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Gerald · 08-23-20, 11:40 PM

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Portland police said in a statement on Sunday they arrested 14 people overnight and that crowd control munitions were used to disperse protesters.

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/...la-idOVCSH6C8B

Police said they declared a riot just before midnight on Saturday after a group of about 250 people, many of them wearing black and carrying shields, helmets and gas masks, tried to march on a government building that has often been the scene of violence during nearly three months of nightly protests.

Jimbuna · 08-24-20, 04:39 AM

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Jimbuna · 08-24-20, 04:53 AM

Kenosha shooting: Protests erupt after US police shoot black man

Protests have erupted in the US state of Wisconsin after police shot a black man several times while responding to what they said was a domestic incident.

The man, identified as Jacob Blake, is in a serious condition in hospital.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53886070

Catfish · 08-24-20, 04:48 PM

Video shows Blake being grabbed by his shirt from behind, then the cop shooting Blake in the back at least 7 times.
"Justified"? impossible to imagine any way that his shooting was justified.

"Anyone following the news for the past six months, and the past six years, has seen a numbing succession of these stories: An unarmed black person, usually a man or boy, is shot by police. There’s a good chance he has his back turned when multiple shots are fired. The incident is caught on video. There are demonstrations demanding reforms. Then some days or weeks later, in another city, the whole thing plays out again."

And they call demonstrations against such police action "anarchy"? This is clear racism. Time to wake up for all, what the hell is wrong over there?

mapuc · 08-24-20, 05:32 PM

I see it as a domestic problem and it shall be solved
by the Americans them self.

Markus

em2nought · 08-24-20, 05:55 PM

This is some dumb @ss B.S. we've got going here because the democrats have to get their way.

How about don't ignore what the Police are telling you to do, and then reach into your vehicle for "something".

I know better than to try reaching for something in my vehicle during a traffic stop, it wouldn't matter what color my skin is.

Buddahaid · 08-24-20, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

.....How about don't ignore what the Police are telling you to do, and then reach into your vehicle for "something".

I know better than to try reaching for something in my vehicle during a traffic stop, it wouldn't matter what color my skin is.

That is the elephant in the room about this shooting.

Jimbuna · 08-25-20, 06:06 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53897641

The troubles have gone on for a second night so this doesn't look like it is going to die down any time soon.

Is seven shots not a little too excessive?

Onkel Neal · 08-25-20, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Video shows Blake being grabbed by his shirt from behind, then the cop shooting Blake in the back at least 7 times.
"Justified"? impossible to imagine any way that his shooting was justified.

"Anyone following the news for the past six months, and the past six years, has seen a numbing succession of these stories: An unarmed black person, usually a man or boy, is shot by police. There’s a good chance he has his back turned when multiple shots are fired. The incident is caught on video. There are demonstrations demanding reforms. Then some days or weeks later, in another city, the whole thing plays out again."

And they call demonstrations against such police action "anarchy"? This is clear racism. Time to wake up for all, what the hell is wrong over there?

Clearly you don't understand how this works. When the police are called to a domestic disturbance and they cannot get the suspect to cooperate, when the suspect ignores their orders, and lunges into his car like this idiot did, the officers' degree of risk goes off the scale. He has every right to shoot the guy. What if he just watched and the guy pulled a pistol out from his front seat and started shooting the officer? Then the officer can respond?

Do you need me to post some examples of times when a cop hesitated and then was shot?

Yeah, time for some more peaceful protests, board up the Apple store and sneaker shops.

Catfish · 08-25-20, 02:07 PM

Blake may have been a thug or not, from a certain point on in the past i do not believe any US media anymore when it comes to police shootings, this is true for all sides involved.
So maybe Blake tried to evade, we do not know what he said, maybe he was ordered to get his papers out of the car, or maybe something completely different and he had an MG attached to his driver's seat, along with his three children in the car. Still possible of course.

On the other side three policemen, three guns, three tasers, three cans pepper spray, trained to tackle fleeing criminals from behind. Then grabbing a T-shirt instead of kicking his legs aside, securing him on the ground and tie his hands. Instead seven (or more) shots from behind, in self defence?
He still lives as far as i read.

edit:
What I read in different reports, which may all be wrong, is that Blake went out of the car to tell his son on the lawn to go into the car to the other kids, and then went to two women who were argueing and fighting. He was reportedly attempting to calm them down, according to multiple witnesses who spoke to local reporters. Blake was not part of the women's argument that precipitated the call to the police.

Mr. White is the one who saw the scene filmed the last seconds:

"After stepping away and coming back", White said "the scene drastically changed". Police were wrestling with Blake.

Then "One of them [police] had him [Blake] in a headlock and was punching him in his ribs, the other had him in a headlock on the other side of him and was pulling his arm."

"After they punched him in his rib, the female officer Tased him and Jacob kind of leaned on the car and they proceeded to wrestle him toward the back of the car and he went to the other side of the car."

This is when White begins to record the video.

Buddahaid · 08-25-20, 02:31 PM

Oh please, I don't believe for a minute the police were looking for an excuse to shoot him by telling him to get his papers. They aren't Gestapo and they aren't the Argentinian police. You can see from the phone video he's not cooperating and isn't "not doin nuttin", he's not cooperating and escalating the situation and for all we know made a grab for the cops weapons when he lunged for the car door.

Taze him, kick his feet out from under him as he's walking away? Do you think that would have been perceived as anything other than police brutality? I'm sorry he's been shot and likely paralyzed, but I hold him largely responsible for that by his own behavior.

Catfish · 08-25-20, 02:50 PM

^ True, something does not add up in those contradictory reports.
The papers thing is just an invention or theory i do not believe in.

If you look at him as a thug trying to get away ...
or if you look at him as someone who was trying to calm down the women and then get back to his kids..
No idea, i better stop speculating.

August · 08-25-20, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ True, something does not add up in those contradictory reports.
The papers thing is just an invention or theory i do not believe in.

If you look at him as a thug trying to get away ...
or if you look at him as someone who was trying to calm down the women and then get back to his kids..
No idea, i better stop speculating.

When cops have their guns drawn and pointing at you and they are yelling at you to stop then you had better stop don't you think?

Onkel Neal · 08-25-20, 05:03 PM

Yep, and every day hundreds of black men make the decision to comply with the officer, to stay calm, and don't get shot. It's the really stupid people who act like this and draw the short stick.

Just look at this spectator video
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status...66797060771842

And make sure you turn the volume ALL the way up for the full effect.
My god, can you imagine having to deal with this mob? Screeching and screaming, their small children wandering in and around the scene. How would you describe this behavior?

This will happen again, as long as people violate other people, break the law, steal and assault others, and fight with the cops.

Again, our country's soft-headed justice system is the underlying cause for this, this guy should have been in prison instead of on the street at all.

Mr Quatro · 08-25-20, 07:16 PM

What happens if a black man shoots a little white boy riding his bike in his yard point blank on purpose?

Oh wait a minute that was last month old news, uh?

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,146 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Kenosha shooting: Protests erupt after US police shoot black man Protests have erupted in the US state of Wisconsin after police shot a black man several times while responding to what they said was a domestic incident. The man, identified as Jacob Blake, is in a serious condition in hospital. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53886070 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Video shows Blake being grabbed by his shirt from behind, then the cop shooting Blake in the back at least 7 times. "Justified"? impossible to imagine any way that his shooting was justified. "Anyone following the news for the past six months, and the past six years, has seen a numbing succession of these stories: An unarmed black person, usually a man or boy, is shot by police. There’s a good chance he has his back turned when multiple shots are fired. The incident is caught on video. There are demonstrations demanding reforms. Then some days or weeks later, in another city, the whole thing plays out again." And they call demonstrations against such police action "anarchy"? This is clear racism. Time to wake up for all, what the hell is wrong over there? Last edited by Catfish; 08-24-20 at 05:02 PM.

08-24-20, 05:55 PM	#516
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,265 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is some dumb @ss B.S. we've got going here because the democrats have to get their way. How about don't ignore what the Police are telling you to do, and then reach into your vehicle for "something". I know better than to try reaching for something in my vehicle during a traffic stop, it wouldn't matter what color my skin is. __________________ Looks like we need a Lemon Law for Presidents now! DNC sold us a dud, and they knew it.

08-25-20, 06:06 AM	#518
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,146 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53897641 The troubles have gone on for a second night so this doesn't look like it is going to die down any time soon. Is seven shots not a little too excessive? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

08-24-20, 05:32 PM	#515
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,877 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I see it as a domestic problem and it shall be solved by the Americans them self. Markus

08-25-20, 02:07 PM	#520
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Blake may have been a thug or not, from a certain point on in the past i do not believe any US media anymore when it comes to police shootings, this is true for all sides involved. So maybe Blake tried to evade, we do not know what he said, maybe he was ordered to get his papers out of the car, or maybe something completely different and he had an MG attached to his driver's seat, along with his three children in the car. Still possible of course. On the other side three policemen, three guns, three tasers, three cans pepper spray, trained to tackle fleeing criminals from behind. Then grabbing a T-shirt instead of kicking his legs aside, securing him on the ground and tie his hands. Instead seven (or more) shots from behind, in self defence? He still lives as far as i read. edit: What I read in different reports, which may all be wrong, is that Blake went out of the car to tell his son on the lawn to go into the car to the other kids, and then went to two women who were argueing and fighting. He was reportedly attempting to calm them down, according to multiple witnesses who spoke to local reporters. Blake was not part of the women's argument that precipitated the call to the police. Mr. White is the one who saw the scene filmed the last seconds: "After stepping away and coming back", White said "the scene drastically changed". Police were wrestling with Blake. Then "One of them [police] had him [Blake] in a headlock and was punching him in his ribs, the other had him in a headlock on the other side of him and was pulling his arm." "After they punched him in his rib, the female officer Tased him and Jacob kind of leaned on the car and they proceeded to wrestle him toward the back of the car and he went to the other side of the car." This is when White begins to record the video. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 08-25-20 at 02:42 PM.*

08-25-20, 02:31 PM	#521
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,557 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Oh please, I don't believe for a minute the police were looking for an excuse to shoot him by telling him to get his papers. They aren't Gestapo and they aren't the Argentinian police. You can see from the phone video he's not cooperating and isn't "not doin nuttin", he's not cooperating and escalating the situation and for all we know made a grab for the cops weapons when he lunged for the car door. Taze him, kick his feet out from under him as he's walking away? Do you think that would have been perceived as anything other than police brutality? I'm sorry he's been shot and likely paralyzed, but I hold him largely responsible for that by his own behavior. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

08-25-20, 02:50 PM	#522
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ True, something does not add up in those contradictory reports. The papers thing is just an invention or theory i do not believe in. If you look at him as a thug trying to get away ... or if you look at him as someone who was trying to calm down the women and then get back to his kids.. No idea, i better stop speculating. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

08-25-20, 05:03 PM	#524
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Yep, and every day hundreds of black men make the decision to comply with the officer, to stay calm, and don't get shot. It's the really stupid people who act like this and draw the short stick. Just look at this spectator video https://twitter.com/stillgray/status...66797060771842 And make sure you turn the volume ALL the way up for the full effect. My god, can you imagine having to deal with this mob? Screeching and screaming, their small children wandering in and around the scene. How would you describe this behavior? This will happen again, as long as people violate other people, break the law, steal and assault others, and fight with the cops. Again, our country's soft-headed justice system is the underlying cause for this, this guy should have been in prison instead of on the street at all.

08-25-20, 07:16 PM	#525
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