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02-18-13, 03:14 PM | #1 |
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02-18-13, 04:44 PM | #2 |
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02-18-13, 04:47 PM | #3 | ||
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Pity about the crap ordnance she carried
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02-18-13, 05:11 PM | #4 | |
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Of course you could also say that given the nature of the Cold War the Lightning was around to give Soviet Long Range Aviation something to worry about and from that stand point the Lighting did a good job.It should aslo be taken into account that of all nations that have employed missile armed interceptors there have only been a handful of combat intercepts of bombers too few to truly evaluate effectiveness. You would have to go back and look at WWII air combat to have solid enough numbers on such aircraft(in the interception role) and of course the Luftwaffe is kind of bomber interception. The F-15 on the other hand has a ratio of 105.5:0 (though supposedly an JADF F-15 shot down another JDAF F-15 by accident once and two USAF F-15Cs once collided in mind air during 4 vs. 4 training). As you say as well two different aircraft designed 20 years apart with a differing concept of role.The F-15 was originally designed to be an air superiority fighter(or killing the enemies ability to control air space namely killing fighter aircraft).The F-15 of course can strictly intercept of course but at the time of its design another aircraft the F-106 had this specific duty.Being an air superiority fighter the F-15 needs it agility in both speed and maneuverability.The F-15 has an unfair advantage as well because it used missiles that had over 95% reliability so when an F-15 fires a missile the odds are very high that another aircraft is about to become scrap."F-15 leading supplier of MiG spare parts" The Lighting on the other hand was designed to intercept bombers and therefore only needed agility in the area of speed and namely climbing it did not need to dog fight. The Lighting has the advantage of being the best looking 2nd generation jet fighter and is easily the second best looking British designed jet fighter(Hawker Hunter is number 1) and that is easily worth 20,000 points. Last edited by Stealhead; 02-18-13 at 05:31 PM. |
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02-18-13, 06:14 PM | #5 |
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Do you know if the Lightning had the same/similar rolling problem that the MiG-21 has? I read that MiG-21 pilots had to be really careful when they rolled or they could start an uncontrolable roll
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02-18-13, 06:16 PM | #6 |
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Its not really fair to compare the Lightning with the F-15 since they are a generation apart.
If you compare the Lightning with others airplanes of its generation, i.e. Mig-17,-19,-21 or F-100,-104,-4, Mirage III, it fares better. It had equal or better performance/radar than its contemporaries. Only the F-4 would be a superior all around fighter.
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Mediocre acceleration and climb eh? I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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02-18-13, 09:03 PM | #9 | |
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Plus it could take beating and still fly back to base.
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02-19-13, 11:05 AM | #10 | |
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And if we're actually keeping scores then to be more accurate it would be Lightning 0 : Fire Lots. A recommended read - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lightning-Bo.../dp/190811715X
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