Wuhan virus 2020

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54696873

The Imperial College London team found the number of people testing positive for antibodies has fallen by 26% between June and September.

They say immunity appears to be fading and there is a risk of catching the virus multiple times.
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More than 350,000 people in England have taken an antibody test as part of the REACT-2 study so far.

In the first round of testing, at the end of June and the beginning of July, about 60 in 1,000 people had detectable antibodies.

But in the latest set of tests, in September, only 44 per 1,000 people were positive.

It suggests the number of people with antibodies fell by more than a quarter between summer and autumn.

Cheers.
I suggest you pamper your immune systems, guys. Vaccines, herd immunity, antibodies - all that stands on shaky legs only. What it gets down to by the end of the day, is you, the virus and your only real weapon to fight it off: your immune system. If this is not the right time to give it a big dose of love - when then...?

[Jimbuna]

There are two camps here in the UK (possibly in most other countries as well.

One camp is hoping for a vaccine cure and the other favours herd immunity.

The UK Government are currently supporting the former.

[Rockstar]

I strong immune system is indeed paramount. The reason I went to Florida last week was to take care of my mom who tested positive for COVID, she's 81. After having a fever for two days, general malaise, and a very poor appetite. Now she's back to racing down I-95 with the top down in her Cadillac XLR.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I strong immune system is indeed paramount. The reason I went to Florida last week was to take care of my mom who tested positive for COVID, she's 81. After having a fever for two days, general malaise, and a very poor appetite. Now she's back to racing down I-95 with the top down in her Cadillac XLR.

Extremely pleased to learn of it

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Rockstar]

Meanwhile Chancellor Angela Merkel's centre-right CDU party said it was considering postponing its December 4th congress for 1,000 delegates, who are set to choose a new party leader and possible Merkel successor. Merkelreich must survive for the good of the greater German Empire... err I mean the E.U.

WOW. A lot of people here have wrongfully accused a certain leader of such shenanigans. But Germany's Fuehrer aunty Merkel without hesitation comes right out and announces a plan to postpone elections! And not one peep here from the peanut gallery of freedom and democracy.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

centre-right CDU

[Skybird]

Empirial College London releases a study in The Lancet featuring the so far most advanced analysis of what kind of non-pharmaceutical interventions have what kind of effects on bringing down the R-value over what ammount of time.



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...785-4/fulltext

According to the results from the main analysis, a decreasing trend over time in the R ratio was found in the first 14 days following the introduction of school closure, workplace closure, public events bans, requirements to stay at home, and internal movement limits (figure 3); the reduction in R ranged from 3% to 24% on day 28 following the introduction (table 1). The introduction of a public events ban was associated with the highest reduction in R; the R ratio was 0·90 (95% CI 0·82–0·99) on day 7, 0·83 (0·68–1·00) on day 14, and 0·76 (0·58–1·00) on day 28 (table 1). An increasing trend over time in the R ratio was found following the relaxation of school closure, bans on public events, bans on public gatherings of more than ten people, requirements to stay at home, and internal movement limits, especially after the first week after relaxation; the increase in R ranged from 11% to 25% on day 28 following the relaxation (figure 3). The relaxation of school closure was associated with the greatest increase in R on day 7 (R ratio 1·05, 95% CI 0·96–1·14) and day 14 (1·18, 1·02–1·36). The relaxation of a ban on gatherings of more than ten people was associated with the greatest increase in R on day 28, with an R ratio of 1·25 (95% CI 1·03–1·51) on day 28. Negative interaction––ie, towards an R ratio of 1—was identified when multiple NPIs were introduced or lifted simultaneously (appendix p 42).

[Jimbuna]

Coronavirus restrictions should be the same across all four UK nations this Christmas, say the Lib Dems and Alliance Party of Northern Ireland.

Lib Dem leader Ed Davey says the UK government should take action now "so Christmas isn't cancelled"

Environment Secretary George Eustice says the government wants Christmas to be "as close to normal as possible" but it's "too early to say" what rules will be in place then.

Young and ethnic minority workers were more likely to be made unemployed post-furlough, according to new report.

Police in Scotland are breaking up hundreds of house parties every week despite the ongoing ban on home visits.

The UK government announced 22,885 confirmed cases on Tuesday, and a further 367 deaths, bringing the total death toll to 45,365

Across the globe there have been more than 44 million coronavirus cases and more than 1.1 million deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

[Jimbuna]

In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel is set to decide with state leaders whether to shut bars, leisure centres and hotels next month - in a potential move being dubbed as "lockdown light".

A draft proposal of the measures seen by German media suggests a broad but limited lockdown from 4 November, which would allow schools to remain open but require cinemas, theatres, bars and leisure centres to shut.

In France, President Emmanuel Macron is to give further details later today of a planned four-week lockdown, with reports suggesting schools will stay open and online study will be encouraged for older children and universities.

Ireland last week moved to its highest level of coronavirus restrictions - which include a ban on social gatherings indoors or in gardens - with the aim of reopening before Christmas.

Italy shut cinemas, restaurants, bars and gyms this week, with protests following in some cities.

In the Czech Republic, night curfews start at 21:00 - except for working, walking the dog or urgent medical needs.

In Russia, people have to wear masks in crowded public places and regional authorities are being advised to impose a 23:00 curfew on catering and entertainment.

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

It seems that Germany is set for a second lock-down, described as a "wave braker" to get things a bit under control again before Christmas season, so that family can meet at Christmas for sure. From next Monday on, this lockdown light will come into effect, banning several branches of business and public life from operating. Shops will remain open. Schools shall stay open as long as possible (obviously nobody in the chancellor's round table meeting found it necessary to take note of the recent study of Imperial College London). Only member of the same and one other household are allowed to meet in public or in private space. A state of national health emergency should be declared, so that restrictions and rules are much more difficult to fight against at courts. The measurements are pre-determined to run for a limited, not an unlimited time of 4 weeks, with a preliminary new assessment being made after two weeks.

Its embarassing - toilet paper is out since days again.


Meanwhile, researchers and scientists dampemd expectations for a first generation vaccine, warning of not having overly exaggerated hopes for its efficiency and lasting effect. It will not do the great miracle effect.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I got that from a German English newspaper. I guess they identify themselves as center-right so they can dismiss others ideas and accuse you of being far right.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I got that from a German English newspaper. I guess they identify themselves as center-right so they can dismiss others ideas and accuse you of being far right.

Maybe they were that in prehistoric times, but Merkel has overtaken the political left on the left lane at times, to steal their signature projects that way and occupy them herself. There is a reason why she is in her 16th year: the reason is she suffocates and erodes every opposition. The liberals/libertarians of the FDP are not libertarian anymore these days. The conservative Christians of CDU and CSU are neither conservative nor explicitly Christian anymore. The SPD is nothing anymore, and Die Linke is still the SED. With the exeception of the more and more Nazi-housing and hijacked-by-Nazis AfD, all parties in the Bundestag are state-socialists and planned-economy-theoresticists these days, and mind you, in the the end the Nazis were and are social and economical socialists and central-state fans as well. All parties with the exception of the AfD are pretty much the same by now, pro EU, pro Euro, pro-debt union, pro centralist state, pro planned economy, pro monmey destruction, they only differ in the ammount of shamelessness or shamefulness with which they openly admit or avoid to admit to be socialist and left: but socialist and left they all are. Its fair to say that all mentioned parties are rather wings of just one and the same party. The self-understanding of politicians is absolutely feudal and aristocratic.

I see it the same in the US, btw., and in most other European countries. I do not differ between Democrats and Republicans in the US that much, to me they are just two different wings of one and the same meta-party. If some people still say the cold war was lost by the socialist block, I can just bitterly smile. Socialism has never had such a rally as in the present. All the crows flock together to protect their selfish career and system interests. It seems to be the same like this, everywhere. Political REAL choice? Very, very very rarely to be seen and being real, mostly it is just fake show and false appearance.