[REL] Operation Monsun - Page 160

lurker_hlb3 · 04-06-10, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexradu89

I'm sometimes during 1940, beginning of the year, using VIIC, and only type I torpedoes (the standard ones) and ALL of them blow up in the water, ar at least if they hit the ship it's a dud

I'm using full realism except for manual TDC... this is getting so annoying, im in the middle of the convoy and im already out of torps...im only using OM and OMEGU mods (no sound mods, no special keys, no nothing) just before the convoy, i fired 8 torps at a merchant and they were all duds, hitting the ship and nothing, i restarted from a save point about 3 times and always the same problem with that merchant

EDIT: fired around 7-8 torps at the convoy they all exploded in the water, I'm disabling the mods and reinstalling maybe that'll work

Fyi

40% chance of premature detonation if waves are 6 to 15 meters, and 90% if over 15 meters

alexradu89 · 04-06-10, 09:41 AM

well that explains it!

radioing Bdu to come tow me to base! this is what you get for playing the dark and cold atlantic

10x lurker

ShadowWolf Kell · 04-06-10, 02:59 PM

Magnetic is actually fairly reliable (compared to the Allies) early on in the war since they work almost flawlessly in calm weather/seas. I tend to use slow settings and fire under 3000 meters. Ideally 1500 or so, but that's not always possible.

Contacts initially have a really high dud rate, even under ideal conditions. You can extend your torpedo effectiveness, and thus supply by compensating with magnetics set just below the keel depth of your target. Contacts seem to work best by minimizing their depth to the bare minimum due to the curvature of many ship hulls.

Torpedos start to become much more reliable after Operation Weserübung (Norway), though contact still has some problematic dud issues until around 1943 iirc.

Dani · 04-06-10, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowWolf Kell

Torpedos start to become much more reliable after Operation Weserübung (Norway), though contact still has some problematic dud issues until around 1943 iirc.

Is this implemented in OM?
Will we have less duds in or after 1943?

Salvadoreno · 04-06-10, 05:01 PM

Umm.. So just to be clear. I installed OM without OMEGU. Now i dont know how OpMon works without OMEGU but im assuming OpMon keeps the old loading screen and intro when loading sh4? I also have no sound mod its all regular american voices etc.. Is this right?? OMEGU changes all the loading screens and environments and voices right?

I have all OpMon mods (OM 705, 720, patch 2 and 3) and only OMEGU v410 plot pkg installed...

lurker_hlb3 · 04-07-10, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvadoreno

Umm.. So just to be clear. I installed OM without OMEGU. Now i dont know how OpMon works without OMEGU but im assuming OpMon keeps the old loading screen and intro when loading sh4? I also have no sound mod its all regular american voices etc.. Is this right?? OMEGU changes all the loading screens and environments and voices right?.

Yes to all your questions

lurker_hlb3 · 04-07-10, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

How hard is it to convert a conning tower from SHIII? I ask because I always liked the VIIC/4 very much, and might have a go.

IT is alot more work than you think. By the way I did built a U-Flak Type VII awhile back but was not a 100% satisfied with the results.

Quote:

Is it correct to say that the VIIB/2, IX/2 and VIIC/4 are not available in OM?

The VIIB/2 is not present because it was "very rarely" used

The IX/2 is the Turmumbau II on the IXB

sckallst · 04-07-10, 11:29 AM

Just wanted to pass along a giant thanks to Lurker, and the rest of the folks who have contributed parts to the OM/OMEGU, incredible addition to SH4. I'd messed around just a tiny bit with earlier versions of OM, but my heart was always really with the USN in the Pacific. I knew that OM/OMEGU had been growing by leaps and bounds, but now that I've been fully immersed in playing an ATO for a few patrols of a campaign, I'm stunned by the entire virtual world you've created. To say that what you've accomplished doubles the play value of SH4 is, quite simply, a vast understatement, without even considering your other grand achievement in RSRD.

In my 'productive' hobby time (as opposed to my play time), I build modules for playing board wargames via the various online means available. Though I also often enjoy that work for itself, it is still work, with all attendant frustrations that somtimes pop up. The satisfaction of successfully completing a project is nice, but the best part to me is getting just a few 'thank you's", even anonomously, from folks who are deriving satisfaction from the work. As is charateristic of the Subsim community, those "thank you's" and appreciation for your work have been plentiful on these pages. Adding mine to the list is the very least that I can do.

Anybody reading this that hasn't yet taken the plunge into the ATO with SH4, and who has the slightest itch to do so, DO SO! Not only won't you be disappointed, you'll probably be hooked.

vonTorpitz · 04-07-10, 07:44 PM

JSGME says OMEGU's installed but i stiil get the old U-boat missions loading screens and and American voices.
Im getting a (not responding ) message in the title bar of JSGME while enableing but, after a while it shows up in the enabled list. Not really sure if its installed or not.

Oh and I only have OM and OMEGU installed.

cgjimeneza · 04-07-10, 08:14 PM

search for Spax Sh4 Uboat speech fix v8

that should have all your crew speaking german

vonTorpitz · 04-07-10, 09:33 PM

Is there any immediate way to know that OMEGU has installed correctly?

nicae9 · 04-07-10, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonTorpitz

Is there any immediate way to know that OMEGU has installed correctly?

yes, the video at start will be different and the whole loading page as well compare with the stock game

lurker_hlb3 · 04-07-10, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonTorpitz

Not really sure if its installed or not..

It is not install correctly

Read this "CAREFULLY"

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...38&postcount=1

nicae9 · 04-07-10, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

It is not install correctly

Read this "CAREFULLY"

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...38&postcount=1

Thank you very much, I had been looking for this for the past few days

And great jobs on your mods

Cheers,

G

vonTorpitz · 04-07-10, 10:43 PM

Ah hah! I have it now. Thanks. My problem was that I copied the main OMEGU v 3.00 folder into my MODS folder. I didnt realized that you have to open it up first and grab the actual OMEGU v3.00 folder (its in there with a bunch of other mods, ah hah!) and copy that into your MODS folder, then enable. Duh!
Hope this helps anyone else who might have done this.

Holy smokes man, what a mod! Thanks for this one. I'm about to have a freakin blast!

04-06-10, 05:01 PM	#2390
Salvadoreno Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 887 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Umm.. So just to be clear. I installed OM without OMEGU. Now i dont know how OpMon works without OMEGU but im assuming OpMon keeps the old loading screen and intro when loading sh4? I also have no sound mod its all regular american voices etc.. Is this right?? OMEGU changes all the loading screens and environments and voices right? I have all OpMon mods (OM 705, 720, patch 2 and 3) and only OMEGU v410 plot pkg installed... __________________

04-07-10, 07:44 PM	#2394
vonTorpitz Seaman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: an island in the Pacific Posts: 42 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	JSGME says OMEGU's installed but i stiil get the old U-boat missions loading screens and and American voices. Im getting a (not responding ) message in the title bar of JSGME while enableing but, after a while it shows up in the enabled list. Not really sure if its installed or not. Oh and I only have OM and OMEGU installed. __________________ God damn them all. I was told, we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns, shed no tears. Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier. The last of Barrett's privateers.

04-07-10, 08:14 PM	#2395
cgjimeneza Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 527 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	german audio crew search for Spax Sh4 Uboat speech fix v8 that should have all your crew speaking german __________________ Pacific Thunder Campaing VIII-Retired www.subsowespac.org "Left on their own, engineers can be dangerous"

04-07-10, 09:33 PM	#2396
vonTorpitz Seaman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: an island in the Pacific Posts: 42 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Perplexed Is there any immediate way to know that OMEGU has installed correctly? __________________ God damn them all. I was told, we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns, shed no tears. Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier. The last of Barrett's privateers.

04-07-10, 10:43 PM	#2400
vonTorpitz Seaman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: an island in the Pacific Posts: 42 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Ah hah! I have it now. Thanks. My problem was that I copied the main OMEGU v 3.00 folder into my MODS folder. I didnt realized that you have to open it up first and grab the actual OMEGU v3.00 folder (its in there with a bunch of other mods, ah hah!) and copy that into your MODS folder, then enable. Duh! Hope this helps anyone else who might have done this. Holy smokes man, what a mod! Thanks for this one. I'm about to have a freakin blast! __________________ God damn them all. I was told, we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns, shed no tears. Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier. The last of Barrett's privateers.

04-06-10, 09:41 AM	#2387
alexradu89 Lieutenant Join Date: May 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 259 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	well that explains it! radioing Bdu to come tow me to base! this is what you get for playing the dark and cold atlantic 10x lurker

04-06-10, 02:59 PM	#2388
ShadowWolf Kell Medic Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 163 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Magnetic is actually fairly reliable (compared to the Allies) early on in the war since they work almost flawlessly in calm weather/seas. I tend to use slow settings and fire under 3000 meters. Ideally 1500 or so, but that's not always possible. Contacts initially have a really high dud rate, even under ideal conditions. You can extend your torpedo effectiveness, and thus supply by compensating with magnetics set just below the keel depth of your target. Contacts seem to work best by minimizing their depth to the bare minimum due to the curvature of many ship hulls. Torpedos start to become much more reliable after Operation Weserübung (Norway), though contact still has some problematic dud issues until around 1943 iirc.

04-07-10, 11:29 AM	#2393
sckallst Bosun Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 64 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Just wanted to pass along a giant thanks to Lurker, and the rest of the folks who have contributed parts to the OM/OMEGU, incredible addition to SH4. I'd messed around just a tiny bit with earlier versions of OM, but my heart was always really with the USN in the Pacific. I knew that OM/OMEGU had been growing by leaps and bounds, but now that I've been fully immersed in playing an ATO for a few patrols of a campaign, I'm stunned by the entire virtual world you've created. To say that what you've accomplished doubles the play value of SH4 is, quite simply, a vast understatement, without even considering your other grand achievement in RSRD. In my 'productive' hobby time (as opposed to my play time), I build modules for playing board wargames via the various online means available. Though I also often enjoy that work for itself, it is still work, with all attendant frustrations that somtimes pop up. The satisfaction of successfully completing a project is nice, but the best part to me is getting just a few 'thank you's", even anonomously, from folks who are deriving satisfaction from the work. As is charateristic of the Subsim community, those "thank you's" and appreciation for your work have been plentiful on these pages. Adding mine to the list is the very least that I can do. Anybody reading this that hasn't yet taken the plunge into the ATO with SH4, and who has the slightest itch to do so, DO SO! Not only won't you be disappointed, you'll probably be hooked.