Wuhan virus 2020

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Skybird

you do not walk around with a still opened umbrella.

Sure you do! You just call it a parasole and your all in fashion!

[Rockstar]

So hospitalization rate for the vaccinated is 0.01% that’s 1 out of 10,914. Hospitalization rate for the unvaccinated is 0.89% or 1 out of 112.

But the COVID death rate is 3.4%? Seems the death rates are being inflated as many reported deaths are not caused by COVID. They simply died from something else but ‘with’ COVID.

Meanwhile heart disease on the rise. Thank you Dr. Fauci and mandate Nazis fear mongers.

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

This comment isn't about whether the vaccine protect from getting very sick when infected. But what is the agenda behind the development of these vaccine.

When the vaccine came-One shot and you were protected. Not so far after...a second jab is needed to give a good protection...well some month later we were told that a second jab wasn't enough a booster jab is needed.
Today I saw a clip from a news article where the leader of Pfizer saying that a fourth jab may be necessary.

Are they doing this on purpose making the vaccine in a way that we need many more shots so they can earn lots of money ?

Markus

Old saying in my country: "The money is in the treatment, not in the cure."

[Sean C]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Seems the death rates are being inflated as many reported deaths are not caused by COVID.

Nah, they wouldn't do that ... would they?

New Zealand man who died of gunshot wound to be recorded as COVID-19 death: Report

[Catfish]

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

[Skybird]

Claims that patients wigth but notof Covid are as old as the anti corona conspiracy league. In Germany we have just had anogher shockfront of claims saying 80 percent died with but not of Corona. But the number magic behind it only covers the time from July to August - when case numbefs were incredibly low and tbeweather helpex to keep them down. The German association of pneumological/lung doctors points out that if you look at all cases over the psst two years, the absolutely overwhelming majority of deaths were patients who did not die with covid but of age and other health conditions, but died of Covid. Over 90 percent.
Its the virus that kills.

[Skybird]

Claims that patients with but not of Covid are as old as the anti corona conspiracy league. In Germany we have just had another shockfront of claims saying 80 percent died with but not of Corona. But the number magic behind it only covers the time from July to August - when case numbers were incredibly low and the weather helped to keep them down. The German association of pneumological/lung doctors points out that if you look at all cases over the past two years, the absolutely overwhelming majority of deaths were patients who did not die with covid and of age and other health conditions, but died of Covid. Over 90 percent.
Its the virus that kills.

[Rockstar]

Umm you can claim conspiracy theory and fact check all you want. But Jimmy the pot head referenced actual media stories.

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59639973

Fighting coronavirus is something your immune system has to learn.

One option is to figure it out on the job when you encounter the virus for real. However, there is a risk of getting it wrong and ending up seriously ill.

Vaccines are more like a school - a safer environment to further your immune system's Covid education.

The first dose is the primary school education that nails the fundamentals.

Your second and third doses are comparable to sending your immune system to secondary school and then university to dramatically deepen its understanding. It's not just repeating primary school over and over.

"The immune system is left with a richer knowledge and understanding of the virus," said Prof Jonathan Ball, a virologist from the University of Nottingham.

He said for all the talk of the dastardly tricks of Omicron, a highly-trained immune system is "an incredibly difficult and hostile environment" for the virus and its variants.

[Skybird]

The Frankfurter Rundscau points out that:

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the Novavax vaccine is also often referred to as a "Totimpfstoff" (deactivated/killed vaccine). Thats not right. In fact, it is a protein-based vaccine candidate. At least that's what the US company Novavax writes on its website. The new Minister of Health, Karl Lauterbach, is blowing the same horn. The SPD politician recently wrote on Twitter: “Can you please stop calling the Novavax vaccine a killed vaccine? It's a recombinant protein vaccine. " He further rumbled: "Because so many unvaccinated people only want killed vaccine, for whatever reason, Novavax available soon will be referred to as such." In addition, unlike the vaccine from Novavax, the mRNA corona vaccines are "tried and tested billions of times".

The vaccine from Novavax is therefore not one of the mRNA vaccines, such as those from Biontech and Moderna, nor is it part of the group of vector vaccines (Astrazeneca, Johnson & Johnson). So what does that mean, "recombinant protein vaccine"? In the Novavax vaccine, the so-called spike protein from Sars-CoV-2 is used and reproduced en masse in insect cells. The result is a reaction from the human immune system. After the vaccination, this forms antibodies against the protein, so a corona infection can be warded off. In addition, a potentiator (a so-called adjuvant) is added to strengthen the immune response. This stimulates a large amount of neutralizing antibodies. Immediately after vaccination, the immune system can begin to produce antibodies against the spike protein of the coronavirus - an advantage of the protein-based vaccine.
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BTW, the new German health minister is a competent man for medical topics, being a doctor himself, but that is an understatement. This is his vita on his website:

https://www.karllauterbach.de/karl-lauterbach


In his party he is seen critically because he does not easily or always fall into the party's ideological line, and often rans a one-man show and plotted courses even against the official course set by the party. Many in the SPD reject him, therefore. His medical competence however is even respected in the opposition (AfD excluded, of course).

[Rockstar]

Not much of Jimmy the pothead talking. You think China is today’s equivalent of nazi Germany. This Neil Oliver fella exposes Austrians and other European like minded Nazis.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

MPs will vote later on a set of measures for England aimed at slowing the spread of the Omicron variant.

The BBC estimates about 70 Tory MPs will vote against so-called Covid passes for entry into places like nightclubs but Labour will back it.

In Scotland, new guidelines on social contact will be outlined this afternoon by Nicola Sturgeon but there could be exceptions around Christmas.

Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab meanwhile has said "people can feel reassured" about their festive plans.

The government has warned the real number of daily Omicron infections is 200,000 and that hospitalisations are set to "dramatically increase"

But the top vaccine adviser says it would not have made sense to have rolled out boosters to all adults before Omicron was identified.

More than half a million people booked booster jabs on Monday and long queues are forming again at some vaccination centres on Tuesday.