Israel deploys nuclear weapons on submarines

[Reece]

[QUOTE=Catfish;1893638
(Remember Flame came with a Windows update, and we all probably have it )[/QUOTE]
IIRC Flame is around 45gb!

[Catfish]

No, around 20 Mb as far as i heard. Big enough though, and much larger than Stux. As POTUS was reported to have said recently, it was developed in an Israelian-US venture, and its launch timed for beginning of may, 2012.

Also, because it was spread via an MS update, i do not quite believe Mickeysoft did not know anything about that - after all they are a US company and 'visited' regularly, by the US major secret services. Something every non-US company should consider when it uses MS programs, and cloud computing ..


Is the sending of such a thing not an act of war ?
So Iran could now legally 're'-declare war itself, to the US ?
I think they all (Iran AND US) are frantically searching for a juristically clean 'explanation'.

[Dan D]

„Cold war“ between Israel and the Iranian regime:
If those subs can be armed with nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, it would give Israel second strike capability. In other words: any nation that attacks Israel with a nuclear weapon will live long enough to regret it, which is not for very long.

Could be a bluff, though, that Israel is capable to arm its subs with nuclear missiles.

Such headlines could mean that Israel has accepted the idea that Iran sooner or later will be a nuclear power and that an Israeli plan to attack Iranian power plants to delay an Iranian nuclear program, if such a plan ever existed, is off the table.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Is the sending of such a thing not an act of war ?
So Iran could now legally 're'-declare war itself, to the US ?
I think they all (Iran AND US) are frantically searching for a juristically clean 'explanation'.

It's an act of war like the financing of international terrorism, messing in other nations by own militias and military trainers or flying airplanes into a foreign nations hightowers.

Just that as fas as we know Stuxnet did not kill crowds of civilians so far.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

It's an act of war like the financing of international terrorism, messing in other nations by own militias and military trainers or flying airplanes into a foreign nations hightowers.

I am glad we finally know who financed 9/11, so why did the US invade Afghanistan then, and not Iran ?

Or, since we are at it, not Saudi-Arabia, or Germany ?
It was financed and watched with sympathy, by Saudi-Arabia, and the terrorist cell met and worked in Germany. The main assassins are meanwhile known to have been employed by the US military in the US, some years before. Maybe they should have spied on and invaded themselves ?
There are too much things not fitting together in those official statements - not that they have not changed themselves, in the last months.


Regarding the latest known virus:

The Flame update was legitimated by the "Microsoft Enforced Licensing Registration Authority CA", a Sub-CA of Microsofts Root Authority.
Flame spread those updates over a virtual server named MSHOME-F3BE293C. All certificates used were valid, MS has admitted that.
"The Gadget-MITM module only became active in eastern timezones like GMT +2 and higher.
The Flame botnet infrastructure used 15 command servers, being in charge for 50 victims each [...] " or so Kaspersky said.
A few hours after detection, the botnet went offline.

The servers, using wrong identities, were placed in Germany, The Netherlands, Great Britain, Suisse, Hong Kong and Turkey.
Most victims used a 32-bit Windows 7, followed by XP with 45 percent.
Flame does not run under a 64-bit Win 7 or so it seems.

Some of the domains could be relocated to a "sinkhole" though, so the infected PCs transferred their data to Kaspersky labs; it seems those data consist of PDF and Office documents, but also Auto-Cad and other technical software. The redirected data do now reside at Kaspersky labs, in .. Russia.

Greetings,
Catfish

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I am glad we finally know who financed 9/11, so why did the US invade Afghanistan then, and not Iran ?

Or, since we are at it, not Saudi-Arabia, or Germany ?
It was financed and watched with sympathy, by Saudi-Arabia, and the terrorist cell met and worked in Germany. The main assassins are meanwhile known to have been employed by the US military in the US, some years before. Maybe they should have spied on and invaded themselves ?
There are too much things not fitting together in those official statements - not that they have not changed themselves, in the last months.

Like the Umma is not limited to one nation, Islamic terror is not organised along national borders. Saudi Arabia and Iran are the main generals, financers and planners, yes, with strong assistance from groups based in Pakistan, Jemen, Marocco, etc., but also with many spontaneously forming amatewur cells forming up here and there withiout ever having formal contact with any terror "organisation". This "network", which is not formally organised but is like a flock of separate dots on the same carpet, is the "entity" that we are at war with. It is not our freedom to decide whether we are at war with it or not, for it has decided that it wants to be at war with us, and acts like that since many years - war has found us whether we want it or not. Our decision is only about whether we want to fight back and defend ourselves, or not.

I say it since a long time, don't I: we are not at war with terror, we are at war with Islam. Better said: since over a 1000 years, Islam is at war with the nun-Islamic world. And it is no crusade of ours, but a fight of self-defence. Moderate Islam is not mainstream Islam. Mainstream Islam trrughout the Islamic world is - the fundamentalist Islam, the orthodox views, the Shariah as a basis for states. In principal, there is no fundamentalist Islam as if there could be other true Islams beside it, only Islam which by its very essence is fundamentalistic. Erdoghan I. has that confirmed right to our faces in a very furious speech, but more: I think like this not because Erdoghan says so, but because it is the logical conclusion when having read the Quran and some more of their scripture, and when considering polls and statistics showing that the silent toleration of what we call fundamentalist Islam is defende by roughly 70% of Muslims in all Muslim countries. This is what makes islam essential nature - fundamentalism - the mainstream Islam there is. Islam is a queer copy of Judaism, and Judaism originally is fundamentalist and sick that it stinks to heaven. Most Jews nowadays have moved away from the ultra-.hardcore basis of Judaism. The Christian religion also is a copy of Judaism, and it formed sectarian divides when people wished to get beyond the ultra-fundamentalist basis that you see in the OT and NT alike. Most of these main chruches are not really based on the fundamentalist fundament of the OT anymore, thank God. , althoguh many wish to set clocks backwards by a couple of centuries. Anyhow - in Islam there has not been equzivalents to these major shifts and rifts and distortions you see in crhistzian religion. There hjas not been a pendant to the rennaissance, the enlgithenment, the cultural blossoming in diversity and creativity and sciences. They still are where Judaism has been many many centuries before, and wehre Chriostains have been many many centuries before. They still need to go beyond the fundamentalist nature of Islam. Which means that Islam no longer is really Islam.

In the end, we need to get beyond religions like this, and need to come to a finish with them. Else they finish us.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Catfish

<snip>Some of the domains could be relocated to a "sinkhole" though, so the infected PCs transferred their data to Kaspersky labs; it seems those data consist of PDF and Office documents, but also Auto-Cad and other technical software. The redirected data do now reside at Kaspersky labs, in .. Russia.

Greetings,
Catfish

Kaspersky Labs may have had a lot 'visitors' from FSB and SVR lately.

[Skybird]

P.S. addendum for Catfish (and others understanding German language):

http://www.achgut.com/dadgdx/index.p...den_apostaten/

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Catfish

The older boats delivered had already 65 cm tubes, just with a 533 mm "inlet", which can be easily removed to accommodate bigger fishes. Maybe they just spared the Israelis the work to remove that this time.

The Popeye Turbo is 533mm in diameter so it can be fired from the standard torpedo tubes as could the Tomahawk which is what the Israelis originality wanted. IMO the 655mm tubes are more likely for deploying SDVs.

[Catfish]

The Dolphin has an own wet-and-dry compartment but, as you said, swimmer delivery vehicles can be launched form the 650 mm tubes.

But the nuclear-capable version of the medium-range "Popeye Turbo" cruise missile design has been tested for deployability from the 650mm torpedo tubes in the Dolphin submarines.

It has four of the latter, and six 533 mm tubes - some firepower for sure.