US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Rockstar]

I guess the good doctor should have thought twice before making unfounded accusations in a public forum. I wonder, had he known that not only is the vehicle sealed off from outside nuclear, biological and chemical threats. But the presidents compartment is also sealed off against such threats from the driver's compartment as well.

In my opinion he made a fool of himself and simply paid the price for his stupidity of running his mouth and making assumptions without really knowing what the hell he was talking about. Also just because you're diagnosed with COVID does not mean you are shedding the virus. Makes me wonder if the Doctor even had access to that kind of information.

[Skybird]

The doctor pointed at the obvious malice and carelessness. Trump repeated tbat behavioural pattern many times, for example forbidding close staff in the WH to wear masks, and so forth.



An established, repeated pattern, illustrating how much of nothing Trump gives for other peoples wellbeing and lives.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

for example forbidding close staff in the WH to wear masks

Really? Never heard that one before. Any proof of that?

[MaDef]

skybird believes it's true so it must be, even though a may 11th 2020 memo directed all staffers to wear masks except when sitting at their desks provided they were not within 6' of anyone else.

[Catfish]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=73392694

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/u...ump-masks.html

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Catfish

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=73392694

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/u...ump-masks.html

No where in those two articles is there anything that backs up Skybird's claim ..."for example forbidding close staff in the WH to wear masks."

[Catfish]

^ Please, just read some of the links. Of course not directly as an "order", and we know Trump never said what he said so no one could nail him down on any thing he said, and if you do not sense his daily mood in time, or disagree or not obey his unspoken will, you will of course be fired.
He just downplayed it and still does, makes fun of people who wear masks and is generally behaving like the [edit] responsible and dependable genius he is.
Apart from this you are perfectly right.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Please, just read some of the links.

I did. Every word in an attempt to find evidence of what Skybird said. Nowhere to be found. Look there is lots of stuff out there about Trump and the questionable things he says. Why make something up? In today's world I think that is called 'fake news'. When the dreaded Trump Derangement Syndrome causes people to invent stuff then the proverbial shark has been jumped.

[Rockstar]

Cuomo Praises Trump’s Coronavirus Response: ‘His Team Is On It’
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...team-is-on-it/


[California Governor] Newsom Praises Trump as 'Proactive' in Coronavirus Response
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/gav.../03/id/961305/

[Catfish]

re u crank
Well i wrote that you are perfectly right. A lot of people may have misunderstood Mr Trump, but of course this never was his intention. Ahem.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Catfish

re u crank
Well i wrote that you are perfectly right.

And I thank you. My beef is not with you but with Skybird who seems unwilling to defend his statement.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by u crank

And I thank you. My beef is not with you but with Skybird who seems unwilling to defend his statement.

Sky doesn't work for CNN ... He just gives them seed thoughts to scroll something without proof

[August]

Trump's Top 10 Accomplishments of 2020


Commentary by Steve Cortes


December 31, 2020

This year has been dominated by the pain and suffering thrust upon the globe by the criminal acts of the Chinese Communist Party. Even amid these harsh challenges, President Trump persevered to reach historic achievements. Therefore, as the year draws to its conclusion, it is worth detailing his 2020 accomplishments, as I have previously catalogued for each of the last three years.

1. The Vaccine. Millions of Americans have begun the process of inoculation, leading to an eventual reality where COVID-19 becomes a bad memory. The speed of this achievement defied skeptics and amazed scientists everywhere. Along with the brilliant government researchers and innovative private sector pharmaceutical companies, President Trump deserves enormous credit for his inspiring leadership of Operation Warp Speed.
2. Broadening the Nationalist Movement. The “America First” uprising pre-dated Trump’s entry into politics, with roots in the Tea Party cause. But the movement found its indispensable leader in Trump. Not content with his upstart victory of 2016, Trump massively broadened the movement, in every sense. Geographically, Trump gained vote share in each of America’s four largest cities (New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston) in 2020 vs. 2016. He added 500,000 raw new votes in Los Angeles County alone. Among the 11 million new voters rallying to Trump’s candidacy were millions of Latinos, as the president split the Hispanic vote in Florida and gained 10 percentage points over 2016 to earn 40% of the Hispanic vote in Texas. Under Trump’s leadership, in 2020 the America First cause morphed into a large, sustainable, multi-ethnic, cross-racial workers’ movement.
3. Abraham Accords. For the first time in a quarter-century, Arab nations agreed to normalized relations with Israel. President Trump harnessed diplomacy combined with toughness toward Iran to forge truly historic new ties in the region. The 2020 agreement among Israel, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain represents a massive breakthrough, one that encouraged similar pacts with Morocco and Sudan.
4. Economic Recovery. The rally from the spring lockdown lows defied all predictions, and included massive surges in home and automobile sales, as pickup truck purchases soared to all-time highs. The U.S. economic performance was the envy of the advanced world. The U.S. stock market roared back far higher than the indices of Japan, Germany, and the United Kingdom. Simply put, in 2020 the United States was an island of growth amid an economically stagnant world.
5. The Wall. Contrary to the media narrative, considerable progress has been made in building the president’s controversial border barrier, despite constant obstructionism from both Congress and the courts – and the unrelenting hostility of the press. Some 423 new miles of impressive border walling now stand guard at our southern border. Officials of Customs and Border Protection make it clear that the wall plus Trump’s “remain-in-Mexico” asylum policy regained control of our previously lawless border region.
6. Trade Agreements. For decades, our government pursued disastrous trade deals at the behest of K Street lobbyists, benefiting foreign nations plus the top executives of American multinationals, regardless of the harm to American workers. Donald Trump won the presidency vowing to fix these untenable trade structures, and in 2020 he signed the USMCA pact with our neighbors Mexico and Canada, a material improvement over the outdated and unfair NAFTA championed by bipartisan globalists. This success led to the Phase Two agreement with China as well, continuing the process of holding Beijing to account for its massive abuses of America via product dumping, industrial espionage, and a dearth of trade reciprocity.
7. Afghan Peace Deal. This commander-in-chief pursued an America First foreign policy of realism and restraint. It paid off. As made clear by the December 2019 bombshell “Afghanistan Papers,” published by the Washington Post, Trump’s predecessors misled our citizens while wasting precious American lives and treasure during that pointless two-decade war. Trump is winding down such adventurism and reached a historic peace deal with the Taliban in 2020. Despite howls from the “America Everywhere” foreign policy establishment inside the D.C. Beltway, Trump’s deal to end the Afghan war has won rare, broad, bipartisan support among voters.
8. Striking Down Terrorists. Instead of wasteful and unsuccessful mass invasions or grandiose commitments to “nation-building,” this president used surgical strikes to eradicate threats to our security. After America’s successful hit against ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in 2019, the 2020 strike against Iranian military leader and terrorism exporter Qasem Soleimani eliminated perhaps the most dangerous terrorist in the Middle East. Soleimani directly engineered the slaughter of American troops in Iraq, and he met instant justice courtesy of American missiles in an attack ordered by an intrepid commander-in-chief.
9. Space Force. The first new branch of the U.S. military in decades, President Trump showcased his vision as an unpredictable political leader in establishing Space Force as the sixth U.S. military branch as part of the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act. America now stands as the only country with an independent, dedicated military space force. Such foresight highlights Trump’s willingness to think in unconventional ways.
10. March for Life. Donald J. Trump became the first U.S. president to attend the annual massive pro-life march in Washington, solidifying his stature as the most pro-life president in American history. In so doing, he fulfilled campaign promises to protect unborn life as well as religious liberty. The president boldly declared that “every child is a precious and sacred gift from God.”

At home and abroad, President Trump proved that there is, indeed, method to his madness. Though his unorthodox and sometimes frenetic approach confounds his critics, Trump’s disruptive leadership remained highly effective in 2020, even as our country and his administration faced many unwelcome challenges. Whatever the future holds for him, the 45th U.S. president compiled a record of achievement over these last four years that is impressive and historic.


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...20_144945.html

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Please, just read some of the links. Of course not directly as an "order", and we know Trump never said what he said so no one could nail him down on any thing he said, and if you do not sense his daily mood in time, or disagree or not obey his unspoken will, you will of course be fired.
He just downplayed it and still does, makes fun of people who wear masks and is generally behaving like the [edit] responsible and dependable genius he is.
Apart from this you are perfectly right.

I agree with this message. He was not a good leader in this regard. Crazy how many of his cult followers took up this attitude.

Originally Posted by August

Trump's Top 10 Accomplishments of 2020


Commentary by Steve Cortes


December 31, 2020

This year has been dominated by the pain and suffering thrust upon the globe by the criminal acts of the Chinese Communist Party. Even amid these harsh challenges, President Trump persevered to reach historic achievements. Therefore, as the year draws to its conclusion, it is worth detailing his 2020 accomplishments, as I have previously catalogued for each of the last three years.

1. The Vaccine. Millions of Americans have begun the process of inoculation, leading to an eventual reality where COVID-19 becomes a bad memory. The speed of this achievement defied skeptics and amazed scientists everywhere. Along with the brilliant government researchers and innovative private sector pharmaceutical companies, President Trump deserves enormous credit for his inspiring leadership of Operation Warp Speed.
   
   ........................

At home and abroad, President Trump proved that there is, indeed, method to his madness. Though his unorthodox and sometimes frenetic approach confounds his critics, Trump’s disruptive leadership remained highly effective in 2020, even as our country and his administration faced many unwelcome challenges. Whatever the future holds for him, the 45th U.S. president compiled a record of achievement over these last four years that is impressive and historic.

Yeah, but he didn't build a wall, or at least, much of a wall. This was a big fail.

Some of those accomplishments are definitely noteworthy, but alas, his boneheaded response to a pandemic cost him his second term. Imagine if he had been serious and gotten infront of this in Jan/Feb, and month-long early voting and free-for-all mail in ballots had never become a "necessity".... too bad.

[Skybird]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/u...ronavirus.html


[ Yeahyeah, I know - "The source, beware the source, its the wicked NYT!" - Its not about the source, its the content of the text it gives. ]