Wuhan virus 2020

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Sigh.

Bavaria is no Nation. The EU is no nation. The OECD is no nation.

Germany is a nation.

Texas is no nation. NAFTA is no nation. The UN or the two Americas are no nation.

The US is a nation.

The seat of NAFTA does not tell the US or Canada or Mexico what to do with covid, each of the three nations do their own thing, inside each nation provinces, federal states, districts do their autonomous own thing, but on some things they must listen to the voice of the national capitol.

Brussel does not tell each nation what to do with covid, every nation runs its own regime, and inside each nation provinces/districts/federal states do their own autonomous thing, but on some things they must listen to the voice of the national capitol.

End of this absurd debate for me.

Pretty simple, 28 states within Europe formed a Union and as such compiles statistics that reflect what going on within that Union. Like the U.S. the E.U.'s external borders are regulated. Like the U.S. its internal borders are open to relatively unrestricted travel to both people and viruses. Hence the the current increase in infections.

Doesn't have a thing to do with definitions of what a nation, country or state is, NAFTA, AFL/CIO, price of tea in China, whats written on a passport or Trump. Face facts the European Union is a government and those statistics are published by YOUR government.


I still love ya Skybird

[mapuc]

I don't feel for derailing this thread to much, but I have to write an off topic comment on this EU thing.

In many ways we are one nation...
If you only knew how many times I hear the words..It's something EU has to decide/approve(in our main stream media).

Markus

[Rockstar]

Pfizer COVID vaccines flown to U.S.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...liveBlogHeader


Think maybe its a cover up and Trump and the big pharma friends he just pardoned for taking candy from babies are stealing it for themselves and really flying the vaccine to the secret island where the Bush Cheney weather machine is located? lol

[Jimbuna]

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says she will not have an "indoor Christmas dinner" with her parents to avoid putting them at risk.

Boris Johnson hopes to avoid a Conservative rebellion over the three tier system of restrictions in England by publishing an impact assessment.

A study has found that coronavirus cases in England fell by almost a third in a fortnight after the latest lockdown restrictions began.

Shops in England could stay open longer in the run-up to Christmas in a plan to boost high streets.

The retail empire Arcadia, which has been hit by the pandemic, could face collapse within hours.

US virus expert Anthony Fauci has warned of a "surge upon a surge" in cases after millions of people ignored advice and travelled home for Thanksgiving.

Globally more than 62.7 million people have been infected and 1.46 million have died with Covid, according to Johns Hopkins University.

[Jimbuna]

More leading disease experts have issued dire warnings about the spread of coronavirus in the US after millions travelled home for Thanksgiving, against medical advice.
A coronavirus adviser to President-elect Joe Biden, Dr Céline Gounder, told CBS News she was concerned about the pressure on hospitals after the November holiday.
Dr Gounder said "unfortunately, that means that many people who celebrated with family, with friends over Thanksgiving will find themselves in the hospital, in ICUs over Christmas and New Year".
Dr Gounder issued the warning on Saturday, a day before data showed the number of people in hospital with Covid-19 in the US had reached a record high of 93,238.
The US has already recorded more than 13.3 million infections and 266,875 deaths, the highest figures in the world on both counts.
Another expert, emergency medicine physician Dr Megan Ranney, likened the strain coronavirus was placing on hospitals to “a natural disaster occurring in all 50 states at the same time”.

With just a couple of days left in England’s national lockdown, a major study suggests infections have fallen by about a third.
Some of the worst-hit areas saw the biggest improvements during the four-week shutdown, the study found.
But cases remain high, with an estimated 72,000 new infections a day compared to 100,000 before lockdown.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the country cannot "take our foot off the pedal just yet".
The findings come from Imperial College’s React-1 study, which gives the most up-to-date picture of infections. It involved swabbing more than 100,000 people from 13-24 November.

China’s economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic has gathered more momentum, a year after the first cases were detected in Wuhan.
Manufacturing activity in November grew at its fastest rate for three years on the Purchasing Managers' Index, data showed.
An official at China's National Bureau of Statistics, Shi Zhaohui, attributed the growth in part to “notable achievements in the overall planning for Covid-19 prevention”.
China’s economy shrank by 6.8% in the first three months of 2020, when the country imposed some of the world's strictest lockdown measures.
But some forecasters expect its overall economy to expand by about 2% over the entire year.

Thousands of health workers have marched in the Spanish capital, Madrid, in support of the country's public health system. They called for an increase in funding to cope with the pressures of the pandemic.

Turkey is reporting record death rates amid concerns a recent surge in infections may overwhelm its health system.

In Germany, some traditional festive markets are going ahead, but with a novel twist. They are opening to drivers - rather than visitors on foot - with each stall operating as a drive-through service.

In France, the country’s top court has ordered the government to review a law limiting the number of people in churches during religious services to 30

[Rockstar]

European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control

An agency of the European Union

As of 30 November 2020,

13 123 678 cases have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK and rising

321 998 deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK an increase of 2,286 thousand deaths since yesterday.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Moderna is filing for US and European emergency regulatory approval of its coronavirus vaccine so that it can be recommended for widespread use.

Regulators will look at trial data for the mRNA vaccine and decide if it is safe and effective enough to recommend for roll out.

Clinical studies show the jab is more than 94% effective at protecting people from becoming ill with Covid-19.

Pfizer, which has a similar jab, has already filed for the same US approval.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55129336

[Jimbuna]

Health and care workers in Scotland are to be given a £500 payment as a "thank you" for their work during the pandemic, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

The SNP leader announced the one-off payment to thank NHS and care staff for their "extraordinary service" in 2020.

It will be paid to all full-time NHS and adult social care staff, with a proportional share for part-time staff.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55124729

Hopefully this will shame Boris into doing likewise.

[Rockstar]

European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control

An agency of the European Union

As of 01 December 2020,

13 229 794 million cases have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK and rising.

325 407 thousand deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK and rising. An increase of 3,409 deaths since yesterday and rising. Making it the largest number of deaths and increases anywhere in the world. European Union leaders having ordered State leaders to open Schengen borders and prioritize commerce has largely contributed to these dramatic and massive increases in the number of deaths.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

European Union leaders having ordered State leaders to open Schengen borders and prioritize commerce has largely contributed to these dramatic and massive increases in the number of deaths.

I've explained this to you before already; EU members can close and keep their borders closed either completely or to select countries whether they're in Schengen or not. EU leaders have no authority to order any country to open their borders.


Finland has currently closed its borders to travelers from a good two dozen countries, many of them from the Schengen area.

[Rockstar]

Oh yes the Euro illusion of autonomy... You really should keep up with the news in your own Union Dowly. Schengen and commerce is the priority and internal borders are open and the virus is spreading.


Finland's borders are regulated by Finland but they are open for business from the Baltic States, Sweden and Norway.

EU guidance: how to reopen borders


In a package of proposals to enable travelling to resume safely in the EU, the Commission proposed on 13 May to countries that are part of the Schengen zone to gradually reopen their internal borders. The emphasis is on coordination, no discrimination based on nationality and the respect of common health-related criteria based on guidance by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

EU interior ministers confirmed on 5 June that most member states will have lifted the controls at their internal borders and the related travel restrictions by 15 June, with others due to follow by the end of the month. Ministers agreed to continue to coordinate closely under the lead of the Commission. Ahead of the 15 June deadline, the Commission issued further recommendations on how to lift restrictions with non-EU countries after 1 July 2020.

“If we fail to restore the integrity of Schengen, we would seriously endanger the European project,” Fajon said. MEPs therefore want to ensure that any future internal borders controls remain truly exceptional and very limited in time.

[Jimbuna]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-55142152

The US is going through the worst stage of its coronavirus outbreak since the pandemic began, the top infectious diseases expert in the country has said.

Dr Anthony Fauci told the BBC new records appeared to be set every day, with between 100,000 to 200,000 new cases and 1,000 to 2,000 deaths seen daily.

He said the US had broken a national record for the number of people currently in the hospital with Covid 19. As of Monday, there were a record 96,039 people in hospital with the disease, according to the Covid Tracking Project.

“And the totals of deaths are 266,000 deaths and over 13 million cases. So we're really having a terrible time,” Dr Fauci added.



US President Donald Trump's controversial special adviser on the coronavirus, Scott Atlas, has resigned.

Dr Fauci could well be living on borrowed time now.