a NEW problem. video card hijinx

Sledgehammer427 · 02-25-09, 07:05 PM

hello again, fellow listeners.

I got my new video card
(ATI Radeon HD 2400 with 256 on card)
today, and the whole thing is acting up (thing being computer)
there was no power outlet (only a free 2 pin slot, the fan on card already was plugged in)so that struck me as strange. Also, the card is AGP and the drivers on the site are for PCIe

problem is, it wont play any of the games that worked fine on my ATI X1600.
they all complain about directx (trying to fix right now) or being unable to "create render device"

I'm so confused. my pc is awfully troublesome.
I hope I didnt mess anything up...
OH! speaking of which, when I plugged in the monitor cable into the card, i saw something flash near the card (no static, id be dead or in cardiac arrest) and it (card, pc and everytthing else) acted fine

EDIT: if need be, i can provide a list of games i am trying to run. I'm too scared to try MOH Airborne, i dont want to see another game go down the drain

AVGWarhawk · 02-25-09, 08:14 PM

You got me confused. You removed the old card and placed in the new card, same slot yes? There was a disc to load a driver for this card in the box, no?

Reece · 02-25-09, 08:22 PM

I would have thought the X1600 was faster, I had an X1950 and have upgraded to a HD4850, though I haven't checked it out I would have thought the HD2400 rather old, maybe I'm mistaken!!

What I would have done is to uninstall the old ATI drivers and installed the new ones supplied with the card as AVGWarhawk suggests, or download the latest.

AVGWarhawk · 02-25-09, 08:33 PM

Might be right here Reece. I think the 2400 card is like a watch TV type card. Might want to check that out Sledge.

Sledgehammer427 · 02-25-09, 09:27 PM

it is for gaming too.

okay
it came with a CD, I uninstalled the old Catalyst Control Center and let the card install the new(er) one.

IL2: 1946 is for now the only game that works.
I had ATI Tray Tools on my pc before. I forgot to remove it before i installed the new card, I shut the PC off before I left, soI'll check it out when I get home

CaptainHaplo · 02-25-09, 10:28 PM

Run DXDIAG and see what the video tab shows you - is acting like directdraw or direct3d isnt working right by the sound of it.

Sledgehammer427 · 02-26-09, 06:56 AM

you are right, catainhaplo, it says

DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful.
Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x80004005 (Generic failure)
Direct3D 8 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code)
Direct3D 9 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code)

so there it is, thats the problem.
and it says gaming on the box more than watching tv.

AVGWarhawk · 02-26-09, 08:41 AM

google those failure you show there and see what it comes up with. Also, there should be some tech support via phone with you documents that came with the card.

NeonSamurai · 02-26-09, 05:31 PM

His card is alright for gaming (wouldn't expect much with agp and that card though) http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd2400/specs.html

Anyhow think I solved it for you. It seemed to be a driver issue with ATI, they released an agp hotfix for 2000 and 3000 series cards.

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...AGPHotfix.aspx

as far as i understand the hotfix is drivers (so no installing drivers after it).

Another solution is to try the 3rd party omega drivers and see if that works

http://www.driverheaven.net/windows-...ows-xp-2k.html

If none of that works then you may have a defective video card.

02-25-09, 07:05 PM	#1
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,901 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	a NEW problem. video card hijinx hello again, fellow listeners. I got my new video card (ATI Radeon HD 2400 with 256 on card) today, and the whole thing is acting up (thing being computer) there was no power outlet (only a free 2 pin slot, the fan on card already was plugged in)so that struck me as strange. Also, the card is AGP and the drivers on the site are for PCIe problem is, it wont play any of the games that worked fine on my ATI X1600. they all complain about directx (trying to fix right now) or being unable to "create render device" I'm so confused. my pc is awfully troublesome. I hope I didnt mess anything up... OH! speaking of which, when I plugged in the monitor cable into the card, i saw something flash near the card (no static, id be dead or in cardiac arrest) and it (card, pc and everytthing else) acted fine EDIT: if need be, i can provide a list of games i am trying to run. I'm too scared to try MOH Airborne, i dont want to see another game go down the drain __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

02-25-09, 08:14 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	You got me confused. You removed the old card and placed in the new card, same slot yes? There was a disc to load a driver for this card in the box, no? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-25-09, 08:22 PM	#3
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,747 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I would have thought the X1600 was faster, I had an X1950 and have upgraded to a HD4850, though I haven't checked it out I would have thought the HD2400 rather old, maybe I'm mistaken!! What I would have done is to uninstall the old ATI drivers and installed the new ones supplied with the card as AVGWarhawk suggests, or download the latest. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

02-25-09, 08:33 PM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Might be right here Reece. I think the 2400 card is like a watch TV type card. Might want to check that out Sledge. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-25-09, 09:27 PM	#5
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,901 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	it is for gaming too. okay it came with a CD, I uninstalled the old Catalyst Control Center and let the card install the new(er) one. IL2: 1946 is for now the only game that works. I had ATI Tray Tools on my pc before. I forgot to remove it before i installed the new card, I shut the PC off before I left, soI'll check it out when I get home __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

02-25-09, 10:28 PM	#6
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Run DXDIAG and see what the video tab shows you - is acting like directdraw or direct3d isnt working right by the sound of it. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

02-26-09, 06:56 AM	#7
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,901 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	you are right, catainhaplo, it says DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x80004005 (Generic failure) Direct3D 8 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code) Direct3D 9 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code) so there it is, thats the problem. and it says gaming on the box more than watching tv. __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

02-26-09, 08:41 AM	#8
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	google those failure you show there and see what it comes up with. Also, there should be some tech support via phone with you documents that came with the card. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-26-09, 05:31 PM	#9
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	His card is alright for gaming (wouldn't expect much with agp and that card though) http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd2400/specs.html Anyhow think I solved it for you. It seemed to be a driver issue with ATI, they released an agp hotfix for 2000 and 3000 series cards. http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...AGPHotfix.aspx as far as i understand the hotfix is drivers (so no installing drivers after it). Another solution is to try the 3rd party omega drivers and see if that works http://www.driverheaven.net/windows-...ows-xp-2k.html If none of that works then you may have a defective video card. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff