Feedback from pro IT insiders on patching quality for W10: DEVASTATING

Skybird · 07-23-18, 11:44 AM

60-70% being not satisfied and totally not satisfied. It hardly can be a more drastic verdict for MS. Just 18-20% satisfied or very satisfied.

And that was BEFORE the arrival of the especially lousy bunch of patches for July.

https://www.askwoody.com/2018/patch-...atcher-survey/

Personally, I have given up on W10 and am glad that I just play some games under its rule. I shrug the shoulders when the system once again fails me due to some Windows subcomponent again bluescreening me, even the anger of having spent so much money for it meanwhile has surrendered to fatalism and apathy. One thing is certain however: this was the last Windows machine in my life that I bought last November. When this hardware dies in some years, that was it for me with Windows gaming then.

To hell with Microsoft. Customer-hostile, and by now extremely dilettantic and apparently incompetent, may it be due to lacking expertise, may it be due to stupid management: the result is what counts, and the result stinks to heaven. But always a big mouth and plenty of propaganda lies and cheating on customers. Basterds.

The great days of Windows were XP SP2+3 and even more (since being more stable): W7. That was the golden era. After that Nadalla decided to nuke it.

Reece · 07-23-18, 06:52 PM

I still use my old XP machine every day, I purchased a new Windows 10 machine that has duel boot with Ubuntu Linux, I only time to time use Linux on it.
Problem is there is no drivers for the new machine to run XP or I would install that instead of Win 10, like you, I hate it!!

Skybird · 08-03-18, 03:20 PM

Susan Bradley, who has 20 years of professional experience with examining and criticising bogged Windows patches and in the English-speaking Windows support world is a very known name, sent her results to Microsoft meanwhile. Even I had already heard of her long years before Rockin Robbins linked me to Woody's blog. Windows XP days I talk of, that long she is around at least. And she is super-pro on her matter.

She now got answers that must have made her so angry that she has agreed to publish the emails. They drip with Microsoft's condescension and show that this arrogant company has completely lost any connection to customers' reality, and prefers to just spill on and on its stinking propaganda new-speak into the world.

Complete loss of sense for reality. But the condescending tone really is the crown that tops it all. Its arrogant behaviour like this that makes me want to stop talking to somebody in front of me and instead start kicking his teeth much deeper in.

https://www.computerworld.com/articl...-responds.html

STEED · 08-03-18, 03:44 PM

If this is such a terrible mess the main stream news is not reporting it, why?

And if the figures of dissatisfaction is so high surly this would ring alarm bells at MS. Clearly they know they can get away with it because the general public world wide is not kicking up a stink. So what of businesses, surly it must be hitting them in the wallet. Seems to me the backlash is nothing more than a fart in a elevator.

I'm afraid to say SKY all your wrath towards MS is a wast of time until such times MS feels the heat big time but until then the Ice Age is here and they will continual on their marry way.

Care to note this is just the way it looks to me about their messy patches. As for their spying well they are not the only one on that band wagon.

Skybird · 08-03-18, 04:13 PM

Note that Bradley was excluzsiuvely about the broken technology in the patches. Last month ALL their patches and patches of patches were broken.

You must see it from companies' perspective: for them,. nonö.functiuonal stations and brokmjen softwar environment translates into work not getting done, customers getting driven away, it translates directlyas and idnirectly into loss of money. Not to mention the over-hours and over-hours the IT departments and tech guys have to run in order to find workaround, pevent broken BS getting downlaode dna dn installed, tryxing to fix and repair the least wave of mess and dilletantism that Microsoft has enforced to unload on machines that are not theirs.

For small businesses that are too small to have their own IT department, the small shop kepper and service provide, the failures of Microsoft can threaten their very existence, or reduce their monthly income signficantly, and make them lose customers of which they may not have as many as if they just can shrug their shoulders and forget about it. If you enter your business office and find your IT has breoken down or you cannot communciate withg your staff or customers or printers do not print or your database got compromised or... or... or...

For you and me, its just about gaming. Entertainment. Fun with a console. There are many people who need fucntional computer hardware to earn their monthly living. Preferrable without needing to invest eight additional hours per week just for repairing Windows, cleaning the mess it left in the kitchen, and/or paying significant sums of money in the process of rreapring damage that would not be there if Microsoft would have done its homework properly. These days they do not even seem to have a beta testing team worth the name anymore.

Microsoft does what Microsoft is, no surprise therefore. I would just wish people start to draw consequences in bigger numbers. If one wants Microsoft leaving the market and software developers starting to develope for other OS in bigger quantity, this can only be achieved by REDFUCING THE DEMAND. But most people are only caring about finding excuses for not doing so. And that in the end is at the cost OF ALL.

Dowly · 08-04-18, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

But most people are only caring about finding excuses for not doing so.

You being one of them.

07-23-18, 11:44 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,504 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Feedback from pro IT insiders on patching quality for W10: DEVASTATING 60-70% being not satisfied and totally not satisfied. It hardly can be a more drastic verdict for MS. Just 18-20% satisfied or very satisfied. And that was BEFORE the arrival of the especially lousy bunch of patches for July. https://www.askwoody.com/2018/patch-...atcher-survey/ Personally, I have given up on W10 and am glad that I just play some games under its rule. I shrug the shoulders when the system once again fails me due to some Windows subcomponent again bluescreening me, even the anger of having spent so much money for it meanwhile has surrendered to fatalism and apathy. One thing is certain however: this was the last Windows machine in my life that I bought last November. When this hardware dies in some years, that was it for me with Windows gaming then. To hell with Microsoft. Customer-hostile, and by now extremely dilettantic and apparently incompetent, may it be due to lacking expertise, may it be due to stupid management: the result is what counts, and the result stinks to heaven. But always a big mouth and plenty of propaganda lies and cheating on customers. Basterds. The great days of Windows were XP SP2+3 and even more (since being more stable): W7. That was the golden era. After that Nadalla decided to nuke it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-23-18, 06:52 PM	#2
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,752 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	I still use my old XP machine every day, I purchased a new Windows 10 machine that has duel boot with Ubuntu Linux, I only time to time use Linux on it. Problem is there is no drivers for the new machine to run XP or I would install that instead of Win 10, like you, I hate it!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

08-03-18, 03:20 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,504 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Susan Bradley, who has 20 years of professional experience with examining and criticising bogged Windows patches and in the English-speaking Windows support world is a very known name, sent her results to Microsoft meanwhile. Even I had already heard of her long years before Rockin Robbins linked me to Woody's blog. Windows XP days I talk of, that long she is around at least. And she is super-pro on her matter. She now got answers that must have made her so angry that she has agreed to publish the emails. They drip with Microsoft's condescension and show that this arrogant company has completely lost any connection to customers' reality, and prefers to just spill on and on its stinking propaganda new-speak into the world. Complete loss of sense for reality. But the condescending tone really is the crown that tops it all. Its arrogant behaviour like this that makes me want to stop talking to somebody in front of me and instead start kicking his teeth much deeper in. https://www.computerworld.com/articl...-responds.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-03-18, 03:44 PM	#4
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	If this is such a terrible mess the main stream news is not reporting it, why? And if the figures of dissatisfaction is so high surly this would ring alarm bells at MS. Clearly they know they can get away with it because the general public world wide is not kicking up a stink. So what of businesses, surly it must be hitting them in the wallet. Seems to me the backlash is nothing more than a fart in a elevator. I'm afraid to say SKY all your wrath towards MS is a wast of time until such times MS feels the heat big time but until then the Ice Age is here and they will continual on their marry way. Care to note this is just the way it looks to me about their messy patches. As for their spying well they are not the only one on that band wagon. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

08-03-18, 04:13 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,504 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Note that Bradley was excluzsiuvely about the broken technology in the patches. Last month ALL their patches and patches of patches were broken. You must see it from companies' perspective: for them,. nonö.functiuonal stations and brokmjen softwar environment translates into work not getting done, customers getting driven away, it translates directlyas and idnirectly into loss of money. Not to mention the over-hours and over-hours the IT departments and tech guys have to run in order to find workaround, pevent broken BS getting downlaode dna dn installed, tryxing to fix and repair the least wave of mess and dilletantism that Microsoft has enforced to unload on machines that are not theirs. For small businesses that are too small to have their own IT department, the small shop kepper and service provide, the failures of Microsoft can threaten their very existence, or reduce their monthly income signficantly, and make them lose customers of which they may not have as many as if they just can shrug their shoulders and forget about it. If you enter your business office and find your IT has breoken down or you cannot communciate withg your staff or customers or printers do not print or your database got compromised or... or... or... For you and me, its just about gaming. Entertainment. Fun with a console. There are many people who need fucntional computer hardware to earn their monthly living. Preferrable without needing to invest eight additional hours per week just for repairing Windows, cleaning the mess it left in the kitchen, and/or paying significant sums of money in the process of rreapring damage that would not be there if Microsoft would have done its homework properly. These days they do not even seem to have a beta testing team worth the name anymore. Microsoft does what Microsoft is, no surprise therefore. I would just wish people start to draw consequences in bigger numbers. If one wants Microsoft leaving the market and software developers starting to develope for other OS in bigger quantity, this can only be achieved by REDFUCING THE DEMAND. But most people are only caring about finding excuses for not doing so. And that in the end is at the cost OF ALL. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.