No Man's Sky - new awesome game update 'Next'

Skybird · 06-05-20, 03:31 PM

I got the game recently, with all its DLCs released so far, in a smile price pack.
And I play it in VR.

I like it. Its huge, it has its moments, and in VR is really nice to get involved. It seems also that reviews have fundamentally changed and now recognise that the developer has spent the past years indeed to give massive support to what seemed to have been a dud at release. But that was 2016, now is 2020. I know from Raceroom how far games can change over the years, Raceroom was a desaster at start in 2012, today is one of the absolutely best race sim packages on the market. So a dud can rise like phoenix from the ashes - and NMS has.

It reminds me often of Subnautica, I mean the visual style and the tasks you are doing, just the claustrophobia and intense atmosphere is missing, while it offers the WAYYYYYY bigger playground.

There are weak details, for exmaple that capital ships do not engage in space battles (so far?). Anyhow, for the asking price now, what you get in the complete package today is worth to be recommended for that money. Its not perfect, but it is solid, and in VR quite good. Me at least does not complain.

I compare it to Elite in VR, and can just usum it up0 ba saying that I simpyl did not ge tinto Elite. They game just did not pick me up where I was. X Rebirth I played a lot ion 2D, and liked it, soem thigns it does better than NMS, others worse. The new X game (in VR) I tried twice (with one year between both attempts) and refunded twice, they did not even care to get the player hooked by giving it a steering setup method that worked, I already got scared away by just trying to configure the virtual controlling (and failed twice, the axis callibration just did not work).

Bury the rough start of NMS, its over four years ago. What it is now, is respectable.

Dowly · 06-06-20, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Bury the rough start of NMS, its over four years ago. What it is now, is respectable.

Yeah, no. Sean Murray lied all the way up until the release, there was a review embargo so people would not know the state of the game. What they've done 4 years on is completely irrelevant.

This is the kind of BS why game companies keep getting away with the sh!t the do. People going "Well, it's ok now, I enjoy it". That's great, but don't come crying when you get burned next time, because it's you who enables this sh!t. (not talking about you Sky specifically, just in general)

Skybird · 06-06-20, 05:52 AM

Dowly, I personally dislike these endlessly lasting, years-.taking "Early Access" projects they now have at around every corner at Steam. I am not new to criticising broken game releases. Early Access I accept as long as it lasts not longer than one year. Else the Early Access release imo was way too premature. I am very choosey regarding developers whose Early Access projects I support. A very positive, professionally done example was Assetto Corsa, both of them. A very deterring, unprofessionally handled example was Wreckfest.

NMS may have been all that what you said back then and still think today, its just that it does not matter anymore for people finding the game today. Like myself, I have not gotten into it before now, cheap price, all content. And what I hold in my hands, is good. Not pure gold, but a really solid, good package. How it got to what it is now - I am no interested in, honestly. I bought the present, not the past.

In 2012, a famous company named SimBin released the "successor", so it was hoped, to GTR-2. The sim must have been a desastetr, I read, terrible physics, lousy AI. The company had made many mistakes before, and broke apart, went bancrupt. The remains of the team reassembled in two groups, and became the core teams for two other new studios, the one made Project Cars then, the other, under the name Sector3, cooperated with a suspension producer from the real world, and started to pick up the remains of Raceroom. When they released their first big revamp of the formerly already buried body, it was another game, and that was when I stumbled over it. You see, I did not care what there was in drama and msitakes before, what I had found was poure gold, love at first sight. Since then, 2015 I think, it became better and better, went from strength to strength, and nobody, really nobody today laughs anymore or talks about the bad start eight years ago. It just does not matter anymore. And its former outstanding weaknesses today are two of its most outstanding positives: the physics belong to the most convcining in business, the aI is the banchmark in business to which all others must compare.

You must not like NMS. Or like it but stay away from it for any reeason of yours, if you think you must. Its okay. I just gave a headsup for those people finding it now, and hearing whispers about some sky falling event in the dark ages. To them i say: those days are over, the game is okay, and apparently still in full development for further new content. In VR, its especially nice to crawl over the surface of some god-forsaken planet.

A good game. Not more, not less. The rest is history. Let it rest now.

XenonSurf · 06-07-20, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Yeah, no. Sean Murray lied all the way up until the release, there was a review embargo so people would not know the state of the game. What they've done 4 years on is completely irrelevant.

This is the kind of BS why game companies keep getting away with the sh!t the do. People going "Well, it's ok now, I enjoy it". That's great, but don't come crying when you get burned next time, because it's you who enables this sh!t. (not talking about you Sky specifically, just in general)

I respect your opinions about the game, but I see it differently:
If not the Sony company to give the financial push to the game, NMS would have been released in Early Access and no one would have complained about missing features at the start or later. Now, with Sony involved an early access became impossible, the game had to be complete - which it wasn't. And rushing buyers or deceived pre-order buyers? I don't care for them, they got their fair share for their stupidity, sorry.

XS

Skybird · 06-11-20, 09:39 AM

With a bigger update today the game now gets crossplay capability for PC, PS4 and Xbox, which will be activated from tomorrow on, the readme says. I think crossplay between PC-2D and PC-VR already has been implermented, but I did not test it, since I do not play multiplayer and so do not care. But for those who do, this is good news.

06-05-20, 03:31 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,579 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I got the game recently, with all its DLCs released so far, in a smile price pack. And I play it in VR. I like it. Its huge, it has its moments, and in VR is really nice to get involved. It seems also that reviews have fundamentally changed and now recognise that the developer has spent the past years indeed to give massive support to what seemed to have been a dud at release. But that was 2016, now is 2020. I know from Raceroom how far games can change over the years, Raceroom was a desaster at start in 2012, today is one of the absolutely best race sim packages on the market. So a dud can rise like phoenix from the ashes - and NMS has. It reminds me often of Subnautica, I mean the visual style and the tasks you are doing, just the claustrophobia and intense atmosphere is missing, while it offers the WAYYYYYY bigger playground. There are weak details, for exmaple that capital ships do not engage in space battles (so far?). Anyhow, for the asking price now, what you get in the complete package today is worth to be recommended for that money. Its not perfect, but it is solid, and in VR quite good. Me at least does not complain. I compare it to Elite in VR, and can just usum it up0 ba saying that I simpyl did not ge tinto Elite. They game just did not pick me up where I was. X Rebirth I played a lot ion 2D, and liked it, soem thigns it does better than NMS, others worse. The new X game (in VR) I tried twice (with one year between both attempts) and refunded twice, they did not even care to get the player hooked by giving it a steering setup method that worked, I already got scared away by just trying to configure the virtual controlling (and failed twice, the axis callibration just did not work). Bury the rough start of NMS, its over four years ago. What it is now, is respectable. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-06-20, 05:52 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,579 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Dowly, I personally dislike these endlessly lasting, years-.taking "Early Access" projects they now have at around every corner at Steam. I am not new to criticising broken game releases. Early Access I accept as long as it lasts not longer than one year. Else the Early Access release imo was way too premature. I am very choosey regarding developers whose Early Access projects I support. A very positive, professionally done example was Assetto Corsa, both of them. A very deterring, unprofessionally handled example was Wreckfest. NMS may have been all that what you said back then and still think today, its just that it does not matter anymore for people finding the game today. Like myself, I have not gotten into it before now, cheap price, all content. And what I hold in my hands, is good. Not pure gold, but a really solid, good package. How it got to what it is now - I am no interested in, honestly. I bought the present, not the past. In 2012, a famous company named SimBin released the "successor", so it was hoped, to GTR-2. The sim must have been a desastetr, I read, terrible physics, lousy AI. The company had made many mistakes before, and broke apart, went bancrupt. The remains of the team reassembled in two groups, and became the core teams for two other new studios, the one made Project Cars then, the other, under the name Sector3, cooperated with a suspension producer from the real world, and started to pick up the remains of Raceroom. When they released their first big revamp of the formerly already buried body, it was another game, and that was when I stumbled over it. You see, I did not care what there was in drama and msitakes before, what I had found was poure gold, love at first sight. Since then, 2015 I think, it became better and better, went from strength to strength, and nobody, really nobody today laughs anymore or talks about the bad start eight years ago. It just does not matter anymore. And its former outstanding weaknesses today are two of its most outstanding positives: the physics belong to the most convcining in business, the aI is the banchmark in business to which all others must compare. You must not like NMS. Or like it but stay away from it for any reeason of yours, if you think you must. Its okay. I just gave a headsup for those people finding it now, and hearing whispers about some sky falling event in the dark ages. To them i say: those days are over, the game is okay, and apparently still in full development for further new content. In VR, its especially nice to crawl over the surface of some god-forsaken planet. A good game. Not more, not less. The rest is history. Let it rest now. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-11-20, 09:39 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,579 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	With a bigger update today the game now gets crossplay capability for PC, PS4 and Xbox, which will be activated from tomorrow on, the readme says. I think crossplay between PC-2D and PC-VR already has been implermented, but I did not test it, since I do not play multiplayer and so do not care. But for those who do, this is good news. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.