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Old 06-25-21, 08:18 AM   #1486
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CRT is just another Mr. Potato Head flap to keep the Trumpism base angry as a substitute for having anything like a plan.
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Old 06-25-21, 08:19 AM   #1487
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Oh, look! Another manufactured outrage over nothing to keep the conservative masses feeling angry and victimized.


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Old 06-25-21, 01:03 PM   #1488
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I believe the concen of Geatz had was he heard CRT woke political activism taught at West Point. Seems he may have heard right. But by the sound of it was given the run around by two people trying to cover their tracks.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...and-white-rage

To top it off Carol Anderson also seems to have promoted a call for the military to resist the Commander in Chief. So ya I can see why some officers may have had some concern.

Yet when confronted we were told flat out by SecDef they dont teach that. . And the general? That clown actually stated he has to read a book about his whiteness. LOL
We don't have "leaders" in the senior officer or NCO corps. Anyone who reaches O-7+ or E-8+ is nowadays too often a ticket-punching yes-man who serves the interests of the military-industrial complex rather than those of the citizenry.

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Old 06-25-21, 04:31 PM   #1489
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Pretty amazing how General Milley slaps down the GOP over what's taught in military acadamies, over what caused January 6th, express offense at the military being accused of being too woke, and then see Matt Gaetz shake his stupid moronic fat head in disagreement.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...-gaetz-vpx.cnn

Miley compared CRT with works by Mao, Lenin, Hitler and others. They study such foundational writings of despots and their regimes as a way to gain insight into the mind of their enemy in order to better fight them.

But there's a big difference between studying them and being indoctrinated in them. As long as CRT is being presented as another crackpot ideology to be aware of in case they need to defeat an enemy that believes in it, rather than being presented as an officially recommended belief system for young officers to follow then I am fine with it.

I think however that Gaetz suspects it's the latter and not the former which is what I suspect as well given that's what is going on in our schools.
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Old 06-25-21, 05:25 PM   #1490
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It's been around for forty years so why is it now a big talking point? Something perhaps related to keeping Trump supporters angry?
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Old 06-25-21, 06:22 PM   #1491
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It's been around for forty years so why is it now a big talking point? Something perhaps related to keeping Trump supporters angry?
LOL, that's an easy question, one word answer "pandemic". Because of the pandemic, schools were shuttered and class instruction went virtual. That means all those parents were now seeing and hearing exactly what was being taught to their children and they are not happy.
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LOL, that's an easy question, one word answer "pandemic". Because of the pandemic, schools were shuttered and class instruction went virtual. That means all those parents were now seeing and hearing exactly what was being taught to their children and they are not happy.
Pretty funny.
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My second grade teacher in 1993 outright told everyone in class that slavery existed and that racism was bad, and I don't remember any of the parents threatening to burn down the school afterwards.
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It's been around for forty years so why is it now a big talking point? Something perhaps related to keeping Trump supporters angry?

I imagine you would prefer that but the truth is like MaDef says, as well as the fact that in recent years the left has amped up their efforts to convince us that America exists just to keep the black man down.
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I imagine you would prefer that but the truth is like MaDef says, as well as the fact that in recent years the left has amped up their efforts to convince us that America exists just to keep the black man down.
I don't feel that way about it but I don't see how anyone can deny the US has been and still is racist in many ways, I mean the Civil Rights Act came about almost at the bicentennial!
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I don't feel that way about it but I don't see how anyone can deny the US has been and still is racist in many ways, I mean the Civil Rights Act came about almost at the bicentennial!

Oh bull nations aren't racist, people are racist, people of all colors, and you can't legislate peoples hearts. But you can certainly play off one side against the other like CRT is designed to do.

Since you mention it let me ask you, what exactly did the huge government expansion called the civil rights act solve? What makes it more significant that the bloody war to end slavery fought a century before when the nation was still quite young?
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Really? Fine, the dirt isn't racist. If companies are considered a person then a nation is considered a person and then collectively has a shared responsibility. What the CRA solved is not the issue, that it needed to be enacted is.
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Really? Fine, the dirt isn't racist. If companies are considered a person then a nation is considered a person and then collectively has a shared responsibility. What the CRA solved is not the issue, that it needed to be enacted is.

If you can't claim it solved anything then you can't claim that it needed to be enacted. All it ended up being is another power grab by Washington like every other misguided do-gooder idea.
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Oh bull nations aren't racist, people are racist, people of all colors, and you can't legislate peoples hearts. But you can certainly play off one side against the other like CRT is designed to do.

Since you mention it let me ask you, what exactly did the huge government expansion called the civil rights act solve? What makes it more significant that the bloody war to end slavery fought a century before when the nation was still quite young?
OOH..OOH... I know this one, the CRA of 1964 declared people were equal and should be treated the same way, regardless of race, color or national origin. The civil war ended slavery, and while it was the catalyst for the war, "States Rights", the "Role of the Federal Government", and "Preservation of the Union". were the underlying cause of the war.

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