SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-27-20, 10:13 PM   #541
Buddahaid
Shark above Space Chicken
 
Buddahaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,560
Downloads: 160
Uploads: 0


Default

Blake. I keep hearing protesters saying he wasn't doing anything.
__________________
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4962/oeBHq3.jpg
"However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light."
Stanley Kubrick

"Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming."
David Bowie
Buddahaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 03:26 PM   #542
Catfish
Dipped Squirrel Operative
 
Catfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky
Posts: 16,897
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0


Default

It certainly is a good idea to be cooperative, but that doesn't mean cops that f.. up shouldn't be held responsible.
__________________


>^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.
Catfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 03:37 PM   #543
mapuc
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Denmark
Posts: 17,901
Downloads: 37
Uploads: 0


Default

The only thing I wonder is:

Was it necessary to shoot him 7 times in the back ?

Markus
mapuc is online   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 03:45 PM   #544
Buddahaid
Shark above Space Chicken
 
Buddahaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,560
Downloads: 160
Uploads: 0


Default

True but I not sure where or if that started. Should the cops have let a person with a felony arrest warrant for sexual assault drive off in a car with kids in it and a person that wasn't cooperating to boot? A car can be a deadly weapon and the cops wouldn't want to fire into a car with kids in it so they couldn't let him drive off.
__________________
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4962/oeBHq3.jpg
"However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light."
Stanley Kubrick

"Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming."
David Bowie
Buddahaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 03:59 PM   #545
Catfish
Dipped Squirrel Operative
 
Catfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky
Posts: 16,897
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddahaid View Post
True but I not sure where or if that started.
True, and the rest is all speculation, but for the filmed seven shots.
Don't tasers work? Would have one shot been enough?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca...eporting-story

Ok yes i agree no one knows what happened exactly. Despite this, minor criminals can be arrested with less hazzle all over the world.
__________________


>^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

Last edited by Catfish; 08-28-20 at 04:24 PM.
Catfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 04:50 PM   #546
Mr Quatro
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 6,772
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Blake wasn't bending over to get in his car ... He could've just slid in to do that

He was bending over to get his knife under the drivers side foot carpet, plus
FB photo shows a deadly knife that was hidden in his belt that he had just removed before he got to the drivers side of his car.

True FB could've passed on a photo shopped knife in his hand, but it looked real to me.
__________________
pla•teau noun
a relatively stable level, period,
or condition a level of attainment
or achievement

Lord help me get to the next plateau ..


Mr Quatro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 04:59 PM   #547
Catfish
Dipped Squirrel Operative
 
Catfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky
Posts: 16,897
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Quatro View Post
Blake wasn't bending over to get in his car ... He could've just slid in to do that
He was bending over to get his knife under the drivers side foot carpet, plus
FB photo shows a deadly knife that was hidden in his belt that he had just removed before he got to the drivers side of his car.
No easy situation.
Still: Three police officers, three x guns, tasers, pepper spray, handcuffs. And seven shots, from behind?
How do other (western) countries arrest minor criminals grabbing for a knife.
__________________


>^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.
Catfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 05:25 PM   #548
Buddahaid
Shark above Space Chicken
 
Buddahaid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,560
Downloads: 160
Uploads: 0


Default

And he couldn't be allowed to get in the car. Bad for him because if cops have to shoot they don't screw around and one shot isn't enough to put someone down in many cases.
__________________
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4962/oeBHq3.jpg
"However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light."
Stanley Kubrick

"Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming."
David Bowie
Buddahaid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 05:48 PM   #549
u crank
Old enough to know better
 
u crank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Prince Edward Island
Posts: 11,560
Downloads: 136
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
No easy situation.
Still: Three police officers, three x guns, tasers, pepper spray, handcuffs. And seven shots, from behind?
It is unfortunate that they couldn't subdue him and put cuffs on him. But they tried. Two tasers were used but didn't work. He wasn't shot seven times. Seven shots were fired, four hit him.

But the sad truth is that Jacob Blake was given every opportunity to have this turn out different. He chose not to. When police officers say that you are under arrest you should listen. When police officers have their guns drawn you should do exactly what they say.
__________________

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”

― Arthur C. Clarke




u crank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 11:00 PM   #550
em2nought
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,272
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
No easy situation.
Still: Three police officers, three x guns, tasers, pepper spray, handcuffs. And seven shots, from behind?
How do other (western) countries arrest minor criminals grabbing for a knife.
Narwhal tusks?
__________________
Looks like we need a Lemon Law for Presidents now! DNC sold us a dud, and they knew it.
em2nought is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 11:20 PM   #551
Onkel Neal
Born to Run Silent
 
Onkel Neal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1997
Location: Cougar Trap, Texas
Posts: 21,284
Downloads: 534
Uploads: 224


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
It certainly is a good idea to be cooperative, but that doesn't mean cops that f.. up shouldn't be held responsible.
Most people agree. If someone is wanted and resists arrest, then he's the one who screwed up.

Btw, is sexual assault a minor crime now?

Quote:
Originally Posted by u crank View Post
When police officers say that you are under arrest you should listen. When police officers have their guns drawn you should do exactly what they say.
Man, ain't that the truth. It just confirms my argument that it's mostly stupid people getting shot like this. We don't hear about the 10,000 people being stopped daily by the law because they don't act a fool.
Onkel Neal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-20, 11:35 PM   #552
Aktungbby
Gefallen Engel U-666
 
Aktungbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy
Posts: 27,867
Downloads: 22
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by u crank View Post
It is unfortunate that they couldn't subdue him and put cuffs on him. But they tried. Two tasers were used but didn't work. He wasn't shot seven times. Seven shots were fired, four hit him.

But the sad truth is that Jacob Blake was given every opportunity to have this turn out different. He chose not to. When police officers say that you are under arrest you should listen. When police officers have their guns drawn you should do exactly what they say.

I just love it that four bullets hit the perpetrator out of seven discharged at 'point-blank' range ...which means three rounds were not 'on-target'...in an car situation with three innocent children seated in the vehicle!
__________________

"Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"
Aktungbby is online   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-20, 05:25 AM   #553
Jimbuna
Chief of the Boat
 
Jimbuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 250 metres below the surface
Posts: 181,240
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 13


Default

Jacob Blake, the black man shot in the back by police in the US state of Wisconsin, has reportedly been released from handcuffs while in hospital.

Police in Kenosha had said that Mr Blake was in custody for previous warrants and the handcuffs were policy.

His attorney told US media that these warrants had been cancelled and that officers guarding Mr Blake had left.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53950621
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!!


GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)
Jimbuna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-20, 07:30 AM   #554
Bilge_Rat
Silent Hunter
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: standing watch...
Posts: 3,793
Downloads: 344
Uploads: 0
Default

As predicted, Chauvin's lawyer is already arguing the case should be dismissed because Floyd died from an overdose of Fentanyl:

Quote:
Defense attorneys sought to put the blame on Floyd for his death, arguing that his alleged drug use was the critical factor.

"Put simply, Mr. Floyd could not breathe because he had ingested a lethal dose of fentanyl and, possibly, a speedball," Chauvin's attorney said in the court documents. "Combined with sickle cell trait, his pre-existing heart conditions, Mr. Floyd’s use of fentanyl and methamphetamine most likely killed him."

They argued that without knowledge of Floyd's alleged drug use or symptoms of overdose, Chauvin "was unaware of the potential dangerous of using MRT (Maximal Restraint Technique)," a reference to the officer's knee on the victim's neck.

"Instead, he (Chauvin) relied on his training and the information available to him to try and assist his fellow officers and to prevent Mr. Floyd from harming himself," the defense attorneys argued. "Derek Chauvin did not cause George Floyd’s death."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/5669077002/

This will most likely end up with some sort of plea deal.
__________________
Bilge_Rat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-20, 02:16 PM   #555
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 22,667
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Bet you won't find this on the Dem media...

Quote:
Black man hits unexpecting white man in head with brick in Baltimore


https://www.news.com.au/technology/o...d3e94127f4d256
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

Last edited by August; 08-31-20 at 02:29 PM.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
police, riots


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.