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Skybird · 05-09-21, 07:11 AM

The EU Commission will not extend the contract with the vaccine manufacturer Astrazeneca, which expires in June, Internal Market Commissioner Thierry Breton announced on Sunday. The European Union is currently in legal dispute with Astrazeneca due to delivery delays.

Moonlight · 05-09-21, 07:26 AM

Me thinks there are more countries doing this research than we realise, you'll not find out which countries are doing this research though (unless there's a leak) due to National Security concerns, (which literally means keep your bleeding nose out you plebs or you'll get it smashed in.

The "we know best" bollocks by your politicians was wearing thin with me a long time ago, I wonder how many people have been secretly imprisoned or assassinated to keep "World War XYZ" a secret by your baby kissing jerk off leaders just to keep secrets Secret.
You won't get any reporter asking questions like that though as they've all been pissing in the same pot for decades.

WORLD WAR FLU China ‘probed WEAPONISING coronaviruses five years before Covid outbreak & predicted WW3 fought with bio-weapons’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/148849...ovid-pandemic/

Skybird · 05-09-21, 08:35 AM

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...skutieren.html

Skybird · 05-09-21, 08:39 AM

France 24 yesterday:

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...h-pfizer-shots

No word on Macronman. The deal is signed, media today (again) report all over the place.

Catfish · 05-09-21, 11:07 AM

Positive, true or self-evident news do not find their way into the media you read, you should concentrate more on The Sun or Fox News.

Skybird · 05-09-21, 11:24 AM

Oh, the video was right, Die Welt indeed had a story (now behind paywall) two days ago saying that Macronman tried to stop the EU from flying.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...ng-der-EU.html

He probably wanted to secure for France tehcncial Biontech knowhow for producing mRNA vaccines, after they messed up their own vaccine development, and demanded concessions: a classical "diplomatic" blackmail. And who knows, maybe he got them. After all, France always has sought hegemony in the EU region and have Germany paying for it because France is economically too weak to fill its glorious past-oriented megalomania with financial muscles and economic bones by itself. To have the French pharmaceutical industry not playing in the league of of first ranked players when it comes to producing the vaccine really itches the French ego. Thats why he supported the devalidation of patents for Corona vaccines - so that French producers could benefit. Stealing knowhow and not calling it that, thats how I call it.

Germans are extremely vulnerable to get sacked by France again and again. The socialisation of national debts in the EU also is something that France and Macorn always wanted, and now get. Because the French finances are a smoking ruin and the top rated threat to the Euro - not Greece, not Italy: its about France. It has always been. Brussels speaks predominantely French, is extremely francophile oriented. As a people, I like the French. As a political actor and nation of the diplomatic stage, I do not trust them further than I trust Russia or China - means: NOT AT ALL. I do not share the popular clichées of French military cowardice, that is total nonsense, but I see political France as extremely underhanded, politically.

Jimbuna · 05-09-21, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Oh, the video was right, Die Welt indeed had a story (now behind paywall) two days ago saying that Macronman tried to stop the EU from flying.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...ng-der-EU.html

He probably wanted to secure for France tehcncial Biontech knowhow for producing mRNA vaccines, after they messed up their own vaccine development, and demanded concessions: a classical "diplomatic" blackmail. And who knows, maybe he got them. After all, France always has sought hegemony in the EU region and have Germany paying for it because France is economically too weak to fill its glorious past-oriented megalomania with financial muscles and economic bones by itself. To have the French pharmaceutical industry not playing in the league of of first ranked players when it comes to producing the vaccine really itches the French ego. Thats why he supported the devalidation of patents for Corona vaccines - so that French producers could benefit. Stealing knowhow and not calling it that, thats how I call it.

Germans are extremely vulnerable to get sacked by France again and again. The socialisation of national debts in the EU also is something that France and Macorn always wanted, and now get. Because the French finances are a smoking ruin and the top rated threat to the Euro - not Greece, not Italy: its about France. It has always been. Brussels speaks predominantely French, is extremely francophile oriented. As a people, I like the French. As a political actor and nation of the diplomatic stage, I do not trust them further than I trust Russia or China - means: NOT AT ALL. I do not share the popular clichées of French military cowardice, that is total nonsense, but I see political France as extremely underhanded, politically.

And to think...not everything from questionable (by some individual opinions) sources are always lies or made up.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=7140

Skybird · 05-09-21, 03:51 PM

As I said before, those videos, imo most likely form Russian sources, are quite clever in their propaganda, becasue the avoid obvious lies that easily could be pointed out, instead bas eof real true stories. Its not the content per se but the style in which they get presented and by which they raise the wanted emotions by which they acchieve their propagandsitic effect. The appeal not to the intellect (the intellect would fight in vain here because there is no obvious lie beign told), they appeal to sentiments - and reinforce them.

Catfish · 05-10-21, 02:05 AM

They grab a tiny piece of an event or quote, and build an "emotional conspiracy" on that.

Interesting however that the creators of said videos cannot be located or named, there is no impressum and no one to take responsibility, and no trusted source. It is not a private opinion piece or venture, they use a literal "false flag" (the Union Jack) to pretend accountability or some legal organisation. I wonder how and why Google allows that. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567?hl=en

I mean i could publish something about hate mails that Merkel received, and build an attempted murder case out of that, inciting violent reaction. This is yellow press on steroids, anonimously.

Those videos are relatively primitive, but:

Also this: YouTube as political influencer

Skybird · 05-10-21, 03:18 AM

Even more clever, Catfish, they do not even distort things or blow them up - they just endlessly repeat them. They are true, and often the context described is true as well. You cannot pinpoint a specific untruth in it. But the world revolves not just around this one detail. But they focus on it as if it does. By that they increase its apparent relevance, or extend its longevity. And so it sinks into people's minds.

Sometimes the repetition in just one 3 minute video is too much, and then it springs to the eye a bit. But else these videos are done by somebody who nows what he is doing, and with an economic use of his maybe limited ressources.

I assume it is a private pro-Russian circle maybe with sponsoring Russian state/intel support. But if the the Russian intel would be exclusively own the authorship here, I am very certain that we would not see these minor hickups in the craftsmanship of these videos (synthetized robot voice, too many repetitions, names pronounced wrong). They would be doing it without us being able to so easily spot the suspicious hints.

Or they want people to recongise the Russian origin. To keep the debate hot and spinning, and situations in countries therefore destabilising.

Jimbuna · 05-10-21, 08:01 AM

Jimbuna · 05-10-21, 01:24 PM

Jimbuna · 05-10-21, 01:29 PM

Boris Johnson has set out the next stage of lockdown easing for England
Pubs and restaurants can serve people inside from next Monday.

Galleries, theatres, cinemas and soft play centres can also reopen.

Hugging will be allowed but people should consider the vulnerabilities of their loved ones, he says.

People will be able to meet inside in groups of six, or two households.

Up to 30 people will be allowed to attend weddings, receptions, funerals and wakes.

The UK chief medical officers earlier lowered the Covid-19 alert level from four to three.

Zero coronavirus deaths were announced in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland on Monday.

Restrictions are also being eased across Europe, including in Ireland and Spain.

mapuc · 05-10-21, 01:30 PM

Understatement in number of death to this Corona virus.

From what I understand, by watching the news there has been an underestimation in reporting the number of death.

In an interview on CNN a known person, but which name is forgotten by me, said that the real number in US could be 900.000 death.

Is this been done on purpose if so WHY ?

Markus

Jimbuna · 05-10-21, 01:30 PM

05-09-21, 07:11 AM	#7141
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,501 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The EU Commission will not extend the contract with the vaccine manufacturer Astrazeneca, which expires in June, Internal Market Commissioner Thierry Breton announced on Sunday. The European Union is currently in legal dispute with Astrazeneca due to delivery delays. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-09-21, 07:26 AM	#7142
Moonlight Admiral Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,138 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Me thinks there are more countries doing this research than we realise, you'll not find out which countries are doing this research though (unless there's a leak) due to National Security concerns, (which literally means keep your bleeding nose out you plebs or you'll get it smashed in. The "we know best" bollocks by your politicians was wearing thin with me a long time ago, I wonder how many people have been secretly imprisoned or assassinated to keep "World War XYZ" a secret by your baby kissing jerk off leaders just to keep secrets Secret. You won't get any reporter asking questions like that though as they've all been pissing in the same pot for decades. WORLD WAR FLU China ‘probed WEAPONISING coronaviruses five years before Covid outbreak & predicted WW3 fought with bio-weapons’ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/148849...ovid-pandemic/ __________________

05-09-21, 08:35 AM	#7143
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,501 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...skutieren.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-09-21, 08:39 AM	#7144
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,501 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	France 24 yesterday: https://www.france24.com/en/europe/2...h-pfizer-shots No word on Macronman. The deal is signed, media today (again) report all over the place. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-09-21, 11:07 AM	#7145
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Positive, true or self-evident news do not find their way into the media you read, you should concentrate more on The Sun or Fox News. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

05-09-21, 11:24 AM	#7146
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,501 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Oh, the video was right, Die Welt indeed had a story (now behind paywall) two days ago saying that Macronman tried to stop the EU from flying. https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...ng-der-EU.html He probably wanted to secure for France tehcncial Biontech knowhow for producing mRNA vaccines, after they messed up their own vaccine development, and demanded concessions: a classical "diplomatic" blackmail. And who knows, maybe he got them. After all, France always has sought hegemony in the EU region and have Germany paying for it because France is economically too weak to fill its glorious past-oriented megalomania with financial muscles and economic bones by itself. To have the French pharmaceutical industry not playing in the league of of first ranked players when it comes to producing the vaccine really itches the French ego. Thats why he supported the devalidation of patents for Corona vaccines - so that French producers could benefit. Stealing knowhow and not calling it that, thats how I call it. Germans are extremely vulnerable to get sacked by France again and again. The socialisation of national debts in the EU also is something that France and Macorn always wanted, and now get. Because the French finances are a smoking ruin and the top rated threat to the Euro - not Greece, not Italy: its about France. It has always been. Brussels speaks predominantely French, is extremely francophile oriented. As a people, I like the French. As a political actor and nation of the diplomatic stage, I do not trust them further than I trust Russia or China - means: NOT AT ALL. I do not share the popular clichées of French military cowardice, that is total nonsense, but I see political France as extremely underhanded, politically. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 05-09-21 at 11:32 AM.

05-09-21, 03:51 PM	#7148
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,501 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	As I said before, those videos, imo most likely form Russian sources, are quite clever in their propaganda, becasue the avoid obvious lies that easily could be pointed out, instead bas eof real true stories. Its not the content per se but the style in which they get presented and by which they raise the wanted emotions by which they acchieve their propagandsitic effect. The appeal not to the intellect (the intellect would fight in vain here because there is no obvious lie beign told), they appeal to sentiments - and reinforce them. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-10-21, 02:05 AM	#7149
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	They grab a tiny piece of an event or quote, and build an "emotional conspiracy" on that. Interesting however that the creators of said videos cannot be located or named, there is no impressum and no one to take responsibility, and no trusted source. It is not a private opinion piece or venture, they use a literal "false flag" (the Union Jack) to pretend accountability or some legal organisation. I wonder how and why Google allows that. https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567?hl=en I mean i could publish something about hate mails that Merkel received, and build an attempted murder case out of that, inciting violent reaction. This is yellow press on steroids, anonimously. Those videos are relatively primitive, but: Also this: YouTube as political influencer __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 05-10-21 at 02:39 AM.*

05-10-21, 03:18 AM	#7150
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,501 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Even more clever, Catfish, they do not even distort things or blow them up - they just endlessly repeat them. They are true, and often the context described is true as well. You cannot pinpoint a specific untruth in it. But the world revolves not just around this one detail. But they focus on it as if it does. By that they increase its apparent relevance, or extend its longevity. And so it sinks into people's minds. Sometimes the repetition in just one 3 minute video is too much, and then it springs to the eye a bit. But else these videos are done by somebody who nows what he is doing, and with an economic use of his maybe limited ressources. I assume it is a private pro-Russian circle maybe with sponsoring Russian state/intel support. But if the the Russian intel would be exclusively own the authorship here, I am very certain that we would not see these minor hickups in the craftsmanship of these videos (synthetized robot voice, too many repetitions, names pronounced wrong). They would be doing it without us being able to so easily spot the suspicious hints. Or they want people to recongise the Russian origin. To keep the debate hot and spinning, and situations in countries therefore destabilising. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-10-21, 08:01 AM	#7151
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05-10-21, 01:24 PM	#7152
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05-10-21, 01:29 PM	#7153
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,225 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Boris Johnson has set out the next stage of lockdown easing for England Pubs and restaurants can serve people inside from next Monday. Galleries, theatres, cinemas and soft play centres can also reopen. Hugging will be allowed but people should consider the vulnerabilities of their loved ones, he says. People will be able to meet inside in groups of six, or two households. Up to 30 people will be allowed to attend weddings, receptions, funerals and wakes. The UK chief medical officers earlier lowered the Covid-19 alert level from four to three. Zero coronavirus deaths were announced in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland on Monday. Restrictions are also being eased across Europe, including in Ireland and Spain. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

05-10-21, 01:30 PM	#7154
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,891 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Understatement in number of death to this Corona virus. From what I understand, by watching the news there has been an underestimation in reporting the number of death. In an interview on CNN a known person, but which name is forgotten by me, said that the real number in US could be 900.000 death. Is this been done on purpose if so WHY ? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

05-10-21, 01:30 PM	#7155
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