SH4 ATO Vs SH3 GWX

MK2 · 10-20-09, 11:02 PM

I did a search for this subject so I apologize in advance for not finding it (I am sure its been talked about at length)

Ok... I got operation Monsoon V705,V715A, Patched and hotfixed with OMEGU V210 + hotfix

I also got SH3 GWX Gold installed and working.

I am mostly playing SH4 TMO 1.7 right now (just started with this series a few weeks ago).

I might want to try some U-boat action this weekend, what should I take a crack at first? I messed around with SH3 and of course the graphics seem to be better with SH4 ATO. I also noticed cool stuff like SH3 commander for SH3 GWX etc. I can find my way around both GUIs so far....

So what is the general consensus?

Wilcke · 10-21-09, 09:44 AM

Play both for about 6 months then give us your opinion. Both have something for everyone.

AVGWarhawk · 10-21-09, 11:07 AM

All are great on their own merits. Flip a coin to choose...none will let you down.

Sailor Steve · 10-21-09, 12:06 PM

SH3 with GWX and Commander gives a lot more graphic feel for the harbors and such, and a lot more options for crew names, ship names and all the things that make for better immersion.

SH4 with Ops Monsun gives a better looking crew and more of them, along with better looking everything else, longitute and latitude on the maps as well as more detailed grid locations, more realistic crew management (they actually change watch all by themselves), as well as more stability and much faster loading times.

Both have their advantages, and both have their problems. For that reason I switch back and forth on a fairly regular basis.

Oops, waffling again.

Akula4745 · 10-21-09, 06:57 PM

I have always wanted to try SH3 with GWX Gold... even more so now that there will be no GWX for SH4. Eventually I will give it a couple of patrols just to get the feel... I hear it is spectacular from a details point of view. But for now Ops Monsun in SH4 is my playground.

Sailor Steve · 10-23-09, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

SH4...as well as more stability and much faster loading times.

I've recieved a couple of questions as to what I meant when I said that SH4 was a little more stable than SH3 with GWX. I was referring to SH3, which has stability problems no matter what mods you use, sometimes crashing for no apparent reason.

This wasn't meant as a slight to my favorite supermod.

Wijbrandus · 10-24-09, 12:51 AM

I've played SH3/GWX since GWX 1.0. It's a most excellent mod.

That said, since I started with Ops Monsun, SH3 is no longer taking up valuable space on my hard drive.

SH4/Ops Monsun ROCKS.

Faamecanic · 10-27-09, 10:30 AM

Forgive my ignorance here.... but I havent touched SH4 since sonn after patch 1.4 came out and I felt very let down by the bugs still in it...

What is Ops Monsoon? Is that the TMO mod 1.8? or different mod?

I want to play SH4 again now that some major mods are released but have no idea which major mod to play... I would play every one of them except I only have a few hours a week to play due to work and family.

What wouyld you guys suggest?

And to the original poster... GWX Gold is WONDERFUL...but to compare GWX or even SH3 vanilla to SH 4 is unfair to both. If you love subsims...as I do...PLAY BOTH

Sailor Steve · 10-27-09, 01:39 PM

OM is Operation Monsun, Lurker's u-boat-specific mod for the U-Boat Add-On. It gives a great campaign involving all u-boat types, and plays quite well. His latest combinations are the OMEGU series, which give greater improvements, especially to the environment.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1097
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1335
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1350
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1336

All of Lurker's mods contain links to the threads discussing them.

Ducimus · 10-27-09, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Faamecanic

Forgive my ignorance here.... but I havent touched SH4 since sonn after patch 1.4 came out and I felt very let down by the bugs still in it...

What is Ops Monsoon? Is that the TMO mod 1.8? or different mod?

I want to play SH4 again now that some major mods are released but have no idea which major mod to play...

Your supermod for Uboats is Operation Monsoon. It has versions that can be ran with RFB or TMO.

RFB and TMO are primarly fleet boat supermods, and don't touch the uboat game that much.

RSRD is a PTO campaign mod that can be ran with stock, RFB, or TMO.

10-20-09, 11:02 PM	#1
MK2 Loader Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 81 Downloads: 205 Uploads: 0	SH4 ATO Vs SH3 GWX I did a search for this subject so I apologize in advance for not finding it (I am sure its been talked about at length) Ok... I got operation Monsoon V705,V715A, Patched and hotfixed with OMEGU V210 + hotfix I also got SH3 GWX Gold installed and working. I am mostly playing SH4 TMO 1.7 right now (just started with this series a few weeks ago). I might want to try some U-boat action this weekend, what should I take a crack at first? I messed around with SH3 and of course the graphics seem to be better with SH4 ATO. I also noticed cool stuff like SH3 commander for SH3 GWX etc. I can find my way around both GUIs so far.... So what is the general consensus?

10-21-09, 09:44 AM	#2
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	Play both for about 6 months then give us your opinion. Both have something for everyone. __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

10-21-09, 11:07 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	All are great on their own merits. Flip a coin to choose...none will let you down. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-21-09, 12:06 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	SH3 with GWX and Commander gives a lot more graphic feel for the harbors and such, and a lot more options for crew names, ship names and all the things that make for better immersion. SH4 with Ops Monsun gives a better looking crew and more of them, along with better looking everything else, longitute and latitude on the maps as well as more detailed grid locations, more realistic crew management (they actually change watch all by themselves), as well as more stability and much faster loading times. Both have their advantages, and both have their problems. For that reason I switch back and forth on a fairly regular basis. Oops, waffling again. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-21-09, 06:57 PM	#5
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	I have always wanted to try SH3 with GWX Gold... even more so now that there will be no GWX for SH4. Eventually I will give it a couple of patrols just to get the feel... I hear it is spectacular from a details point of view. But for now Ops Monsun in SH4 is my playground. __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

10-24-09, 12:51 AM	#7
Wijbrandus Loader Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 83 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	I've played SH3/GWX since GWX 1.0. It's a most excellent mod. That said, since I started with Ops Monsun, SH3 is no longer taking up valuable space on my hard drive. SH4/Ops Monsun ROCKS.

10-27-09, 10:30 AM	#8
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Forgive my ignorance here.... but I havent touched SH4 since sonn after patch 1.4 came out and I felt very let down by the bugs still in it... What is Ops Monsoon? Is that the TMO mod 1.8? or different mod? I want to play SH4 again now that some major mods are released but have no idea which major mod to play... I would play every one of them except I only have a few hours a week to play due to work and family. What wouyld you guys suggest? And to the original poster... GWX Gold is WONDERFUL...but to compare GWX or even SH3 vanilla to SH 4 is unfair to both. If you love subsims...as I do...PLAY BOTH

10-27-09, 01:39 PM	#9
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	OM is Operation Monsun, Lurker's u-boat-specific mod for the U-Boat Add-On. It gives a great campaign involving all u-boat types, and plays quite well. His latest combinations are the OMEGU series, which give greater improvements, especially to the environment. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1097 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1335 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1350 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1336 All of Lurker's mods contain links to the threads discussing them. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo