planet he was on".

And Liz Truss went out of her way to emphasise her loyalty to Mr Johnson and her respect for him. And she's landed a big new endorsement - the Defence Secretary Ben Wallace.

Speaking to Conservative activists, they are well aware of the awesome responsibility on their shoulders, selecting a prime minister on behalf of us all.

As things stand, Liz Truss is the firm favourite - and both she and her team seem to be growing into the role of being frontrunners and appear to be growing in confidence with every passing day.

But, but, but remember not a single vote has yet been cast. Ballot papers go out in the post in the next week. And there are 11 more hustings to go.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62342965

[Jimbuna]

Truss promises increased military aid to Ukraine if she becomes British prime minister

British Foreign Minister Liz Truss has announced an increased military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine if she becomes the country's prime minister.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Reuters.

She also intends to make her first call in her new position to the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky.

"As Prime Minister, I will be Ukraine's best friend, follow in Boris Johnson's footsteps, and fully commit to ensuring that Putin fails in Ukraine and suffers a strategic defeat," Truss said.

According to her, the war in Ukraine is far from over and now is not the time to think about concessions and compromises with the President of the Russian Federation.

Truss is leading in opinion polls among members of the Conservative Party, who have to decide who will become the next prime minister of Great Britain.

[Skybird]

Rumour has it that tomorrow Wembley Stadium could become the starting location of another war in Europe between two old enemies...
"England with home advantage? They'll be surprised when Olaf Scholz, the man who sets the mood, starts to whip up the German fan block!"

[Jimbuna]

Should be a good game, both teams appear to be evenly matched.

[blackswan40]

Leeds as always had transport problems train station just off city square in the town centre and the bus station at the other end of town.
Leeds has been promished a supertram system on three seperate ocasions and each time its been knocked back due to ever increasing costs the nearest leeds got was the steel posts being erected in middleton belle isle and hunslet in the mid 90's.