Realism- and gameplay-related hardcode fixes for SH3.EXE - Page 124

thestoon · 07-15-11, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

@FIREWALL: Great to hear that it (almost) seems to work for you now. If one once understands how patching works, it's easy in the future....

The problem you described above indicates that something went wrong with the en_menu.txt or de_menu.txt files which contain the new messages used by the hardcode fixes. These new messages can be found at the end of the appropriate files and must be appended to your files of your sh3 installation.

Stiebler very detailed described the procedure in a different thread you opened. I guess you made a little mistake. It seems that the new messages didn't find their way into your sh3-installation.

It seems you are not very experienced with PC's, but your experience will rise by this patching work.....

It could be that FIREWALL has a mod which is replacing his modified en_menu.txt with one that doesn't contain the updated messages.

If you use JSGME to install any mods then you must make the changes to the last mod which updates en_menu.txt or they will be wiped out when you install that mod.

On another note - h.sie, this is fantastic work. You sir, are a legend.

Wolfstriked · 07-15-11, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

I think this weekend we'll have a new version V15G2.

* Diving-times adjustable via Options-Selector
* TC switches back to 1 when using O2 supply from bottles
* Docking at U-Tanker possible 2 weeks after last docking
* BDU messages bugfix

Kool Beans

Whats up with the diving times adjustable via options?

FIREWALL · 07-15-11, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thestoon

It could be that FIREWALL has a mod which is replacing his modified en_menu.txt with one that doesn't contain the updated messages.

If you use JSGME to install any mods then you must make the changes to the last mod which updates en_menu.txt or they will be wiped out when you install that mod.

On another note - h.sie, this is fantastic work. You sir, are a legend.

While I know I made a mistake somewhere installing the mod. I tested it without any default GWX mods or any extra mods installed.

You would have known this if you read my DETAILED post. I don't mean to sound harsch thestoon but, it get's tireing reposting a repeat that I posted earlier.

thestoon · 07-16-11, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

While I know I made a mistake somewhere installing the mod. I tested it without any default GWX mods or any extra mods installed.

You would have known this if you read my DETAILED post. I don't mean to sound harsch thestoon but, it get's tireing reposting a repeat that I posted earlier.

You can sound as harsh as you like. I'll admit to skipping your posts on this thread. I only generally read the posts by h.sie here. My interest is in the patch, not peoples difficulties in installing it. It is his thread after all.

If i'd made that post in the thread specific to your issues, then you'd have cause for complaint - but not here.

Overall, it was a generic point, made without any consideration of your situation and not necessarily directed at you. It may not affect you personally, but its always advice worth repeating and it may help someone somewhere along the line.. Its something simple which can make things appear they aren't working correctly.

Anyway... moving on...

FIREWALL · 07-16-11, 11:14 PM

@ h,sie & Stiebler

Followed Stielber's well written instructions and saw my mistake.

Put in h,sie's patch into jsgme instead of Supplement jsgme.

The only mod conflict was Rafael's DSK Gui. Easy fix. I installed it manually.

The conflict de_menu and en_ menu.

Thx again you 2

I won't be around SubSim for awhile as I will be playing SH3\GWX and h.sie's Patch as the sim was meant to be played.

h.sie · 07-17-11, 03:58 AM

@FIREWALL; TheStoon:

Good to know it now works for you. Hope you like it!!

In my opinion, thestoon's comment was very constructive and helpful, because he exactly pointed out what people often do wrong. I should consider his words in the QuickManual. Thank you.

Kaleun Cook · 07-17-11, 10:59 AM

After a long break from SH3 I'm trying the latest beta version. Till now, everything works as advertised - also I didn't have any problems with the silent-running-sinking on my GWX installation.

h.sie · 07-17-11, 04:47 PM

Small Update V15G2 available for beta testing

Changes:

O2-Supply-Mod:

a) Since there was some disagreement regarding diving-times, Stieblers Options-Selector now contains 2 Sliders for individually fine-adjusting the diving-times resulting from the renewable and non-renewable oxygen component. Leave them unchanged at their default-values (1,0), if you are satisfied with the diving-times adjusted by LGN1 and me. Choose e.g. a factor of 2,0 in order to double the diving-time. For NYGM, Stiebler recommends values of 2.0 (renewable supply) and 10.0 (non-renewable supply, bottled air).

b) TC switches to 1 when oxygen is low and the LI starts to use botteled air supply.

U-Tanker-Mod: Docking at an U-Tanker now possible 2 weeks after the last docking at an U-Tanker (old value was 2 months).

BDU-Messages-Mod:

a) Bugfix ("Sink no neutrals"-Message at patrol start).

b) More random behaviour: After sinking a ship, you no more get a congratulation with 100% chance.

Known problem: "Sink no neutrals"-Message only works at patrol start when you have no tonnage sunk so far and sinking a neutral leads to negative tonnage.

Notes:

The Messages have not changed from V15G1 to V15G2. So if you already have V15G1: No need to fiddle around with en_menu.txt and de_menu.txt.

Differing from the Options-Selectors Help-File, V15G2 does not contain Stieblers "Surrender"-Mod.

NGT · 07-17-11, 05:05 PM

Thank you very much.

Very useful optimizations (for me...) permitting personalization of the game.

We can apply the Surrender mod patch (Stiebler patch)?

Robin40 · 07-18-11, 01:32 AM

Already patched to V15G1

Applied Supplemental

Do you repeat the same process to a sh3.old exe?

h.sie · 07-18-11, 02:02 AM

@NGT: See post #1853: No. But I'm sure, Stiebler will provide his "Surrender" Addon soon.

@Robin: Yes, always use the original sh3.exe as starting point for patching (has been renamed to sh3.old during an earlier patching process).

Magic1111 · 07-18-11, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

Small Update V15G2 available for beta testing

Changes:

O2-Supply-Mod:

a) Since there was some disagreement regarding diving-times, Stieblers Options-Selector now contains 2 Sliders for individually fine-adjusting the diving-times resulting from the renewable and non-renewable oxygen component. Leave them unchanged at their default-values (1,0), if you are satisfied with the diving-times adjusted by LGN1 and me. Choose e.g. a factor of 2,0 in order to double the diving-time. For NYGM, Stiebler recommends values of 2.0 (renewable supply) and 10.0 (non-renewable supply, bottled air).

b) TC switches to 1 when oxygen is low and the LI starts to use botteled air supply.

U-Tanker-Mod: Docking at an U-Tanker now possible 2 weeks after the last docking at an U-Tanker (old value was 2 months).

BDU-Messages-Mod:

a) Bugfix ("Sink no neutrals"-Message at patrol start).

b) More random behaviour: After sinking a ship, you no more get a congratulation with 100% chance.

Known problem: "Sink no neutrals"-Message only works at patrol start when you have no tonnage sunk so far and sinking a neutral leads to negative tonnage.

Notes:

The Messages have not changed from V15G1 to V15G2. So if you already have V15G1: No need to fiddle around with en_menu.txt and de_menu.txt.

Differing from the Options-Selectors Help-File, V15G2 does not contain Stieblers "Surrender"-Mod.

Many thanks for new Version h.sie !

I´m going to test this evening...!

Best regards,
Magic

fitzcarraldo · 07-18-11, 07:33 AM

Many thanks, H.sie! Testing now...All OK for now.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

Wolfstriked · 07-18-11, 11:30 AM

Thank you Hsie.

rudewarrior · 07-18-11, 06:06 PM

I hate to be a distraction in all of this O2 consumption discussion, but it looks like a few pages back you all were discussing with some users how to implement the u-tankers fix with the surface ship "tankers." Someone suggested inserting "U-" in the front of all of the NavalBase Name= entries in the Campaing_SCR.mis file. The only problem is the people who were posting in the thread were having problems with getting both the torpedo replenishment function and the BdU messages to work, and then...that's it. The conversation moved on to getting the messages to work, and no one communicated if they were successful in fixing the torpedo replenishment problem.

So:

1. Is there anyone who has done this "fix" and gotten it to work successfully?

and

2. Could you communicate explicitly what you did in terms of editing?

Thanx in advance.

07-16-11, 11:14 PM	#1850
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Success at Last @ h,sie & Stiebler Followed Stielber's well written instructions and saw my mistake. Put in h,sie's patch into jsgme instead of Supplement jsgme. The only mod conflict was Rafael's DSK Gui. Easy fix. I installed it manually. The conflict de_menu and en_ menu. Thx again you 2 I won't be around SubSim for awhile as I will be playing SH3\GWX and h.sie's Patch as the sim was meant to be played. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-17-11, 03:58 AM	#1851
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@FIREWALL; TheStoon: Good to know it now works for you. Hope you like it!! In my opinion, thestoon's comment was very constructive and helpful, because he exactly pointed out what people often do wrong. I should consider his words in the QuickManual. Thank you. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

07-17-11, 04:47 PM	#1853
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Small Update V15G2 available for beta testing Changes: O2-Supply-Mod: a) Since there was some disagreement regarding diving-times, Stieblers Options-Selector now contains 2 Sliders for individually fine-adjusting the diving-times resulting from the renewable and non-renewable oxygen component. Leave them unchanged at their default-values (1,0), if you are satisfied with the diving-times adjusted by LGN1 and me. Choose e.g. a factor of 2,0 in order to double the diving-time. For NYGM, Stiebler recommends values of 2.0 (renewable supply) and 10.0 (non-renewable supply, bottled air). b) TC switches to 1 when oxygen is low and the LI starts to use botteled air supply. U-Tanker-Mod: Docking at an U-Tanker now possible 2 weeks after the last docking at an U-Tanker (old value was 2 months). BDU-Messages-Mod: a) Bugfix ("Sink no neutrals"-Message at patrol start). b) More random behaviour: After sinking a ship, you no more get a congratulation with 100% chance. Known problem: "Sink no neutrals"-Message only works at patrol start when you have no tonnage sunk so far and sinking a neutral leads to negative tonnage. Notes: The Messages have not changed from V15G1 to V15G2. So if you already have V15G1: No need to fiddle around with en_menu.txt and de_menu.txt. Differing from the Options-Selectors Help-File, V15G2 does not contain Stieblers "Surrender"-Mod. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 07-18-11 at 02:45 AM.

07-17-11, 05:05 PM	#1854
NGT Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 259 Downloads: 289 Uploads: 3	Thanks again Thank you very much. Very useful optimizations (for me...) permitting personalization of the game. We can apply the Surrender mod patch (Stiebler patch)?

07-18-11, 01:32 AM	#1855
Robin40 Chief Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rivoli (Italy) Posts: 310 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	How to patch to V15G2? Already patched to V15G1 Applied Supplemental Do you repeat the same process to a sh3.old exe?

07-17-11, 10:59 AM	#1852
Kaleun Cook Chief Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ger Posts: 313 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	After a long break from SH3 I'm trying the latest beta version. Till now, everything works as advertised - also I didn't have any problems with the silent-running-sinking on my GWX installation.

07-18-11, 02:02 AM	#1856
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@NGT: See post #1853: No. But I'm sure, Stiebler will provide his "Surrender" Addon soon. @Robin: Yes, always use the original sh3.exe as starting point for patching (has been renamed to sh3.old during an earlier patching process). __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 07-18-11 at 02:47 AM.

07-18-11, 07:33 AM	#1858
fitzcarraldo Argentinian Skipper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Somewhere between Buenos Aires and the Bungo Suido Posts: 5,135 Downloads: 3219 Uploads: 0	Many thanks, H.sie! Testing now...All OK for now. Best regards. Fitzcarraldo __________________ *My subject is War, and the pity of War. The Poetry is in the pity - Wilfred Owen.*

07-18-11, 11:30 AM	#1859
Wolfstriked Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 756 Downloads: 230 Uploads: 0	Thank you Hsie.

07-18-11, 06:06 PM	#1860
rudewarrior Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Middlebury, VT, USA Posts: 378 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 2	I hate to be a distraction in all of this O2 consumption discussion, but it looks like a few pages back you all were discussing with some users how to implement the u-tankers fix with the surface ship "tankers." Someone suggested inserting "U-" in the front of all of the NavalBase Name= entries in the Campaing_SCR.mis file. The only problem is the people who were posting in the thread were having problems with getting both the torpedo replenishment function and the BdU messages to work, and then...that's it. The conversation moved on to getting the messages to work, and no one communicated if they were successful in fixing the torpedo replenishment problem. So: 1. Is there anyone who has done this "fix" and gotten it to work successfully? and 2. Could you communicate explicitly what you did in terms of editing? Thanx in advance.