US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Let me see if I got this right.

Before the election-Biden said the wall who is partial build will be removed or stopped.

Now as a President he decided to continue the build .

Is this correct ?

Markus

Jimmy Dore used to be a Democrat, then an independant and now a member of the orginal Bernie platform known as the Peoples Party. Though I'm sure I could agree on somethings, I'm not a big fan of any of them. BUT, in my opinion Jimmy's observations are spot on and entertaining. Its what happens when people stop being gullable mindless followers of bold faced lies.

Such when liberal left dem platform was to condem Trump immigration policies. Championed for migrants, said they would end the wall, welcome the poor and huddled masses.
Of course after that dog and pony show it gives democrat voters a sense of being more inclusive and better than eveyone else assuring a Biden win.


But then after they got rid of Trump. The media remains silent therefore the gullable morons remain ignorant. As Biden not only tells migrants "do not come" he turns them away, keeps the cages and continues to build the wall even going so far as to demand California build private prison systems for migrants.

[Dowly]

Instead of believing a youtube video, you could've checked what's happening with the wall.


Biden administration pulled the funding from it, it's not being built.


"gullable mindless followers of bold faced lies"

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Instead of believing a youtube video, you could've checked what's happening with the wall.


Biden administration pulled the funding from it, it's not being built.


"gullable mindless followers of bold faced lies"

The devil is in the details, try reading them while keeping in mind his campaign promise of not "another foot of wall,"

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Let me see if I got this right.
Before the election-Biden said the wall who is partial build will be removed or stopped.
Now as a President he decided to continue the build .
Is this correct ?
Markus

Trump said he'd build the wall but somehow it did not happen. Whether Mexico did not want to pay for it or not enough money, not enough time, whatever. Anyway it was delayed, (on December 22, 2018, the federal government went into a shutdown due to Trump's demand for $5.6 billion in federal funds to begin work on the wall. By January 12, 2019, the shutdown became the longest budget shutdown in U.S. history.) until Trump made it a national security order in 2019.
Biden said he will stop building the wall, but i do not know whether national law can always beat local residential law? In one of the links they say it is a local/residential decision.
Also, what happens with the parts of the wall that have been begun building, there are judicial problems with contracts the government and private building companies have signed. Then there is the money that has been donated to Trump's project of building that wall.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/30/u...ped/index.html

[mapuc]

Dowly are correct.

So instead of asking you my friends I should have made a search for articles mention this subject.

First article

Biden, a Democrat, issued an executive order on Jan. 20 - his first day in office - that paused wall construction, saying "a massive wall that spans the entire southern border is not a serious policy solution."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bid...up-2021-06-11/

Second article

"The 60-day window has come and gone," said Luke Ellis, a Texas attorney representing border landowners in court. "The most recent update we have from the lawyers for the government ... is that they still don't know what is going to happen."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pled...ry?id=76928099

So we have two partial directions-One says Biden has fully stopped the build and have en route U.S. border wall funds to military and construction site clean up

While the second is unclear whether Biden & Co has stopped the construction or not.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Campaign promise: Not one more foot!


Biden admin to finish a 13 MILE section of wall.

Confused? Me too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bi...as/ar-BB1gFOFC

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That seems like a personal attack. His point was valid and not subject to your approval.

I wasn't granting or withholding "approval" to anyone, but in the same vein my posts aren't subject to your approval either so thank you for your unrequested opinion but I really don't care what you think.

[Rockstar]

If you voted for Biden. Do you feel like a chump yet?
Biden packs immigration courts with Trump judges. WOW, Im begining to like how ol' Joe is handling immigration!

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Campaign promise: Not one more foot!


Biden admin to finish a 13 MILE section of wall.

Confused? Me too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bi...as/ar-BB1gFOFC

To be clear, wall construction remains paused to extent permitted by law. Per DHS, we’ve started critical work to repair the Rio Grande Valley’s flood levee, which was excavated to make way for border wall. This remediation work will not involve expanding border barrier.

https://twitter.com/USACEHQ/status/1392636847612911617

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Dowly

https://twitter.com/USACEHQ/status/1392636847612911617

At the beginning of his presidency, Biden paused border wall construction and land acquisition until a a 60-day review of Trump’s border wall could be completed. The review tasked those involved to decide where the money set aside for the wall could be redirected. The 60-day mark passed more than 30 days ago without any results.
The pause on wall construction continues, but as a result of the delay in the review or a permanent stop to wall construction, a judge last week agreed to give the government six acres of land in Hidalgo County, Texas, for the purpose of wall construction despite the Justice Department asking the court to wait until its review was complete. The case is one of more than 200 eminent domain cases started under the Trump administration that still continue today.

[Rockstar]

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

The 60-day mark passed more than 30 days ago without any results.

Biden admin. announced on June 11th that the money Trump took from Pentagon for the wall are being returned. Sounds like a result to me.

The pause on wall construction continues, but as a result of the delay in the review or a permanent stop to wall construction, a judge last week agreed to give the government six acres of land in Hidalgo County, Texas, for the purpose of wall construction despite the Justice Department asking the court to wait until its review was complete. The case is one of more than 200 eminent domain cases started under the Trump administration that still continue today.

Then blame the judge.

[Rockstar]

See post #144

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

See post #144

Ok, I checked post #144, now what?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Ok, I checked post #144, now what?

Made ya look