US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Dowly]

Michael Cohen's opening testimony:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/27/p...ead/index.html


Public hearing today at 10am EST. This ought to be interesting.

[Georg Lassen]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Michael Cohen's opening testimony:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/27/p...ead/index.html


Public hearing today at 10am EST. This ought to be interesting.

He claims Trump never intended or expected to win the primary or the general election, that is total bull ****.


I followed the campaign closely and he was out to win, maybe partly to get back at Obama, Clinton and the media or any other "wrong" motivation, but he was all in.

[Catfish]

Nothing happening here, move on.

[Dowly]

@Georg Lassen: Trump not wanting/expecting to win has been brought up before by others as well. Remember, it was Trump who claimed the elections were rigged; he was fully expecting to lose.

[Georg Lassen]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Nothing happening here, move on.

The man is clearly a hitman for the Clintons and the democratic party.


What ever faults Trump might have this just shows what type of people are in the other side pulling strings.

[Georg Lassen]

Originally Posted by Dowly

@Georg Lassen: Trump not wanting/expecting to win has been brought up before by others as well. Remember, it was Trump who claimed the elections were rigged; he was fully expecting to lose.

I personally watched him collect those votes in rural America and other places he did not have to tour, he was trying to win.


Dont believe the narrative you are fed but make you own observations.
Trump is no saint but there is something much more worrying in his opposition.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Georg Lassen

The man is clearly a hitman for the Clintons and the democratic party.

Originally Posted by Georg Lassen

Dont believe the narrative you are fed but make you own observations.

You should take your own advice.

[Georg Lassen]

Originally Posted by Dowly

You should take your own advice.

Who is benefitting from Cohens testimony?

It will be interesting to see where he lands, might not even do jail time if there is a Democrat in the White House.


If he is right Trump will be easily persuaded to leaving office by his testimony and surely he would not run for a second term?


Much of the time the accusations against Trump are not logical and are very diverse, all hallmark signs of propaganda.
Propaganda campaigns are not impromptu affairs, they are planned and coordinated.
That means someone is behind it.



I am sure many Republican politicians despise Trump but the most logical suspect would be the Clintons and the Democratic party using all their power across US society.

Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented. Propaganda is often associated with material prepared by governments, but activist groups, companies, religious organizations and the media can also produce propaganda.

In a 1929 literary debate with Edward Bernays, Everett Dean Martin argues that, "Propaganda is making puppets of us. We are moved by hidden strings which the propagandist manipulates."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

[Georg Lassen]

[Georg Lassen]

It really feels at times that US is one caning away from something serious.

[Mr Quatro]

Based on what I am watching right now on ABC special Michael Cohen's testimony before Congress ... what I see is the reverse of organized crime.

I guess you could in effect call this unorganized crime

He looks shady to me

[Dowly]

Republicans are acting like children, what an embarrassment.

Maybe they should try to catch Cohen in a lie now instead of trying to discredit him with crimes Cohen has already pleaded quilty to and taken responsibility for.

Like someone from the Dem side said, if prior crimes discredit a witness then most of Mafia sentences should be overturned since many of them were based on witness testimonies by people who did much worse crimes than Cohen.

[Georg Lassen]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Republicans are acting like children, what an embarrassment.

Maybe they should try to catch Cohen in a lie now instead of trying to discredit him with crimes Cohen has already pleaded quilty to and taken responsibility for.

Like someone from the Dem side said, if prior crimes discredit a witness then most of Mafia sentences should be overturned since many of them were based on witness testimonies by people who did much worse crimes than Cohen.

Cohen is looking for a reduced sentence or even pardon from a Democrat president.
The man behind him is lawyer Lanny Davis, a Clinton operative, who by coincidence, as they claim, is representing him.

The Clinton clan crimes are actually out in the open so the hypocrisy is hilarious.



What has Cohen produced in you opinion that is credible?


You dont agree that there is a propaganda campaign going on against Trump?
Or do you think there is one but it is justified as he represents pure evil?

[Dowly]

You talk a lot about propaganda, yet you parrot the 'Clinton crime clan' nonsense. Republicans had two years to look into it, they didn't. Why? Perhaps because there's nothing there, but they keep it up because their base swallows it.


Again, I'd advice you to take your advice:

Dont believe the narrative you are fed but make you own observations.

[STEED]

Dear American's

I live in the UK and have no interest with the latest bing bash bosh call it what you like. Please contact SKY News and the BBC News and tell them we Brits are not interested in non stop coverage of the latest goings on over there.

Thanks.

PS I have have tried and they ignored me. Maybe you guys will have more sway.