Julian Assange leaving? - Page 13

Jimbuna · 01-04-21, 09:42 AM

I doubt it but I wonder if the Harry Dunn case had any bearing on the decision behind the scenes.

Catfish · 01-04-21, 10:21 AM

A reminder of how the accusations against Assange were forged.
https://www.pressenza.com/2020/03/ho...ulian-assange/

Still some admittedly rhetorical questions:
Which are the accusations against Assange, beside the forged ones that have been debunked?
"Breaking into computers"? I take it someone else delivered the info to A:'s organisation?
How did this put US citizens or anyone in danger?
How did the UK manage to spend 16 million pounds to observe someone being in a foreign embassy? Why did they even do that? US pressure?
Has the US been accused of breaking international law based on information Assange made public?

Catfish · 06-24-21, 08:23 AM

Now what happenes to Assange?
Will England lock him up forever, without evidence? Or extradict him to the US? What the hell is going on here? It is grotesque.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/w...-UK-grotesque-

https://www.businessinsider.com/edwa...de-2021-6?op=1

So maybe he will die for whatever reason, preferrably by suicide, how convenient.

Jimbuna · 06-24-21, 08:59 AM

Taking into account the Harry Dunn case I'd be reluctant to extradite.

Skybird · 06-24-21, 09:10 AM

This case has stunk from day one on and the odour of it has not become weaker in the past years.

An intimidating example is to be executed, any abuse, bending, mutating of the law allowed.

Catfish · 06-24-21, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Taking into account the Harry Dunn case I'd be reluctant to extradite.

Well yes.. but then anyone can only hope that he does not get in such a situation, and become a hostage in international politics. It is about justice and democracy, and this case undermines both.

Jimbuna · 06-24-21, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Well yes.. but then anyone can only hope that he does not get in such a situation, and become a hostage in international politics. It is about justice and democracy, and this case undermines both.

So which is worse. Being incarcerated for years or losing one's life?

Catfish · 06-24-21, 01:41 PM

What a question is this?

You want to say that Assange is safe where he is now? He is not. I foresay he will soon die, conveniently.

You discover and publish criminal action done by a government and deserve the Nobel prize, instead they incarcerate you, in a.. democracy? Just a reminder that the accusations were obviously fabricated from day one, the last witness remaining presumed bribed, finally admitting it.

Jimbuna · 06-24-21, 01:56 PM

Kai, i'm referring to the fact that Harry Dunn lost his life.

Catfish · 06-24-21, 02:57 PM

Those are two different cases..
But fair enough, I became too fixated on Assange.

Jimbuna · 06-25-21, 07:51 AM

What I meant and should have referred to in greater detail was....no, I wouldn't extradite on the basis that the US refused to extradite the individual alledgedly responsible for the death of Harry Dunn.

Aktungbby · 06-25-21, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What I meant and should have referred to in greater detail was....no, I wouldn't extradite on the basis that the US refused to extradite the individual alledgedly responsible for the death of Harry Dunn.

your extradition quid is pro quo??!!

Catfish · 01-26-22, 03:48 AM

Julian Assange passes one thousand days in Belmarsh Prison, dubbed “Britain’s Guantanamo Bay”

"For 50 weeks, or 350 days, Assange was held on the basis of trumped-up bail offences, dating back to 2012. The charges were completely illegitimate, given that Assange’s application for political asylum had been approved and upheld by the United Nations after they were laid. Since the bail sentence elapsed, the WikiLeaks publisher has been held on remand, convicted of no crime."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...st-extradition

NSA:
"Why do you need privacy, nothing to hide, nothing to fear.?

Julian Assange:
"Agreed, this is why i am leaking government files online."

US and UK:
"Kill him!"

Jimbuna · 01-26-22, 09:42 AM

Hopefully the Supreme Court will quickly come to a final and definitive decision that will bring matters to a swift conclusion.

Personally speaking, I don't fully understand what is going on, not having given it much thought but the timescales look absolutely ridiculous.

Skybird · 01-26-22, 09:48 AM

The time scale is not ridiculous, but wanted. Its called executing a deterring example. As Catfish reminds of and said back then already and as I said back then, too, the whole rape case is just a staged act to get hands on Assnage and tkae revenege. It has always been about just this this, and every other claim is just an opportunistically misleading lie.

States are the coldest of all monsters.

Assange probabaly was a bit naive. Snowden was far more realistic about what to expect. Assnage I cannoit stand, but I defend his cause and doing. Snowden I only have deepest respect for his competence, his courage, his willingness to sacrifice so much of his life, and his deep love for his country. Calling him a traiotr on America, is ridiuclous. Americans, and the whole world, owe him. Unfortunately the media-racing modern society has already almost forgotten about his warnings. The loss of freedoms due to this is all to obvious. Liberty and free thinking is under siege. Not just outside the Western world, but also in the Western world. Liberty is slowly brought down, for the usual excuses. It dies, slowly - but it dies.

01-04-21, 09:42 AM	#181
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I doubt it but I wonder if the Harry Dunn case had any bearing on the decision behind the scenes. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

01-04-21, 10:21 AM	#182
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	A reminder of how the accusations against Assange were forged. https://www.pressenza.com/2020/03/ho...ulian-assange/ Still some admittedly rhetorical questions: Which are the accusations against Assange, beside the forged ones that have been debunked? "Breaking into computers"? I take it someone else delivered the info to A:'s organisation? How did this put US citizens or anyone in danger? How did the UK manage to spend 16 million pounds to observe someone being in a foreign embassy? Why did they even do that? US pressure? Has the US been accused of breaking international law based on information Assange made public? __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 01-04-21 at 10:29 AM.*

06-24-21, 08:23 AM	#183
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Now what happenes to Assange? Will England lock him up forever, without evidence? Or extradict him to the US? What the hell is going on here? It is grotesque. https://english.alarabiya.net/News/w...-UK-grotesque- https://www.businessinsider.com/edwa...de-2021-6?op=1 So maybe he will die for whatever reason, preferrably by suicide, how convenient. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

06-24-21, 08:59 AM	#184
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Taking into account the Harry Dunn case I'd be reluctant to extradite. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-24-21, 09:10 AM	#185
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	This case has stunk from day one on and the odour of it has not become weaker in the past years. An intimidating example is to be executed, any abuse, bending, mutating of the law allowed. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-24-21, 01:41 PM	#188
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	What a question is this? You want to say that Assange is safe where he is now? He is not. I foresay he will soon die, conveniently. You discover and publish criminal action done by a government and deserve the Nobel prize, instead they incarcerate you, in a.. democracy? Just a reminder that the accusations were obviously fabricated from day one, the last witness remaining presumed bribed, finally admitting it. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

06-24-21, 01:56 PM	#189
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Kai, i'm referring to the fact that Harry Dunn lost his life. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-24-21, 02:57 PM	#190
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Those are two different cases.. But fair enough, I became too fixated on Assange. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

06-25-21, 07:51 AM	#191
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	What I meant and should have referred to in greater detail was....no, I wouldn't extradite on the basis that the US refused to extradite the individual alledgedly responsible for the death of Harry Dunn. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

01-26-22, 03:48 AM	#193
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Julian Assange passes one thousand days in Belmarsh Prison, dubbed “Britain’s Guantanamo Bay” "For 50 weeks, or 350 days, Assange was held on the basis of trumped-up bail offences, dating back to 2012. The charges were completely illegitimate, given that Assange’s application for political asylum had been approved and upheld by the United Nations after they were laid. Since the bail sentence elapsed, the WikiLeaks publisher has been held on remand, convicted of no crime." https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...st-extradition NSA: "Why do you need privacy, nothing to hide, nothing to fear.? Julian Assange: "Agreed, this is why i am leaking government files online." US and UK: "Kill him!" __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-26-22, 09:42 AM	#194
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,175 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Hopefully the Supreme Court will quickly come to a final and definitive decision that will bring matters to a swift conclusion. Personally speaking, I don't fully understand what is going on, not having given it much thought but the timescales look absolutely ridiculous. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

01-26-22, 09:48 AM	#195
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The time scale is not ridiculous, but wanted. Its called executing a deterring example. As Catfish reminds of and said back then already and as I said back then, too, the whole rape case is just a staged act to get hands on Assnage and tkae revenege. It has always been about just this this, and every other claim is just an opportunistically misleading lie. States are the coldest of all monsters. Assange probabaly was a bit naive. Snowden was far more realistic about what to expect. Assnage I cannoit stand, but I defend his cause and doing. Snowden I only have deepest respect for his competence, his courage, his willingness to sacrifice so much of his life, and his deep love for his country. Calling him a traiotr on America, is ridiuclous. Americans, and the whole world, owe him. Unfortunately the media-racing modern society has already almost forgotten about his warnings. The loss of freedoms due to this is all to obvious. Liberty and free thinking is under siege. Not just outside the Western world, but also in the Western world. Liberty is slowly brought down, for the usual excuses. It dies, slowly - but it dies. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.