Wuhan virus 2020 - Page 344

Jimbuna · 10-20-20, 05:42 AM

Jimbuna · 10-20-20, 07:19 AM

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The UK is pushing ahead to be the first nation to carry out "human challenge" studies where up to 90 healthy people will be deliberately exposed to Covid.

The trials, which could begin in January, aim to speed up the race to get a Covid-19 vaccine.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54612293

I've a suspicion I've read of this somewhere previously but I certainly wouldn't want to be one of those taking part.

Skybird · 10-20-20, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I've a suspicion I've read of this somewhere previously but I certainly wouldn't want to be one of those taking part.

Too much shyness spoils the show, Jim.

C'mon, ain't there no hunger for some game in you?

Jimbuna · 10-20-20, 10:23 AM

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Too much shyness spoils the show, Jim.

C'mon, ain't there no hunger for some game in you?

Not at my age but perhaps ten years ago.

Jimbuna · 10-20-20, 10:28 AM

Talks on restrictions in Greater Manchester have ended without agreement and additional curbs are now expected to be imposed.

PM is to hold news conference at 17:00 BST with NHS England's Stephen Powis and medical adviser Prof Jonathan Van-Tam.

Before that, Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham is giving his own televised statement at a news conference in Manchester.

There have been 10 days of talks over moving Greater Manchester to tier three restrictions - a move that affects 2.8m people.

It is estimated that the tier three measures will mean that 1,809 pus will have to close their doors in the Greater Manchester region.

Jimbuna · 10-20-20, 11:21 AM

PM: Greater Manchester to enter tier 3 from early hours of Friday
Boris Johnson now takes over.

He says Greater Manchester will move to the very high alert level -tier three.

He says this mean pubs and bars will close unless they are serving substantial meals and he strongly advises people against travel into and out of the area.

These new measures will come into force on Friday just after midnight, he says.

Further 241 deaths announced in the UK
A further 21,331 coronavirus cases in the UK have been announced by the government, taking the UK's total to 762,542.

The official figures also announce a further 241 deaths.

These include 213 in England, 15 in Scotland, 10 in Wales and three in Northern Ireland.

August · 10-20-20, 11:36 AM

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I've a suspicion I've read of this somewhere previously but I certainly wouldn't want to be one of those taking part.

How much does it pay? Adequate compensation for a relatively low short term risk.

Jimbuna · 10-20-20, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by August

How much does it pay? Adequate compensation for a relatively low short term risk.

According to the article (linked below)

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If Open Orphan moves on to vaccine trials, it will aim to recruit around 500 participants altogether, but Friel says the company will need to screen many times more people to identify suitable volunteers. An ethical review board will determine how to compensate participants. Open Orphan typically pays volunteers around £4,000 for their time, says Catchpole.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02821-4

I can't see any mention of a timeline but either way, £4,000 is nowhere near enough in my estimation.

August · 10-20-20, 12:13 PM

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According to the article (linked below)

I can't see any mention of a timeline but either way, £4,000 is nowhere near enough in my estimation.

Agree 100%. Now if it were 4 million or even 400k that might be different.

Jimbuna · 10-20-20, 12:18 PM

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Agree 100%. Now if it were 4 million or even 400k that might be different.

I suppose it depends on how much value an individual puts on their life.

August · 10-20-20, 02:07 PM

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I suppose it depends on how much value an individual puts on their life.

People risk their lives for a lot less than that.

Platapus · 10-20-20, 05:57 PM

Johns Hopkins just published an interesting article about what is tentatively called "Long COVID" which goes into the longer lasting effects of COVID. It could have been written about my Boss?

It is an interesting read.

Skybird · 10-21-20, 02:50 AM

If so, then JH is late, Long Covid, under this and other names, is being described since months.

Jimbuna · 10-21-20, 05:54 AM

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People risk their lives for a lot less than that.

Oh I agree but not me, not at this stage of my life

Jimbuna · 10-21-20, 06:00 AM

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Talks on restrictions in Greater Manchester have ended without agreement and additional curbs are now expected to be imposed. PM is to hold news conference at 17:00 BST with NHS England's Stephen Powis and medical adviser Prof Jonathan Van-Tam. Before that, Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham is giving his own televised statement at a news conference in Manchester. There have been 10 days of talks over moving Greater Manchester to tier three restrictions - a move that affects 2.8m people. It is estimated that the tier three measures will mean that 1,809 pus will have to close their doors in the Greater Manchester region. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	PM: Greater Manchester to enter tier 3 from early hours of Friday Boris Johnson now takes over. He says Greater Manchester will move to the very high alert level -tier three. He says this mean pubs and bars will close unless they are serving substantial meals and he strongly advises people against travel into and out of the area. These new measures will come into force on Friday just after midnight, he says. Further 241 deaths announced in the UK A further 21,331 coronavirus cases in the UK have been announced by the government, taking the UK's total to 762,542. The official figures also announce a further 241 deaths. These include 213 in England, 15 in Scotland, 10 in Wales and three in Northern Ireland. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,970 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Johns Hopkins just published an interesting article about what is tentatively called "Long COVID" which goes into the longer lasting effects of COVID. It could have been written about my Boss? It is an interesting read. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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