US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[bstanko6]

Making more fun?

I’m asking a serious question.

[Sonicfire1981]

here's from a european: you're far better off without that president. The us in particular,and the world as a whole. The reasons are manyfold, let me just drop "inf" and "clear skies" in the ring and how much healthier it is to have less countries with nuclear arsenal. Ask the kurds how important it is to have reliable allies... just from the top of my head and from a geopolitical standpoint.
Let's not talk about his personality, let me just say he reminds me more of a four-year-old, he's a pathological liar and cares for nothing but himself (why did he stop pardoning criminals just as he found out that he can't pardon himself?).

One thing Biden will do better (apart from not being trump) is economically focusing on renewable energy. It's fast growing industry with a huge vacant market and frankly there will be not enough left to sustain a fossil industry in 80 years tops.
If you want more I need to do a quick research

[Rockstar]

This is why the military has been mobilized.

The military has been mobilized because certain groups of people (sans the peaceful assemblies) want to trash a constitutional and lawful process of how things have been done for well over two hundred years.

People feel like they aren’t being taken seriously.

Do what that poor fella in California is doing collect the signatures and make the changes the right, lawful and acceptable way.

So they lash out and do crazy things. Politics should be discussed in a back and forth way. I have asked more than several times for anyone here to give me a comprehensive plan Biden has pitched during the campaign that was better than Trumps... so I can review it. No one has been able to do that.

Our constitutional right is the freedom to peaceably assemble. Lashing out and doing crazy things because "nobody told me" is not in anyway shape or form and excuse to harm life or property nor is it a constitutional right. Its just shows people like that are lazy with no real interest in anything other than to cause strife and animosity.

I get made fun of, when you guys put a blind man in the driver seat of a car.

And rightfully so. Just because you haven't put in the time and effort to look for yourself what Biden's plans for the future might be doesn't mean everyone else should have to suffer for it. Like I said above 'nobody told me' isn't an excuse for bad behavior.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Sonicfire1981

here's from a european: you're far better off without that president. The us in particular,and the world as a whole. The reasons are manyfold, let me just drop "inf" and "clear skies" in the ring and how much healthier it is to have less countries with nuclear arsenal. Ask the kurds how important it is to have reliable allies... just from the top of my head and from a geopolitical standpoint.
Let's not talk about his personality, let me just say he reminds me more of a four-year-old, he's a pathological liar and cares for nothing but himself (why did he stop pardoning criminals just as he found out that he can't pardon himself?).

I believe this came up before. There are several Kurd factions and of these Kurd factions some aren't even all that friendly towards each other. So before we start again about how Trump abandoned those poor Kurds. We should clarify which ones we are talking about. Some Kurds we support others we do do not. Just last December we were asked by the Iraqi Kurds ,whom incidentally we do support, to help patrol their borders with Syria and against those Syrian Kurd factions which neither we or the Iraqi Kurds support

One thing Biden will do better (apart from not being trump) is economically focusing on renewable energy. It's fast growing industry with a huge vacant market and frankly there will be not enough left to sustain a fossil industry in 80 years tops. ...

No doubt it is a very fast growing industry. So much so, that regardless of how Trump may think of it. Renewable energy is a top investment category here in the U.S. I'm into Graphene and Superconductors

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Sonicfire1981

here's from a european: you're far better off without that president. The us in particular,and the world as a whole. The reasons are manyfold, let me just drop "inf" and "clear skies" in the ring and how much healthier it is to have less countries with nuclear arsenal. Ask the kurds how important it is to have reliable allies... just from the top of my head and from a geopolitical standpoint.
Let's not talk about his personality, let me just say he reminds me more of a four-year-old, he's a pathological liar and cares for nothing but himself (why did he stop pardoning criminals just as he found out that he can't pardon himself?).

One thing Biden will do better (apart from not being trump) is economically focusing on renewable energy. It's fast growing industry with a huge vacant market and frankly there will be not enough left to sustain a fossil industry in 80 years tops.
If you want more I need to do a quick research

Two trillion tax dollars down the drain except for the payroll of course of which some will come back for sure to the economy ...

Only God can change the weather for better not man

Biden first day in office is to rejoin the Paris accord agreement which allows China and India to keep using coal while USA has to stop and one more small item Biden is going to do.

Take the Muslim's off the no fly list

[bstanko6]

Sonicfire.... thank you!

You are literally the only person who answered my question! That is an Example of a helpful person.

And no Rockstar I couldn’t find what Biden wanted to do because he never campaigned with it! All he did was slam Trump!

I been a silent paying member for a long time, in good standing. Never budding in to your guys conversation. Listening and watching.

I even got an award for helping others and that’s not to brag.

I came to this thread to get a better understanding of why people would pick Joe Biden over Trump. Trump doesn’t bother me because he exercise his first amendment speech. I don’t care that he rants and raves. But people here in the thread are slamming my president when their future president has nothing to offer. And they slam me because I choose to speak about merit over humans being imperfect. Yes Trump is imperfect!

So guys like SONICFIRE who gives me some thing other than just smart ass comments and “he’s better than Trump” thank you! I appreciate that!

[Wolferz]

To those I've poked fun at I apologize if you consider it an insult.
I just get a little sarcastic when I see stupidity because I learned long ago that I can't fix stupid, I also learned that "insult" can't be given unless it is taken.
Dropping another pearl in the ocean here too.
You can't see the American dream unless you're asleep.
WAke up!
Way too many people suffering from Cranial-Rectal Syndrome
Which is easily remedied by bending over as far as you can, firmly grasping both shoulders and pulling until you hear a loud pop! (The sound of your head coming out of your evacuation port)
If I can do it, anybody can.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

So, has anyone mentioned Trump possibly selling pardons, yet?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/u...p-pardons.html

[mapuc]

In the news here in Denmark they had interviewet This woman's family and they was very critical towards Trump-They said he was guilty for her death.

This made me sad...Yes Trump has a lot to stand trial for. But this female was old enough to know what she was doing and should have known the risk involved when trying to break into a government building-So this dead how tragic it may sound can only be her own fault.

(Sorry but this is how I see it)

Markus

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

So before we start again about how Trump abandoned those poor Kurds. We should clarify which ones we are talking about. Some Kurds we support others we do do not.

Well those that helped in syria and were left alone as turkey campaigned against them. My point wasn't the kurds specifically, but how reliable the US has been as an ally in the last 4 years. Pretty sure you debated Iraq and Afghanistan as well. it's fine, I won't insist on specifics but will point out that the US lost a fair amount of credibility & reliability. Many would not even have been surprised if the US split from NATO, because it's not a good deal for trump or a good deal but not made by trump and therefore would need to go (like the Iran deal).

But actually I was in all honesty trying to answer the trumpeteers question what Joe Biden would do better. From an external standpoint.

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

And they slam me because I choose to speak about merit over humans being imperfect. Yes Trump is imperfect!

But he's not even trying. I can't recall him taking responsibility for .. anything.

So guys like SONICFIRE who gives me some thing other than just smart ass comments and “he’s better than Trump” thank you! I appreciate that!

So are you cured then?

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

To those I've poked fun at I apologize if you consider it an insult.
I just get a little sarcastic when I see stupidity because I learned long ago that I can't fix stupid, I also learned that "insult" can't be given unless it is taken.
Dropping another pearl in the ocean here too.
You can't see the American dream unless you're asleep.
WAke up!
Way too many people suffering from Cranial-Rectal Syndrome
Which is easily remedied by bending over as far as you can, firmly grasping both shoulders and pulling until you hear a loud pop! (The sound of your head coming out of your evacuation port)
If I can do it, anybody can.

...don't apologise; just ask the moderator to move this thread to "the bilge" to save bandwidth! "The business of 'Merika is business"(Silent Cal Coolidge) so Aricept sales will be up with Joeschmo B. Viagra sales will be down W/O "Stormy Donald Frump" and Corona virus vaccine...(2 shots each!!??) will enrich the the drug industry even as Prohibition enriched the Cosa Nostra. Perhaps Honest Abe Linkum was right "We should apologise to her majesty( E.R. II) and beg to be taken back"...the experiment in Democratic equality having failed miserably!

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex...h=79ffb357ed11

"Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease"

"Trump has other financial connections to China. The New York Times revealed Tuesday that the U.S. president has a bank account in China. His daughter, Ivanka Trump, received 41 Chinese trademarks from the time she was appointed a White House adviser in March 2017 to April 2019, according to an analysis of documents. The review also showed that the trademarks Ivanka applied for after her father’s inauguration got approved about 40% faster than those she sought out beforehand."

Interesting how bstanko6 completely ignored this post...

Well, I presume he ignored this post.

Forbes isn't exactly a mouthpiece for the Democrats..

[u crank]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

I came to this thread to get a better understanding of why people would pick Joe Biden over Trump.

Apparently it had something to do with his behavior.

Trump doesn’t bother me because he exercise his first amendment speech.

You're only one person. In many ways Trump was the author of his own demise. He and maybe you couldn't see that what you say and how you say it is as important as what you do ... if you are the President. Maybe you don't care but obviously a lot of people did.

But people here in the thread are slamming my president when their future president has nothing to offer.

That is the nature of politics. What Biden is offering most likely isn't to your liking but the same can be said about Trump when he came into office. And what Joe Biden and the Democrats are offering is not a secret. It is easily found if you try.

[bstanko6]

@sonicfire....

No he really hasn’t taken responsibility. But In my opinion, he most likely doesn’t care...

Look at it this way, he was never taken serious during the run for presidency. After 19 minutes of being elected as president, the Democrats filed an impeachment against him, they did nothing to work with him, his own party made fun of him before he got into office.

I admire Trump because he was attacked on all sides for four long years. Social media and mainstream media were completely terrible towards him. The man was given no Quarter at any point during his political career. Why would he care about what other people think?

When I was in the military, and now as a police officer, I was always told that you’re only as good as the weakest member in your team. So that meant we have to build up a person in order to make them better. No one even tried to help trump become a better person, much less a better president!

Pelosi offered no assistance or compromise. Mitch McConnell was nowhere to be found to assist Trump in any of his dealings, well the bare minimum.

Any appointments, or comments, or any philosophies Trump made was always met with racism, sexism, or some kind of “ism” that no one likes.

Katie Rich from Saturday night live was attacking his little son Baron. Calling him names and things like he’s the next school shooter!

When he killed that terrorist with a drone strike he was called a monster. I can’t reMember the guys name. But apparently he was a big shot caller.

They made it personal against him.

They politically assassinated his career before it even took off. So I kind of see where he’s coming from where he just doesn’t give a damn.

And before people saying that he killed his own career… We voted for him the way he was and it was a landslide. People knew what they were getting when they voted trump in office.