Huge pro-EU rally grips Ukraine - Page 83

HunterICX · 07-03-14, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

...there must be a lot of veterans of the Great Patriotic War having a few flashbacks.

And they're in better shape too

Oberon · 07-03-14, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

And they're in better shape too

Men of greater steel than the 'Man of Steel' who lead them.

Jimbuna · 07-03-14, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

And they're in better shape too

The Russian Rambo

TarJak · 07-12-14, 05:25 AM

Interesting piece on the current gains by Puerto Ukrainian forces and Germany's relationship with Russia:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-0...p-away/5589886

Dread Knot · 07-17-14, 10:35 AM

It's early on, but apparently an Malaysian Air jet on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, has gone down over the eastern Ukraine.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856

Dread Knot · 07-17-14, 10:44 AM

Now reports are it was shot down.

The fur will fly.

Oberon · 07-17-14, 11:10 AM

It's really not been a good year for Malaysian airlines...

If this has been shot down, and it's not unlikely. I'm willing to bet that the Ukrainian government will blame the seperatists and/or Russia, and the Russians and seperatists will blame the Ukrainian government.

Not going to be a pretty couple of days...

Dread Knot · 07-17-14, 11:13 AM

Twitter is saying that all international flights are being diverted the heck away from that airspace immediately. It just my layman's view, but it seems like that should have been the case already. I'm anticipating gallons of hogswallow from both sides in the conflict as to who is to blame.

Yeah. MAL the most luckless airline ever...

Oberon · 07-17-14, 11:17 AM

Rumours seem to indicate that it was a Buk SAM system that shot the airliner down. I had no idea that the seperatists (who are currently being blamed, since they claimed that they had shot down an aircraft at around the same time the airliner disappeared) had access to such a system.

Dread Knot · 07-17-14, 11:27 AM

Is that a system that Ukraine operates as well?

CCIP · 07-17-14, 11:41 AM

This is INCREDIBLY concerning and worrying and tragic. Quite possibly the worst thing that could've happened.

August · 07-17-14, 11:41 AM

Why would Ukraine shoot at airliners? AFAIK the seperatists don't have an airforce.

Betonov · 07-17-14, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Why would Ukraine shoot at airliners? AFAIK the seperatists don't have an airforce.

They woulndn't. Same for the rebels and Russia.

Someone screwed up horribly or the missile just found the next target after missing the primary

CCIP · 07-17-14, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Why would Ukraine shoot at airliners? AFAIK the seperatists don't have an airforce.

This may well be true, but it's also going to be difficult for them to avoid suspicion because of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia...es_Flight_1812

There is, sadly, a precedent for this kind of thing

Admiral Halsey · 07-17-14, 12:20 PM

Well this is going to make something that's already a cluster%@#^ and even bigger one. I'm placing my money on Ukraine accidentally shooting the thing down.

07-17-14, 11:41 AM	#1241
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	This is INCREDIBLY concerning and worrying and tragic. Quite possibly the worst thing that could've happened. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

07-17-14, 11:41 AM	#1242
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,667 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why would Ukraine shoot at airliners? AFAIK the seperatists don't have an airforce. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

07-12-14, 05:25 AM	#1234
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Interesting piece on the current gains by Puerto Ukrainian forces and Germany's relationship with Russia: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-0...p-away/5589886

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Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawkeye State Highlands Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	It's early on, but apparently an Malaysian Air jet on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, has gone down over the eastern Ukraine. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856

07-17-14, 10:44 AM	#1236
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawkeye State Highlands Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Now reports are it was shot down. The fur will fly.

07-17-14, 11:10 AM	#1237
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It's really not been a good year for Malaysian airlines... If this has been shot down, and it's not unlikely. I'm willing to bet that the Ukrainian government will blame the seperatists and/or Russia, and the Russians and seperatists will blame the Ukrainian government. Not going to be a pretty couple of days...

07-17-14, 11:13 AM	#1238
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawkeye State Highlands Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Twitter is saying that all international flights are being diverted the heck away from that airspace immediately. It just my layman's view, but it seems like that should have been the case already. I'm anticipating gallons of hogswallow from both sides in the conflict as to who is to blame. Yeah. MAL the most luckless airline ever...

07-17-14, 11:17 AM	#1239
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Rumours seem to indicate that it was a Buk SAM system that shot the airliner down. I had no idea that the seperatists (who are currently being blamed, since they claimed that they had shot down an aircraft at around the same time the airliner disappeared) had access to such a system.

07-17-14, 11:27 AM	#1240
Dread Knot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawkeye State Highlands Posts: 1,288 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Is that a system that Ukraine operates as well?

07-17-14, 12:20 PM	#1245
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	Well this is going to make something that's already a cluster%@#^ and even bigger one. I'm placing my money on Ukraine accidentally shooting the thing down.