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07-04-19, 10:46 PM | #16 |
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Think the mother ship involved is the KC64 Moscow a modified delta IV carrying the losharik mini submarine
It was losharik that was involved in the incident I’m getting info from different sources all pointing to the mother ship being KC64
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07-04-19, 11:21 PM | #17 |
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So it wasn't the mother ship, but the mini sub losharik ...
Which leaves the program still intact due to it was experimental underwater work. Hush hush top secret
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07-05-19, 01:51 AM | #18 | |
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The Delta does not dive that deep, but the small parasite sub maybe can, if you look at the inner titanium ball construction. The Russians have already built extreme deep-diving tactical subs of much bigger sizes. No doubt this one is a very special and expensive sub. Question is if it ever dives again, when a battery fire has weakened the titanium hull of one or several ball compartments. Then add acid fumes. This smaller sub can manipulate or cut undersea cables along with planting devices for listening, in this arctic mission it has been used to "prove" Russia's claims on certain resource-rich areas under water in the arctic; in this case to look for geological relations* of certain areas to the russian continental shelf. "Scientific Research", lmao. (*What geological relations have to do with arbitrarily drawn political borders, or what this "proves" regarding territorial claims? Must be a special russian idea or secret. I call BS. Like planting a flag underwater. Claiming colonies in the 21st century? Really?) Regarding the lengthened Oscar class, seems it is designed to place bigger devices on the sea floor, like e.g. nuclear reactors to provide the power for transatlantioc cable listening stations, the russian equivalent of SOSUS, and something like that.
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07-05-19, 06:32 AM | #19 |
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The incident was on AS-31 "Losharik" speical purpose deep diving sub. That sub uses nuclear power plant. The fire is reported to have been electric, the crew pushed out the civilian industrial specialist out of the compartment and proceded to fight the power till they managed to take it out. However it appears that they either perished in the fire or shortly afterwards, most likely from smoke/gasses etc.
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07-05-19, 07:19 AM | #20 | |
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'There's An Incident Involving A Russian Submarine Every Five Or Six Years'
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07-05-19, 09:17 AM | #21 |
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That's no surprise taking into account 20+ years of disregard towards the Navy. With such luggage it's hard to say how much time would be needed to make our submariners's service more safe. Howerver "safe" and "submarine" are two words that don't come together. Nature of that vessels means that anything can happen anytime.
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07-05-19, 09:40 AM | #22 |
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The picture is getting clearer ... the mother submarine might not even have been involved due to the close proximity of the accident with the mini-sub operating on her own doing her thing in local waters with a civilian scientist on board the sub was still in it's shake down form.
A sub that small with it's own nuclear power plant? Wow! I wonder if the USN even has anything like this one in mind?
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07-05-19, 07:47 PM | #23 | |
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With arctic sea lanes opening up the race is on for coastal nations to gain access too, exploit and defend this new resource rich enviroment. UNCLOS, I think, has certain provisions which allow coastal states to measure the seabed/continental shelf and if things add up. Then according to those provisions, it would allow Russia to establish claims which extend beyond the usual 200 mile EEZ. (like I said: "I think")
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07-06-19, 03:17 AM | #24 |
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Oscar boat is Belgorod newly released, Spec Ops boat, supposedly equipped with Kanyon torpedoes. Losharik, however, is assigned to BS-136 Orenburg and BS-64 Podmovskoye. Reports claims that mothership involved was BS-136 Orenburg. The truth will never see the light of day.
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07-06-19, 12:08 PM | #25 | |
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The scheme of “Losharik” in the context. Displacement: 1,000 tons. Crew: 25 persons. Length: 75 meters
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07-10-19, 07:21 AM | #26 |
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So a top Russian naval officer said that the dead sailors (fighting the fire or whatever) saved the submarine fire from being a 'planetary catastrophe' ?
https://www.businessinsider.de/dead-...19-7?r=US&IR=T Makes one think.. what did or does it carry, is the reactor some new design that brings about something being even more harmful than what we already tinker with? How to handle people and nations that bring the world to the brink of a catastrophe 'just so'?
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07-10-19, 08:22 AM | #27 |
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It is a hyperbolae to glorify their damage con efforts.
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07-10-19, 08:45 AM | #28 |
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I agree with ikalugin - seems like a figure of speech to honour the fallen comrades.
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07-11-19, 12:21 AM | #30 | |
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