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Old 09-23-19, 05:25 AM   #11056
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You forgot to mention possible scenario number three: "the way of the optimistic and well-meaning".
No such thing exists
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Old 09-23-19, 05:25 AM   #11057
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Well the good news is -
Each party now has a clear-ish and unique position on Brexit.

Lib Dem:No Brexit
Labour: Soft Brexit or No Brexit
Cons: Soft Brexit or Hard Brexit
BP: Hard Brexit.

The bad news is, they will all make a pigs ear out of it.
And in reality an election would likely have 1 of 2 out comes

Con/BP coalition = Hard Brexit
LibDem/Lab coalition = No brexit.
I am not to sure about that, don't forget the SNP factor and they are on the rise again. They could wipe out the cons and lab causing big problems for those party's. As for BP under the voting system we got they would be lucky to get five seats, the cons/lab are divided with deep internal problems as for the libs riding rush shot over democracy may get stung in the arse.

Let us not forget the voters and a few I know have said no they are not voting this time as they have no faith in any party sorting this brexit mess out.
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Old 09-23-19, 05:31 AM   #11058
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Well the good news is -
Each party now has a clear-ish and unique position on Brexit.

Lib Dem:No Brexit
Labour: Soft Brexit or No Brexit
Cons: Soft Brexit or Hard Brexit
BP: Hard Brexit.

The bad news is, they will all make a pigs ear out of it.
And in reality an election would likely have 1 of 2 out comes

Con/BP coalition = Hard Brexit
LibDem/Lab coalition = No brexit.
Not quite Francis, not quite but could be pretty close as I see my old union Unison has decided to back the Remain option.

I'm a little disappointed tbh but at least it would give Steptoe a bloody nose.

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Jeremy Corbyn faces a battle over Labour's Brexit policy later as members choose between two competing strategies at the party's annual conference.

They will decide whether Labour should explicitly back Remain in any future referendum, or adopt Mr Corbyn's stance of staying neutral until a later date.

Unison has broken ranks with other unions to back the Remain motion.

The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg said this could "shift the balance" and increase the chance of Mr Corbyn being defeated.

With unions controlling half of the votes at the conference, their position is vital. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49789938
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Forgot about the SNP, they are basically Libdems as far a brexit goes.
Yeah I think its pretty clear that its the end of the road for Corncob, but i think who and what follows could be far worse.

*Spell check insists on correcting 'Corbyn' to 'Corncob', so I'm finally giving in.*
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Popcorn time shadow chancellor speech is on.

Have I got enough popcorn.


GET ON WITH IT YOU FART!
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Old 09-23-19, 06:13 AM   #11061
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Forgot about the SNP, they are basically Libdems as far a brexit goes.
Yeah I think its pretty clear that its the end of the road for Corncob, but i think who and what follows could be far worse.

*Spell check insists on correcting 'Corbyn' to 'Corncob', so I'm finally giving in.*
Not ten minutes old via email.

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Dear Jim,

We're two days deep into an incredible conference. The mood here is electric! Already we've heard about Labour's exciting new pledges:

✅ A cleaner, greener future, with 10 million trees planted in a carbon-neutral NHS, plus a national network of electric car charge points

✅ An NHS that's free for all, with all prescription charges scrapped

✅ A stride forward for equal workplaces, with time off for women going through the menopause

✅ Justice for the many, not just the privileged few, by restoring legal aid

The country has been brought to the brink of crisis by a decade of Tory cuts to public services alongside slashing taxes for the super-rich. We all know it doesn't have to be this way.

In just one term of Labour government, this could be the Britain that you live in. Jim, help make it a reality.

Conference has been brimming with exciting new policies, and enthusiastic people raring to start the fight ahead. We are half a million strong. Now is the time to join Labour.
Do you want me to forward them your email Francis?

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Old 09-23-19, 06:19 AM   #11062
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Popcorn time shadow chancellor speech is on.
Labour will end in work poverty in their first term in office....BS
Build more houses...BS

The amount of BS being said shows how desperate they are for your vote.



Jim, I take it you noted the word COULD as in BS in that email.
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Old 09-23-19, 06:24 AM   #11063
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For someone purportedly anti politics you are showing quite an intense infatuation for the subject
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For someone purportedly anti politics you are showing quite an intense infatuation for the subject
Got to keep eye on the ball jim, someone has to keep an eye on these sceaming so and so's. The day I stop will be the day I passed out finding at long last there is a party out there I can vote for.

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Old 09-23-19, 06:33 AM   #11065
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Well I'll believe you but I'm aware there are those who question such sentiments.
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Rock on..


This thread is good therapy...

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A ruling on the legality of Boris Johnson decision to suspend Parliament for five weeks will be announced by the Supreme Court on Tuesday at 10:30 BST.

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Old 09-23-19, 01:20 PM   #11068
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Jeremy Corbyn's policy on Brexit has triumphed at Labour conference, as members endorsed his stance to stay neutral while negotiating a new deal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49789938
There you have it, all the proof that a couple of unions and Momentum really do run the Labour Party.
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There you have it, all the proof that a couple of unions and Momentum really do run the Labour Party.
Now will you listen to me.
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Old 09-24-19, 04:21 AM   #11070
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Now will you listen to me.
To you? Are you joking? Momentum is less than five years old.

I was personally involved for over twenty years
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