Destroyers unable to detect boat above 8x time compression?

[FeatsOfStrength]

I've been playing with options in SH3 Commander, I changed the base time compression for when near enemies up to x32 from x8 just to speed up the game a bit.

I've noticed however that this seems to have made enemy escorts completely unable to detect me.

I've done maybe 6 convoy attacks and even when enemy boats come near me I don't seem to hear any asdic pings and they drop no depth charges. I'm in 1942 so this is particularly strange as i'm used to getting nearly destroyed after each convoy attack.

Is this a known issue with time-compression or have I just been incredibly lucky? If so is there a limit outside the base game tc limits where you can still play and be detected by enemies?

Edit: I'll add this is when I'm submerged, they're perfectly capable of finding me on the surface with radar.

[blackswan40]

Hi FeatsOfStrength I never altered time compression when playing our Steel sharks GWX Campaign when heading to my patrol grid on surface at max time compression and if something came near to me it would drop to x32
wether it was a aircraft a single ship sighting or a escort or convoy.


Is this 1939-1940 time frame early war if so radar isnt in most escorts and the escorts ar'nt that good with green crews as the war progresses its a all new ball game when you run into a large convoy with sixty plus merchants
and 12-20 escorts also hunter killer groups patroling the shipping lanes
areas like the rockall banks where HX SC SL HG convoys converge on their final trudge to liverpool or belfast or Outbound Convoys OA OB OG.
Also when your leaving your channel coast base lorient st nazaire boardeaux
late 1941 onwards my advice would be once outside the harbour of the bases and you have enough depth under your keel 15-18 mtrs get to periscope depth quick because by 1942 them Jabos allied fighter bombers are like flys around a pot of jam in the bay of biscay or bay of dismay
when you get walloped.

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by FeatsOfStrength

I've been playing with options in SH3 Commander, I changed the base time compression for when near enemies up to x32 from x8 just to speed up the game a bit.

I've noticed however that this seems to have made enemy escorts completely unable to detect me.

I've done maybe 6 convoy attacks and even when enemy boats come near me I don't seem to hear any asdic pings and they drop no depth charges. I'm in 1942 so this is particularly strange as i'm used to getting nearly destroyed after each convoy attack.

Is this a known issue with time-compression or have I just been incredibly lucky? If so is there a limit outside the base game tc limits where you can still play and be detected by enemies?

Edit: I'll add this is when I'm submerged, they're perfectly capable of finding me on the surface with radar.

x32 shouldn't be a problem but you can try a lower number if desired. However, the escorts in <insert version here> aren't very good anyway at any stage of the war.
Either are the aircraft.

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by blackswan40

Hi FeatsOfStrength I never altered time compression when playing our Steel sharks GWX Campaign when heading to my patrol grid on surface at max time compression and if something came near to me it would drop to x32
wether it was a aircraft a single ship sighting or a escort or convoy.


Is this 1939-1940 time frame early war if so radar isnt in most escorts and the escorts ar'nt that good with green crews as the war progresses its a all new ball game when you run into a large convoy with sixty plus merchants
and 12-20 escorts also hunter killer groups patroling the shipping lanes
areas like the rockall banks where HX SC SL HG convoys converge on their final trudge to liverpool or belfast or Outbound Convoys OA OB OG.
Also when your leaving your channel coast base lorient st nazaire boardeaux
late 1941 onwards my advice would be once outside the harbour of the bases and you have enough depth under your keel 15-18 mtrs get to periscope depth quick because by 1942 them Jabos allied fighter bombers are like flys around a pot of jam in the bay of biscay or bay of dismay
when you get walloped.

Re the AOD manual pages, yes, but AOD escorts/convoys followed historical tactics, etc.
SH3's don't.

[FeatsOfStrength]

I think something must be off as a destroyer passed over me literally minutes after torpedoing a merchant in a convoy whilst I was only 30m below the water without silent running and it just kept going, not seeing me there. The in game date is December 1942 so I would have thought them more vigilant. Haven't had a single depth charge dropped on me this career and i'm on my 7th patrol.

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by FeatsOfStrength

I think something must be off as a destroyer passed over me literally minutes after torpedoing a merchant in a convoy whilst I was only 30m below the water without silent running and it just kept going, not seeing me there. The in game date is December 1942 so I would have thought them more vigilant. Haven't had a single depth charge dropped on me this career and i'm on my 7th patrol.

Like I said, they're not very good. Your experience isn't unusual.

[John Pancoast]

There is a setting in the sim.cfg file that is easy to change that will give them better hydrophone ability/easier to find and keep you in contact.
They still won't react *before* an attack as well as they should (helps a little) but it helps after one.
If interested, let me know.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

There is a setting in the sim.cfg file that is easy to change that will give them better hydrophone ability/easier to find and keep you in contact.
They still won't react *before* an attack as well as they should (helps a little) but it helps after one.
If interested, let me know.

Always good to know...if you please?

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Always good to know...if you please?

In the "Hydrophone" section, called "Noise Factor". Scale goes from 1.0 (deaf) to 0.0 (hear you on the dark side of the moon ). I.e., smaller number = more noise from the player.
For myself, I've found .10-.15 is about as low as I want to go. One can choose a single setting and always have that in place or use SH3 Commander to pick from a number of settings to pick from.
I use the Commander option to pick from either the "stock" setting of whatever sim.cfg file I'm using or from a number of lower settings.
I.e., NYGM's stock setting is .25. I have it set up so that there is a 60% chance of either .2, .15, or .1 being picked leaving a 40% chance that the stock setting gets picked.

[John Pancoast]

FeatsofStrength, what is your mod list anyway ?