Windows 10: What You Need to Know

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by R.R.BBY

Windows 10 adoption rate has now dropped below that adoption rate for Windows 7 the same number of days after introduction. In addition, see the above. In spite of completely predatory push to get everyone to use a free product, they can't equal the sales of a $100 item. Pretty sad.

Actually when I tapped the "later BBY" as opposed to the "now " button, it started down-loading. I was pissed at the BigBrother pushiness and blew ballast ASAP: ALT/CNTR/DEL to prevent an unwanted intrusion! IT's free now: My mantra is: "The sweetness of price (free)is often made bitter later by the poorness of quality." and I hate repeat lessons from an industry that operate$ on the profit motive-at my expense...

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I know this is a dumb question, but to install Win 7, and remove Win 10, I have to....reformat the c drive first? If not, will installing Win 7 affect my hard drive contents and programs?

Even though it's a true upgrade, there is no upgrade path from Windows 10 to Windows 7. Also the different boot systems, UEFI vs BIOS means that the drive is formatted differently. That means at the very least that your partitions have to be resized for the introduction of the BIOS dependent Master Boot Record (MBR) on your boot disk.

But even if you did that you would lose your programs and data on installation. So first, download Belarc Advisor and run it, printing out its entire output. Belarc gives you a complete inventory of hardware and software on your machine. This will give you all the software on your machine along with any software licenses and authorization keys. Then you get an alphabetical list of every piece of installed software.

Secondly, locate all your data and back it up. I always make a total disk image, so if I forget some data hidden away in an unexpected place I can copy it back later.

Thirdly you'll have to get rid of UEFI and reinstitute the BIOS routines in your computer. UEFI is a Microsoft scheme to make it as difficult as possible to use competitive operating systems, including their own Windows 7.

Then you want to do a clean install of Windows 7, install all your software (you have a great checklist, thanks to Belarc, so you don't miss any). Finally, copy all your data back into the right places in your freshly upgraded Windows 7 system.

It's fairly complicated but isn't difficult. And the result will be that your operating system will serve your needs instead serving you for dinner. The Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man" said all you need to know about Windows 10.

[aanker]

On my next computer, my plan is to find/build a decent (old school) gaming rig, put in a blank hard drive after getting and burning the necessary drivers the future computer needs, and install Win 7 on it.

That $70.00 bucks I spent a few months ago seems worthwhile after reading these and other posts. The disk is ready and waiting.

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

I hate repeat lessons from an industry that operate$ on the profit motive-at my expense...

Now let's not make this into some anti-capitalism crusade. Granted, capitalism is the worst system in the world to benefit all the people living under it, if you first eliminate EVERY OTHER ECONOMIC SYSTEM ON EARTH.

Capitalism is the free exchange of money for goods and services without coercion, subterfuge, fraud, or compulsion on either side. Legitimate profit is the product of service to humanity to the standards of those being served. As soon as you introduce compulsion (Obamacare) or coercion (Mafia protection) or fraud (homeopathic medicine) you no longer have capitalism, you have organized crime. In true capitalism both the production and consumption ends of the spectrum are purely voluntary with purchases made out of free will and products made to attract people to gladly spend their money.

Evidence of a true capitalistic exchange if if someone buys an Apple iPhone for double what it's really worth, then braggs about it to all their friends, who buy iPhones for themselves. Think what you want about iPhones (I don't buy Apple products) but this is what capitalism does. Even China is a major market for iPhones and they're not exacly capitalists, are they?

Capitalism has done more good for humanity than all other economic systems combined and will continue to do so in spite of the warpage bad people put on it.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Now let's not make this into some anti-capitalism crusade. Granted, capitalism is the worst system in the world to benefit all the people living under it, if you first eliminate EVERY OTHER ECONOMIC SYSTEM ON EARTH.

Capitalism is the free exchange of money for goods and services without coercion, subterfuge, fraud, or compulsion on either side. Legitimate profit is the product of service to humanity to the standards of those being served. As soon as you introduce compulsion (Obamacare) or coercion (Mafia protection) or fraud (homeopathic medicine) you no longer have capitalism, you have organized crime. In true capitalism both the production and consumption ends of the spectrum are purely voluntary with purchases made out of free will and products made to attract people to gladly spend their money.

Evidence of a true capitalistic exchange if if someone buys an Apple iPhone for double what it's really worth, then braggs about it to all their friends, who buy iPhones for themselves. Think what you want about iPhones (I don't buy Apple products) but this is what capitalism does. Even China is a major market for iPhones and they're not exacly capitalists, are they?

Capitalism has done more good for humanity than all other economic systems combined and will continue to do so in spite of the warpage bad people put on it.

OH! a pro-capitalism crusade! Always acceptable! I'll have a Manhattan wid 'dat!

[AVGWarhawk]

I had Cyberpower make me a new computer. Windows 10 was loaded. No bloatware. I'm not a cheerleader for Windows 10 nor find it that great or better than any previous OS versions with exception of Windows 8. Hell, my computer with Vista was a great machine. At any rate, Windows 10 is going to be on your drive before long because support of OS past lose just that....support. And, no, I do not care that MS is collecting or has my information. Three credit bureaus have my information. The DMV has my information. Hell, my first call to Farmers for car insurance the agent told me in under a minute what cars I currently own. I only gave him my license number. I could find on the internet my past home addresses for the last 3 decades long before Windows 10 arrived. I'm not really sure the Rise of the Guardians is being presented here. Your info is out there already.

[Aktungbby]

I'm not really sure the Rise of the Guardians is being presented here. Your info is out there already.

<no wonder u love that car! ....no damn computer!i just had to replace a cracked motherboard on my '05 Corolla fuel computer...couldn't reregister it until obeying the recall notice...instantly cleared on the SMOG station's computer! I don't mind being owned I just wanna know who owns me! The FastPasses for the bridges are monitor'd now on all CA highway sensor to study traffic patterns and similar 'study camera's record your license plate #such info to be used...privately!!! Jack Aubrey: " What a fascinating modern age we live in" rings a little ironically, as my wife and I enjoy the electronic Aubrey novels, blue-toothed to the car's speakers from her tablet on long trips.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

<no wonder u love that car! ....no damn computer!i just had to replace a cracked motherboard on my '05 Corolla fuel computer...couldn't reregister it until obeying the recall notice...instantly cleared on the SMOG station's computer! I don't mind being owned I just wanna know who owns me! The FastPasses for the bridges are monitor'd now on all CA highway sensor to study traffic patterns and similar 'study camera's record your license plate #such info to be used...privately!!! Jack Aubrey: " What a fascinating modern age we live in" rings a little ironically, as my wife and I enjoy the electronic Aubrey novels, blue-toothed to the car's speakers from her tablet on long trips.

The 54 Buick is a very dependable 60 year old vehicle. Has never let me down. However, today's vehicles are a far cry better in many regards.

The tolls here in MD also record your tag as you pass through the booth. And, if you don't pay at the Easypass booth a nice letter with picture plus a balance due is sent to your home.

Your's truly getting a top 25 award at a car show that had 650+ entries:

[aanker]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

....... Three credit bureaus have my information. The DMV has my information. Hell, my first call to Farmers for car insurance the agent told me in under a minute what cars I currently own. I only gave him my license number. I could find on the internet my past home addresses for the last 3 decades long before Windows 10 arrived. I'm not really sure the Rise of the Guardians is being presented here. Your info is out there already.

It doesn't need to be. You can get your exposed information removed from 95% of all of your public listings if you don't mind doing a little cleaning, or hire an outfit like https://www.safeshepherd.com/ to remove your exposed personal information.
The Government records are difficult to scrub, but we're mostly talking about collection of personal data for targeted advertising and other non Gov't information uses.
I like my privacy. I like old Buick's too : )
Congratulations BTW, you deserve that award from exterior appearances in the above photo.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by aanker

On my next computer, my plan is to find/build a decent (old school) gaming rig, put in a blank hard drive after getting and burning the necessary drivers the future computer needs, and install Win 7 on it.

That $70.00 bucks I spent a few months ago seems worthwhile after reading these and other posts. The disk is ready and waiting.

Good plan, so did I just two weeks ago. Just be sure you do as I recommended earlier and update Win7 to SP1 standard via a patch collection from a non-MS source, then keep that rig isolated from the web as far as possible. If you still do Windows 7 updates then (for as long as they are still coming), do them always manually only, never automatically, and hand-select them with time delay, after investigating their numbers. MS abuses more and more of these &quot;harmnless&quot; updates as carriers for infesting your W7 with W10 related stuff and spyware. For your surfing needs, go dual boot and Linux. Same regarding all non-game software, as long as you find alternatives for Windows software under Linux. For image editing, there is Gimp (and some more), for office work and text editing, there is Libre Office (which i like more than Open Office). As long as you are no specialised pro using some specialised software, you do not need Windows. Heck even most Windows servers I think are running under Linux. Ordinary private users just writing letters, ordering online, surfing internet newspapers, and sorting their photos, also do not need Windows. --- In the end, W10 is a pest with pre-announcement. We could have seen it coming, if only we would have wanted to see it. And some of us - a minority - have. People never cared for MS getting worse and worse, and so helped MS to get strong enough to now dominate an almost monopolised market. Those people not having been critical - get what they deserve with W10. If you help to build monopoles like this, even if you just do not care fopr them getting built, do not complain if you get bitten by it later on. I am all for capitalism, but even although capitalism seems to have an inbuild tendency for monopole-building, monopoles are the death of capitalism. Like life has a tendency to get old, weak, ill, and finally dies. We cannot avoid it, still we better fight against it: true for death, true for monopoles. And always comes new life, and hopefully always monopoles get destroyed sooner or later - if needed: even by force and violence. But those people who today say they do not care about W10, will be the same who also do not mind to get chips transplanted under their skin or bar codes printed into their necks. Always assuming the best and boastign with their "optimism", they are invulnerable to any historically precedent serving as an exmaple for how evil and criminal monpopolists and governments can become - and sooner or later always seem to become for sure.

[Jeff-Groves]

I don't have a problem with Win 10 or the spying crap.
If you don't want anyone to know what your doing stay off the 'Net!
I type in all kinds of crap in a search just to set up an insanity defense myself.


See. I know people are watching. I'm just not paranoid about it.
I got nothing to hide aside from the few hookers I choked to death.
They'll never find them as deep as I buried them in Pearland.

[Rockin Robbins]

The problem is that the primary function of an operating system should be to quietly organize your options and help you run the software on your computer. As recently as Windows 7,Windows did that.

Now the primary function of Windows is to try to sell you stuff. More than half the tiles on what used to be your start menu are advertising.

The secondary function of Windows 10 is data collection. It is a keylogger. It records audio from your microphone even when you are not using a program which uses the microphone. They do the same thing with your webcam. Then twice a day all that collected information is compacted, encrypted and sent to Microsoft. Equating that with information provided to insurance companies is really ludicrous. We're talking about invasion of privacy way beyond anything reasonable. Then add in the p2p style update system where your bandwidth is used to upload updates to complete strangers at your expense, the automatic login of people on various friends lists to your personal wireless network--all this adds up to an OS which no longer serves its customers. It preys upon them.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

The problem is that the primary function of an operating system should be to quietly organize your options and help you run the software on your computer. As recently as Windows 7,Windows did that.

Now the primary function of Windows is to try to sell you stuff. More than half the tiles on what used to be your start menu are advertising.

The secondary function of Windows 10 is data collection. It is a keylogger. It records audio from your microphone even when you are not using a program which uses the microphone. They do the same thing with your webcam. Then twice a day all that collected information is compacted, encrypted and sent to Microsoft. Equating that with information provided to insurance companies is really ludicrous. We're talking about invasion of privacy way beyond anything reasonable. Then add in the p2p style update system where your bandwidth is used to upload updates to complete strangers at your expense, the automatic login of people on various friends lists to your personal wireless network--all this adds up to an OS which no longer serves its customers. It preys upon them.

You are telling this to a guy who puts his FastTraK in a mylar bag so sensors won't trace his movements on CA highways!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I don't have a problem with Win 10 or the spying crap.
If you don't want anyone to know what your doing stay off the 'Net!
I type in all kinds of crap in a search just to set up an insanity defense myself.


See. I know people are watching. I'm just not paranoid about it.
I got nothing to hide aside from the few hookers I choked to death.
They'll never find them as deep as I buried them in Pearland.

Once you find insurrances rejecting you as a customer, and this being due to you having talked about your life in a private talk, or you cannot find a job in a profession for similiar reasons - you will stop laughing. Like there is a policy of making people vulnerable and exposed tio state plundering by enforcing digital money and banning cash money, there is a comparable reason why so many companies and especially insurrances propagate the idea of a networking world where everybody is constantly being online and is overwatched and has no privacy anymore.

---

This is not 1984. It is far worse already, because it is subtle, omnipresent, and the evil comes with a smiling face. When you point finger at it, it will be you that people are wondering and laughing about, not the evil that you point at. Against wickedness that yells and threatens, you can protest, and it is easy to be recognised. But when it comes with charms, and flatters people, when it must not hide in shadows but is invited into the spotlights and gets applauded, then you can not defend yourself against it, cannot mobilise peopel against it, cannot organise resistence to it. And you slowly get strangled by it from behind while it friendly smiles in your face.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by aanker

It doesn't need to be. You can get your exposed information removed from 95% of all of your public listings if you don't mind doing a little cleaning, or hire an outfit like https://www.safeshepherd.com/ to remove your exposed personal information.
The Government records are difficult to scrub, but we're mostly talking about collection of personal data for targeted advertising and other non Gov't information uses.
I like my privacy. I like old Buick's too : )
Congratulations BTW, you deserve that award from exterior appearances in the above photo.

I don't mind the non-government collecting of my data for targeted advertising. I liken it to TV were certain programming leads to certain type of advertising. The collecting of this data has not disrupted my day to day. I don't feel my privacy has been invaded in this regard.

Thank you! If you like the exterior, the interior will make you happy as well. She is 100% restored to exactly as she left factory, as well as the dealer( I have the original sales receipt). The purchaser added WW tires, had the roof painted white, flexible steering wheel and undercoating. It was one great day to have taken a top 25 in a field of top notch cars.