US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 883

AVGWarhawk · 01-21-21, 04:26 PM

Biden's first day: Close down the Keystone Pipeline. Stop construction of the border wall. The people who have lost jobs in one fell swoop of a pen is astonishing.

FeatsOfStrength · 01-21-21, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonicfire1981

You americans seem to have a big issue with your ... how should I call it ... media landscape. From the outside it seems "the blue" watch CNN, MSNBC while "the red" watch Fox. I do both, or at least I tried time and again. (Listen to Tucker Carlson physically hurts.) I also wonder - are there rightwing, maybe even Trump supporting latenight hosts like colbert, Meyers, kimmel etc. I'd like to check them out.
But coming back to your information bubble: twitter & facebook should only be taken as serious news ressource when it comes from a ... well news ressource.

I have more questions, serious ones, but I'd like to save the others for later.

There are no Conservative late night hosts because the truth is that Conservative Comedians are just not particularly funny.

The best comedians are the ones who don't identify with a political camp.

I think that now the appropriate measure for everyone on the Right is to give Biden the benefit of the doubt. Conspiracy theories have become the mainstream of Conservatism in the United States these past 4 years, when Trump came to office even though I had a bad impression of him I was still willing to judge him purely on his actions in office.

Sean Spicers first press conference where he blatantly lied about the size of Trump's inauguration crowd for no reason whatsoever, followed by thousands of blatant lies from the administration over the next four years and the real kicker, which was Helsinki where the President stood on stage next to Putin and said he trusted Putin over his own nation's intelligence services. He basically made himself look like the weakest leader in US history, surrounded by Yes men puffing up his ego. At that point I realised that there was no way in hell I could ever support him, he's tapped and had no business ever being in a position of Authority. The handful of things that he has done that I approve of in no way make up for this sheer act of un-American political theatre.

mapuc · 01-21-21, 04:34 PM

A Danish politician which I follow wrote following about Bidens decrees

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Bidens decrees
It is important The United States rejoins the PARIS AGREEMENT. It's also fine the United States again contributes to the WHO. And fine to repeal MUSLIM BAN.

We just need to remind the new president that the previous administration had a point that the problem with the PARIS AGREEMENT is that China did not deliver enough and was allowed to play by different rules than the rest of us, even though they swear and pollute the most.

Also remember that the WHO chief is an old communist, full of lies about the corona pandemic and in the pocket of China. WHO is a necessary organization, especially in the fight against COVID19, but the organization must be reformed and liberated from China!

The problem with the MUSLIM BAN is that it has also affected, for example, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian and Lebanese CHRISTIANS. For "muslim ban" COUNTRIES apply and not extreme individuals and organizations.
So fine with a showdown with what does not work, if so the United States uses the influence to ensure fair game rules and enforce them!

Then I hope the new president maintains pressure on China, Iran and the Islamist organizations. And not least, the United States maintains its support for the historic peace agreements between Israel and the Arab countries.
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Markus

Rockstar · 01-21-21, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonicfire1981

what's gonna happen 26th (I presume january)`?

Just a few days ago, I think it was CNN which reported Trump lifting travel bans. As if on cue the immediate knee jerk response of course was that Trump was trying to sabotage the Biden administration the U.S. and allow COVID to spread unabated.

I just pointed out the actual white house document which stated the goal of the outgoing administration was to allow travel if certain criteria was met in an attempt to kick start the tourism industry and get people back to work. I also added that Biden would not prevent the new rules from going into effect and that the only thing which would change would be who got the credit.

August · 01-21-21, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Then I hope the new president maintains pressure on China, Iran and the Islamist organizations. And not least, the United States maintains its support for the historic peace agreements between Israel and the Arab countries.
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Markus

I'll bet he doesn't do any of that.

bstanko6 · 01-21-21, 05:13 PM

I guess I see why the world wants the US to go back to the WHO, Paris, and lift the Muslim ban.

We paid for everything! We brought the money while the other countries benefit.

The WHO dropped the ball on COVID,

Paris was just US money being poured in.

And Europe wants us to take refugees because they don’t want to. All the tapes and extremism is too much!

Catfish · 01-21-21, 05:15 PM

The human brain is obviously not able to imagine anything further away than the nosetip to which it belongs

MaDef · 01-21-21, 05:17 PM

Didn't take long for Biden to step on his tally-wacker. He signed an executive order requiring masks on all Federal properties and buildings and a few hours later was caught on camera at the Lincoln memorial without a mask.

Can't respect someone who won't follow their own rules.

u crank · 01-21-21, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FeatsOfStrength

There are no Conservative late night hosts because the truth is that Conservative Comedians are just not particularly funny.

Well maybe but that is not the reason. The reason is that Hollywood and most of the entertainment industry is left wing and they are just not going to allow it.

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The best comedians are the ones who don't identify with a political camp.

So Colbert is out?

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I think that now the appropriate measure for everyone on the Right is to give Biden the benefit of the doubt.

I think that is an appropriate stance but it hasn't taken very long for Joe to show what his administration is all about - Obama 2.0

Catfish · 01-21-21, 05:21 PM

^ evidence?
Does it make sense to wear a mask when there is no one around you?
Do you wear a mask in bed?

Buddahaid · 01-21-21, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ evidence?
Does it make sense to wear a mask when there is no one around you?
Do you wear a mask in bed?

Yes but it's Batman.....

Jeff-Groves · 01-21-21, 05:26 PM

Some people do wear masks in bed.
It's commonly referred to as CPAP.

As for no mask at the Lincoln Memorial?
Is there ANYTHING in the order that says unless no one else is there?

u crank · 01-21-21, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ evidence?
Does it make sense to wear a mask when there is no one around you?
Do you wear a mask in bed?

He wasn't in bed. He was in a Federal building and he wasn't alone. He's never alone unless he's in bed.

Jeff-Groves · 01-21-21, 05:35 PM

But from what I read? It's 7 days until this is actually mandated?

Sonicfire1981 · 01-21-21, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bstanko6

I guess I see why the world wants the US to go back to the WHO, Paris, and lift the Muslim ban.

Yes, because as an isolationist nation you are either north korea or about 100 years late.

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We paid for everything! We brought the money while the other countries benefit.

Doubt it - if global temperature and sealevel does not rise, I'm fairly certain there will also be less flooding in the US.
And while the US contribution to WHO in 2016-2017 was the highest, it was less than #2 and #3 combined.

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The WHO dropped the ball on COVID,

doubt it. at least most nations still in it have less casualties than the US.

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Paris was just US money being poured in.

can you provide some budgetary figures to that?

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And Europe wants us to take refugees because they don’t want to. All the tapes and extremism is too much!

I doubt the refugees row all the way across the atlantic, so relax. Not all european nations want to take their share of refugees (others do), but they are trying to work it out like adults (mostly) instead of just withdrawing from society

01-21-21, 04:26 PM	#13231
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01-21-21, 05:13 PM	#13236
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01-21-21, 05:15 PM	#13237
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	The human brain is obviously not able to imagine anything further away than the nosetip to which it belongs __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-21-21, 05:21 PM	#13240
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ evidence? Does it make sense to wear a mask when there is no one around you? Do you wear a mask in bed? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-21-21, 05:26 PM	#13242
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,320 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Some people do wear masks in bed. It's commonly referred to as CPAP. As for no mask at the Lincoln Memorial? Is there ANYTHING in the order that says unless no one else is there? __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

01-21-21, 04:34 PM	#13233
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,917 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	A Danish politician which I follow wrote following about Bidens decrees " Bidens decrees It is important The United States rejoins the PARIS AGREEMENT. It's also fine the United States again contributes to the WHO. And fine to repeal MUSLIM BAN. We just need to remind the new president that the previous administration had a point that the problem with the PARIS AGREEMENT is that China did not deliver enough and was allowed to play by different rules than the rest of us, even though they swear and pollute the most. Also remember that the WHO chief is an old communist, full of lies about the corona pandemic and in the pocket of China. WHO is a necessary organization, especially in the fight against COVID19, but the organization must be reformed and liberated from China! The problem with the MUSLIM BAN is that it has also affected, for example, Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian and Lebanese CHRISTIANS. For "muslim ban" COUNTRIES apply and not extreme individuals and organizations. So fine with a showdown with what does not work, if so the United States uses the influence to ensure fair game rules and enforce them! Then I hope the new president maintains pressure on China, Iran and the Islamist organizations. And not least, the United States maintains its support for the historic peace agreements between Israel and the Arab countries. " Markus

01-21-21, 05:17 PM	#13238
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,046 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Didn't take long for Biden to step on his tally-wacker. He signed an executive order requiring masks on all Federal properties and buildings and a few hours later was caught on camera at the Lincoln memorial without a mask. Can't respect someone who won't follow their own rules.

01-21-21, 05:35 PM	#13244
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,320 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	But from what I read? It's 7 days until this is actually mandated? __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.