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Old 02-05-19, 04:49 AM   #6541
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What I find amusing is that "Caucasian" in sounds like a person from Caucasus and those tend to be viewed as non white by ethnic nationalists.
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Old 02-05-19, 05:56 AM   #6542
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State of the Union, are you ready for more another step back? I am bracing for it. Trump, the Dems, someone likely to embarrass the people again....
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What I find amusing is that "Caucasian" in sounds like a person from Caucasus and those tend to be viewed as non white by ethnic nationalists.
True, but then "ethnic nationalists" are not exactly known for a scientific approach, critical perception or modern education. Which is why they can be so easily instrumentalized.


@Neal will be interesting what T. has to say, about the state
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Old 02-05-19, 09:32 AM   #6544
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State of the Union, are you ready for more another step back? I am bracing for it. Trump, the Dems, someone likely to embarrass the people again....
Pelosi blowing her nose in a hanky and making shocked smug funny faces whenever President Trump makes a reference to the wall he wants to build.

Lots of comedy material from both sides for Saturday Night live to work with
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"ethnic nationalists" are not exactly known for a scientific approach, critical perception or modern education. Which is why they can be so easily instrumentalized.

The arrogance of the above statement is breathtaking. What are your credentials that makes you such an authority over how people think and act?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Democrats.html

Stone-faced Nancy Pelosi


READS her way though Trump's State of the Union as he lectures Democrats on Mueller,
illegal immigration and 'socialism'


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Speaker Nancy Pelosi was visibly unamused during President Donald Trump's State of the Union speech Tuesday night

She bit her lips and pursed her lips when he mentioned ideas she disagrees with

At other times she read along with the president's remarks, holding up her print out of his speech in view behind him as he spoke on the dais before her

She did applaud some of his lines, particularly when he mentioned high employment for women

She drew almost more attention than Trump for her reactions to his remarks
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The arrogance of the above statement is breathtaking. What are your credentials that makes you such an authority over how people think and act?
It is (not only) my opinion that "ethnic nationalism" is nothing else than good old racism. Yes indeed, wanting to get rid of people who aren’t the same ethnicity as you is racist. Do you need to be told that?

And it is also my opinion that a modern, rational and well educated person is mostly non-racist. With a few exceptions – though those exceptions do not really believe in "ethnic nationalism"/racism, but rather use it to instrumentalize others who do.
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My personal opinion is that ethnic nationalism does not work for empires, as you want to promote people within institutions based on their merit, on their service to the country and not the ethnic group.


But then I do not like the "progressive" ideological groups like Greenpeace either.

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Environmental concerns in Russia? How funny
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Those are quite real, they are just not served by the organisations such as Greenpeace.
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It is (not only) my opinion that "ethnic nationalism" is nothing else than good old racism.
I think the word you (they) are looking for is good old discrimination.
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State of the Union, are you ready for more another step back? I am bracing for it. Trump, the Dems, someone likely to embarrass the people again....
So what do you all think about Trump's speech?
I thought it to be (relatively) reasonable, if not on all topics. I just wonder whether the call for uniting the nation will be followed by himself..
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So what do you all think about Trump's speech?
It was the usual blah blah.

The reactions of some of the Democrats though was priceless.
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I was surprised at some of the factchecking. Trump lied a lot less than I thought he would. I guess he had some real good speech writers who knew how to skirt close to the edges.
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