Russian ships enter Cuban waters

12-19-08, 08:11 PM

The glorious motherland has come to pay a friendly visit.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7792370.stm

"Russian warships have entered Cuban waters for the first time since the end of the Cold War.
A Russian destroyer and two support ships sailed into Havana Bay on their way home from joint exercises with the Venezuelan navy"

Admiral Chabanenko is what the ship is called.

Oberon · 12-19-08, 08:15 PM

They crossed the blockade?!!

Oh...wait...

Frame57 · 12-19-08, 08:21 PM

Ah! let em have a good time in Havana...Poor bastards never get good liberty ports anyway.

12-19-08, 08:27 PM

With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things.

edit. Not meant as a political thread, just admiring the ship.

August · 12-19-08, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things.

Yeah, especially be sunk with a single torpedo... This is a SUBsim forum after all!

breadcatcher101 · 12-19-08, 08:43 PM

How puny Cuba's defense is, those shots fired from the fortress had no effect.

UnderseaLcpl · 12-19-08, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things.

Yeah, especially be sunk with a single torpedo... This is a SUBsim forum after all!

Indeed. I would have much preferred the article "Cuban waters enter Russian ships"

August · 12-19-08, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things.

Yeah, especially be sunk with a single torpedo... This is a SUBsim forum after all!

Indeed. I would have much preferred the article "Cuban waters enter Russian ships"

:rotfl:

nikimcbee · 12-19-08, 11:11 PM

I didn't know the Russian navy could sail that far! w/o out having a ship sink or have an accident! Good for them.

August · 12-19-08, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I didn't know the Russian navy could sail that far! w/o out having a ship sink or have an accident! Good for them.

Hey they ain't made it home yet...

Aramike · 12-20-08, 01:48 AM

Heh, an interesting display of might for a navy in shambles.

XabbaRus · 12-20-08, 06:07 AM

Funny guys, you know the Russians have been making an effort with the petro dollars to keep their most modern ships servicable so I don't get all the surprise that they made it to Cuba.

AntEater · 12-20-08, 06:16 AM

At the risk of being a bit on the "Russia STONG!11!!" side,
The russian navy currently is certainly not in shambles
We have the Kuznetsov and escorts operating in the Atlantic, Piotr Velikiy and Chanabenko in the Caribbean, Neustrashimiy in the gulf of Aden and Varyag plus escorts operating in the pacific enroute to India.
The Black Sea fleet might deploy to the med soon.
Currently the russians have more surface ships deployed than during all of the 1990s combined.
Also, during the ossetian war in summer, the black sea fleet was in operation after a day, landing troops pretty much everywhere it wanted.
This fleet included a 1960s era Kashin destroyer that certainly requires a lot of maintenance and attention.
While capital ships were limited to a cruiser, an old destroyer and some frigates, the black sea fleet still has a lot of missile boats and other corvettes plus amphibs, all of which were used.
We don't know how the russian submarine force is operating right now, but I suppose their operations have picked up as well.
While certainly not equal to the USN, the russian navy is still quite a force.
The only question is if they can keep up the pace, with those low oil prices, and if they can keep up with their replacement programs.
Those ships operating right now are all commissioned in the 1990s, but were allready laid down before the end of the USSR.
Admiral Chanabenko is the only completed Udaloy II destroyer, for example.

Jimbuna · 12-20-08, 06:37 AM

It should be interesting to see what, if anything happens next.....a bigger more important vessel or perhaps an increase in numbers next time, possibly concluding in some sort of naval exercise.

I personally don't think there is anything really significant in the Cuban visit.

That could change though if any of the above occur in the new year.

AVGWarhawk · 12-20-08, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

It should be interesting to see what, if anything happens next.....a bigger more important vessel or perhaps an increase in numbers next time, possibly concluding in some sort of naval exercise.

I personally don't think there is anything really significant in the Cuban visit.

That could change though if any of the above occur in the new year.

Russia is just flexing a muscle and picking up some fine Cuban cigars

12-19-08, 08:11 PM	#1
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Russian ships enter Cuban waters The glorious motherland has come to pay a friendly visit. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7792370.stm "Russian warships have entered Cuban waters for the first time since the end of the Cold War. A Russian destroyer and two support ships sailed into Havana Bay on their way home from joint exercises with the Venezuelan navy" Admiral Chabanenko is what the ship is called.

12-19-08, 08:27 PM	#4
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	With a ship like that, I guess one can do a lot of things. edit. Not meant as a political thread, just admiring the ship. Last edited by OneToughHerring; 12-19-08 at 08:32 PM.

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,924 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I didn't know the Russian navy could sail that far! w/o out having a ship sink or have an accident! Good for them. __________________

12-20-08, 06:07 AM	#12
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Funny guys, you know the Russians have been making an effort with the petro dollars to keep their most modern ships servicable so I don't get all the surprise that they made it to Cuba. __________________

12-20-08, 06:16 AM	#13
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	At the risk of being a bit on the "Russia STONG!11!!" side, The russian navy currently is certainly not in shambles We have the Kuznetsov and escorts operating in the Atlantic, Piotr Velikiy and Chanabenko in the Caribbean, Neustrashimiy in the gulf of Aden and Varyag plus escorts operating in the pacific enroute to India. The Black Sea fleet might deploy to the med soon. Currently the russians have more surface ships deployed than during all of the 1990s combined. Also, during the ossetian war in summer, the black sea fleet was in operation after a day, landing troops pretty much everywhere it wanted. This fleet included a 1960s era Kashin destroyer that certainly requires a lot of maintenance and attention. While capital ships were limited to a cruiser, an old destroyer and some frigates, the black sea fleet still has a lot of missile boats and other corvettes plus amphibs, all of which were used. We don't know how the russian submarine force is operating right now, but I suppose their operations have picked up as well. While certainly not equal to the USN, the russian navy is still quite a force. The only question is if they can keep up the pace, with those low oil prices, and if they can keep up with their replacement programs. Those ships operating right now are all commissioned in the 1990s, but were allready laid down before the end of the USSR. Admiral Chanabenko is the only completed Udaloy II destroyer, for example. __________________

12-19-08, 08:15 PM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	They crossed the blockade?!! Oh...wait...

12-19-08, 08:21 PM	#3
Frame57 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: 1300 feet on the crapper Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Ah! let em have a good time in Havana...Poor bastards never get good liberty ports anyway.

12-19-08, 08:43 PM	#6
breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	How puny Cuba's defense is, those shots fired from the fortress had no effect.

12-20-08, 01:48 AM	#11
Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Heh, an interesting display of might for a navy in shambles.

12-20-08, 06:37 AM	#14
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,146 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It should be interesting to see what, if anything happens next.....a bigger more important vessel or perhaps an increase in numbers next time, possibly concluding in some sort of naval exercise. I personally don't think there is anything really significant in the Cuban visit. That could change though if any of the above occur in the new year. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)