Narwhal class has no crew....

drakkhen20 · 01-28-15, 08:19 PM

ive downloaded the Narwhal out of bonus content and I started a single mission to test it out and to see what it looked like and it was like a ghost ship. no crew at all on bridge or below. any suggestions ??

Benjamin2557 · 01-29-15, 01:51 AM

The problem is the .upc file.

TorpX · 01-29-15, 02:50 AM

As benji said, the problem is most likely in the *.upc file (which has the crew roster for the boat). The bonus mod was made with certain conventions in this area; if your mod loadout doesn't use the same ones, problems result. The game is touchy about these things.

drakkhen20 · 01-31-15, 10:52 PM

even if you enable it after everything in JSGM?

TorpX · 02-01-15, 02:09 AM

Hmmm, not sure really. The individual sub type crew rosters much match up with the general crew info, or they will not show up.

When I was working on the Narwhal for ISP, I had thought to use the New version you are trying to use, but there were too many problems for me to sort out. The 'old' RSRDC version was easier to deal with. Even with that I had enough problems. I could never get the crews exactly how I wanted them.

Maybe someone else knows more about the crew/roster business; to me it was a huge mess, and I hated dealing with it. If you are willing to mod the crew files, I'm sure you can get it to work, but it might be more work than you're willing to take on.

What other mods are you using with the Narwhal?

aanker · 02-03-15, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

What other mods are you using with the Narwhal?

Yes, especially is it installed on Stock 1.5, GFO, TMO v2.5, TMO v??, RFB or another megamod?

It should plug right in to Stock 1.5, GFO, & RFB.
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Update, with the patch: "Donation_Narwhal_v185_TMO.7z", the Donation NARWHAL does work in TMO 2.5

Quote:

TMO 2.5 Support for donation Narwhal.
Install with JSGME.
TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
New Narwhal K v 1.8.5
New Narwhal TMO2.5_Support

- http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//dow...o=file&id=4330
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- also: May be of interest:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//sho...d.php?t=206389

The patch for TMO 2.5 is missing. I thought the donation period was over, however the dl link takes you to a page to dl the NARWHAL only. I do have the patch..... for TMO 2.1 which also works in TMO 2.5 because it modifies similar UPC files as small_patch for TMO 2.5

Also missing here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=195185 - but interesting thread.

Because I change so many files, I am unsure what is a standalone download or a modifies by me download.

drakkhen20 · 02-03-15, 09:22 PM

RFB_2.0
RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010
RSRDC_RFB_V575
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
TMO19_interior3d_SCLASS_overhaul
TMO19_interior3d_SALMON_overhaul
TMO19_interior3d_PORPOISE_overhaul
TMO19_interior3d_GATO_USSDRUM
TMO_interior3d_BALAO_overhaul
Nav Map Make-Over v2.1
NMMO Airbase Add-on
NMMO v2.1 Patch 1 with AB
TDW_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1_3_SH4
#4 PE4 Ship_debris_SH4_with bodies
700 S-Boat Dazzle Color Camo
Webster's Real Lifeboats Fix for v1.5
Eye Patch for RFB
Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
Nisgeis' Range Ring and Bearing Line Mod
Webster's Missing Voices
Webster's Improved US Torpedo v1
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC
Sobers Better Texture Rocks
Historical Prop Rotation
TMO Sounds
this is my mod list as it stands right now.

TorpX · 02-04-15, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drakkhen20

RFB_2.0
RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010
RSRDC_RFB_V575
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
TMO19_interior3d_SCLASS_overhaul
TMO19_interior3d_SALMON_overhaul
TMO19_interior3d_PORPOISE_overhaul
TMO19_interior3d_GATO_USSDRUM
TMO_interior3d_BALAO_overhaul
Nav Map Make-Over v2.1
NMMO Airbase Add-on
NMMO v2.1 Patch 1 with AB
TDW_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1_3_SH4
#4 PE4 Ship_debris_SH4_with bodies
700 S-Boat Dazzle Color Camo
Webster's Real Lifeboats Fix for v1.5
Eye Patch for RFB
Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
Nisgeis' Range Ring and Bearing Line Mod
Webster's Missing Voices
Webster's Improved US Torpedo v1
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC
Sobers Better Texture Rocks
Historical Prop Rotation
TMO Sounds
this is my mod list as it stands right now.

I don't know what effect this might have on your game, but you are using the wrong version of ISP here. Improved Ship Physics 2.15 is the correct version to use with RFB + RSRDC.

In any case, I don't think the Bonus Narwhal will work with RFB 2.0. Maybe it would work with an older version of RFB, I never investigated that.

aanker · 02-04-15, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

In any case, I don't think the Bonus Narwhal will work with RFB 2.0. Maybe it would work with an older version of RFB, I never investigated that.

Regarding NARWHAL. I don't think I had to do much to get the Donation NARWHAL to work, including the very nice Vickers interior, in RFB 2.0.

Here is a post from the RFB modders forum by T.}{.O.R. :

Quote:

- I still have to do a patrol with S class in RFB so I have no suggestions there.
- What are the featured changes in the modded INI file if I may ask?
- Same for the Narwhal, once you're done with the patch I will donate to SubSim and get it so I can properly test the boat.

- About draft fixes, the file is on the FTP with the correct values for every ship in game and RFB/RSRDC, it would be my pleasure if you included them in next RFB patch.

- maybe we could film something of our own from RFB super mod (perhaps with the Donation Narwhal too) or again....

les green01 · 02-04-15, 03:49 PM

i love to have the Narwhal for tmo love the Narwhal like i do the s boats

01-28-15, 08:19 PM	#1
drakkhen20 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mississippi Posts: 650 Downloads: 345 Uploads: 0	Narwhal class has no crew.... ive downloaded the Narwhal out of bonus content and I started a single mission to test it out and to see what it looked like and it was like a ghost ship. no crew at all on bridge or below. any suggestions ??

02-01-15, 02:09 AM	#5
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Hmmm, not sure really. The individual sub type crew rosters much match up with the general crew info, or they will not show up. When I was working on the Narwhal for ISP, I had thought to use the New version you are trying to use, but there were too many problems for me to sort out. The 'old' RSRDC version was easier to deal with. Even with that I had enough problems. I could never get the crews exactly how I wanted them. Maybe someone else knows more about the crew/roster business; to me it was a huge mess, and I hated dealing with it. If you are willing to mod the crew files, I'm sure you can get it to work, but it might be more work than you're willing to take on. What other mods are you using with the Narwhal?

02-04-15, 03:49 PM	#10
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,735 Downloads: 1375 Uploads: 0	i love to have the Narwhal for tmo love the Narwhal like i do the s boats __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

01-29-15, 01:51 AM	#2
Benjamin2557 Loader Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Besançon, France Posts: 84 Downloads: 392 Uploads: 2	The problem is the .upc file.

01-29-15, 02:50 AM	#3
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	As benji said, the problem is most likely in the *.upc file (which has the crew roster for the boat). The bonus mod was made with certain conventions in this area; if your mod loadout doesn't use the same ones, problems result. The game is touchy about these things.

01-31-15, 10:52 PM	#4
drakkhen20 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mississippi Posts: 650 Downloads: 345 Uploads: 0	even if you enable it after everything in JSGM?

02-03-15, 09:22 PM	#7
drakkhen20 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mississippi Posts: 650 Downloads: 345 Uploads: 0	RFB_2.0 RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010 RSRDC_RFB_V575 RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1 TMO19_interior3d_SCLASS_overhaul TMO19_interior3d_SALMON_overhaul TMO19_interior3d_PORPOISE_overhaul TMO19_interior3d_GATO_USSDRUM TMO_interior3d_BALAO_overhaul Nav Map Make-Over v2.1 NMMO Airbase Add-on NMMO v2.1 Patch 1 with AB TDW_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_v1_3_SH4 #4 PE4 Ship_debris_SH4_with bodies 700 S-Boat Dazzle Color Camo Webster's Real Lifeboats Fix for v1.5 Eye Patch for RFB Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC Nisgeis' Range Ring and Bearing Line Mod Webster's Missing Voices Webster's Improved US Torpedo v1 Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC Sobers Better Texture Rocks Historical Prop Rotation TMO Sounds this is my mod list as it stands right now.