US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Skybird]

In lack of a Europe thread, I put it here.

https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...hierry-breton/

One of Europe's most senior politicians recounted how former U.S. President Donald Trump privately warned that America would not come to the EU's aid if it was attacked militarily.

"You need to understand that if Europe is under attack we will never come to help you and to support you," Trump told European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in 2020, according to French European Commissioner Thierry Breton, who was also present at a meeting at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

"By the way, NATO is dead, and we will leave, we will quit NATO," Trump also said, according to Breton. "And he added, ‘and by the way, you owe me $400 billion, because you didn’t pay, you Germans, what you had to pay for defense,'" Breton said about the tense meeting, where the EU's then-trade chief Phil Hogan was also present.

Breton told the anecdote at an event in the European Parliament in Brussels on Tuesday, just days before the Republican Party holds its January 15 caucus in Iowa, the opening contest in Trump's bid to win the Republican nomination for a run at returning to the White House. Party members will cast their votes for candidates including Trump, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, who both trail way behind the ex-president in opinion polls.

[Jimbuna]

^ I can well believe that to be true but what must be more worrying in the US must surely be the havoc he is preparing in revenge tactics to all who have opposed him.

Personally, I'd like to see Bush and him step down and allow a fresh set of candidates take over the running.

[August]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ I can well believe that to be true but what must be more worrying in the US must surely be the havoc he is preparing in revenge tactics to all who have opposed him.

By revenge tactics do you mean heaping civil and criminal charges against them like his opponents did to him, the Jan 6th protesters and many of his advisors and members of his cabinet? That is not very likely to happen but I wouldn't feel any sympathy for them if he did.

[mapuc]

So Nikki Haley is not an American citizens according to Trump, despite she was born in South Carolina-Her parents did not have an American citizenship then.

The law is clear on this-Everyone born in USA is an American citizen.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

By revenge tactics do you mean heaping civil and criminal charges against them like his opponents did to him, the Jan 6th protesters and many of his advisors and members of his cabinet? That is not very likely to happen but I wouldn't feel any sympathy for them if he did.

Apparently, according to you, all those people must be innocent, even the ones that have pled guilty. I find it difficult to understand how someone like you, who swore an oath to the Constitution, can so easily be turned against it.


Trump signed this in 2016 and 2020. I wonder why he won't now?

[Buddahaid]

Georgia RICO hearing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/OAus1sg..._rPPJLXLfMIq94

[Buddahaid]

Trump ordered to pay $362,000.00 in attorney fees to The NY Times for a frivolous lawsuit that was dismissed.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...p-fee-decision

[em2nought]

The Indian guy(Vichyssoise?) sounded really good on Gutfeld! last night. If he walks the walk that he talks I could see voting for him. I'm starting to feel that in no way is the totally corrupt establishment, totally corrupt democrat party, and totally corrupt deep state ever going to let Trump in again. I wouldn't be surprised if a nuke went errant and landed on Mar-a-lago if it absolutely "had" to.

Oops, forgot to mention the totally corrupt mainstream media as well

[Jimbuna]

[Buddahaid]

Here's a letter from Hunter Biden’s legal team to James Comer informing Comer and the GOP why the subpoenas he served were legally defective on their face.

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-cont...ry-12-2024.pdf

And the response.
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/ev...ena-for-hb.pdf

[Buddahaid]

The Hunter Biden contempt hearing.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...pt-of-congress

No matter what the Republicans say, Hunter has agreed to testify under oath in public hearings and the Twitter Party insists on secret hearings. I don't care how righteous the twitter party want to whine, they remain afraid of public hearings.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Thinking the same, I'll have to look up that episode of Gutfeld

He was actually on two episodes in a row. Maybe the two best episodes of Gutfeld! ever.

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

According to the Danish article this has created a stir in the political USA

Bosses in the Biden admin are pressed over young staffers’ anonymous letters

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...ffers-00134688

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Apparently, according to you, all those people must be innocent, even the ones that have pled guilty. I find it difficult to understand how someone like you, who swore an oath to the Constitution, can so easily be turned against it.

I haven't turned against the Constitution nor did the Jan 6th folks who got railroaded by the government, even the ones who the government bullied into pleading guilty to trespassing and a bunch of other charges that had nothing to do with the democrats fake insurrection pravda.