Uninstalling Grey Wolves - Page 2

Nangleator · 02-08-11, 06:04 PM

In stock SHIII, I probably have completed 40 or so patrols. Never saw a military ship bigger than a destroyer.

Pappy55 · 02-08-11, 07:15 PM

There is a GWX friendly mod that disables non essential radio chatter.. I am trying to find it again myself

EDIT**

Just found it by luck..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1385

try that

Wulfgar44 · 02-11-11, 06:22 PM

Finally came under attack by a destoyer. Ran into a convoy moving NE towards Norway on my way to AN 14. Just ran upon it. Mostly neutrals. But one or two Brits mixed in. I dove to 40m and was chugging along at 4kts,... guess the Teabag heard me. My hydro guy told me they were coming right for me. At the time I was trying to get into a better position to attack the few Brits hiding inside the convoy. All the ones I saw at first on the outside were Swedish and Norwegian. With the destroyer coming, I dove to 90m and set my speed to 1kt. He had trouble finding me at first. Eventually he did some damage to my stern and propellers. We sank to 124m before we could come up again. The DC's lasted for about 2.5 hours before I could get out of there. Now I'm on my way to Helo-something to get repairs. I'm in a IID.

frau kaleun · 02-11-11, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wulfgar44

Finally came under attack by a destoyer. Ran into a convoy moving NE towards Norway on my way to AN 14. Just ran upon it. Mostly neutrals. But one or two Brits mixed in. I dove to 40m and was chugging along at 4kts,... guess the Teabag heard me. My hydro guy told me they were coming right for me. At the time I was trying to get into a better position to attack the few Brits hiding inside the convoy. All the ones I saw at first on the outside were Swedish and Norwegian. With the destroyer coming, I dove to 90m and set my speed to 1kt. He had trouble finding me at first. Eventually he did some damage to my stern and propellers. We sank to 124m before we could come up again. The DC's lasted for about 2.5 hours before I could get out of there. Now I'm on my way to Helo-something to get repairs. I'm in a IID.

If you're going to Helgoland, be careful. I'm told the Tommies dropped mines in that vicinity soon after the war started.

Obersteuermann · 02-12-11, 12:37 AM

Seeing as you're getting latched onto by elite destroyers all the time, whereabouts do you normally operate? I've lost count of the number of times my careers have ended within 300kms NW of Scotland. The game just loves vectoring infallible V&Ws/Black Swans onto me in that area.

Like Pisces says, take your boat down for a test dive somewhere safe before you get into hostile waters. I usually go for the Norwegian side of the Skagerrak (can't be bothered with the Kiel Canal - it's so narrow/shallow that I rarely get above TC16 while navigating it) whilst outbound. In a Type VII, take her straight down to 160 metres and then down again in 10-metre steps to find your danger depth.

You'll be surprised just how deep you can push it sometimes. My last VIIB got down to 255 metres before the pressure hull started leaking, but that was with SH3 Cdr's "randomise crush depth" setting ticked.

As for your evasion tactics - always, always, always keep moving. If you were tracking a target that stopped dead, you wouldn't lose it all of a sudden! Gentle turns of 15-20 degrees at decently-spaced intervals work best for breaking asdic contacts. The AI will remember your last location and direction of travel and pings the area based on that info when it loses you. Lots of gentle turns are better than one long reversal.

Wulfgar44 · 02-12-11, 10:55 AM

I made it to Helgoland. I'll be watching on the way out.

Gargamel · 02-12-11, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wulfgar44

I made it to Helgoland. I'll be watching on the way out.

Ya... never go to the east of Helgoland. Bad things await.

frau kaleun · 02-12-11, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel

Ya... never go to the east of Helgoland. Bad things await.

I've always steered clear of it altogether, although the last time I left Willy it was still pre-war so we went in close enough to get a good look at it (through the binocs, anyway). Once the war starts I don't get near it. No real reason to, I guess if were in really dire straits and had no way to make it to Kiel or Willy, but that's never happened.

Jimbuna · 02-13-11, 06:32 PM

B etter not to go near it but the western shores are much more dangerous

Wulfgar44 · 02-15-11, 04:58 PM

That's interesting it's so dangerous. Made it in and out without a hitch. I'm in March of '40 at 92%. May not go back, I didn't want to finish my patrol so thought I'd get patched up there and then finish patrol. So far so good.

127Tom · 04-06-24, 11:34 AM

Just dive down to 25 or 60 meters. Use silent running, turn away a bit...
Then you can lure the escorts after a few minutes using hydrophone info and ambush them with a torpedo hit.

John Pancoast · 04-07-24, 05:23 PM

I uninstalled SH3 awhile back (insert mod name here including a personal mix) partly because the escorts are brain dead idiots that are easily defeated most anytime, anywhere.
Not meant as a knock on any mods; they've all done the best possible with what is available.

But if you're new to subsims I could see it being difficult.

Aktungbby · 04-07-24, 05:29 PM

127Tom!

02-08-11, 07:15 PM	#17
Pappy55 Engineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 211 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 0	There is a GWX friendly mod that disables non essential radio chatter.. I am trying to find it again myself EDIT** Just found it by luck.. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1385 try that __________________

02-11-11, 06:22 PM	#18
Wulfgar44 Watch Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Niagara Falls,NY Posts: 29 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Attacked!!!! Finally came under attack by a destoyer. Ran into a convoy moving NE towards Norway on my way to AN 14. Just ran upon it. Mostly neutrals. But one or two Brits mixed in. I dove to 40m and was chugging along at 4kts,... guess the Teabag heard me. My hydro guy told me they were coming right for me. At the time I was trying to get into a better position to attack the few Brits hiding inside the convoy. All the ones I saw at first on the outside were Swedish and Norwegian. With the destroyer coming, I dove to 90m and set my speed to 1kt. He had trouble finding me at first. Eventually he did some damage to my stern and propellers. We sank to 124m before we could come up again. The DC's lasted for about 2.5 hours before I could get out of there. Now I'm on my way to Helo-something to get repairs. I'm in a IID.

02-12-11, 10:55 AM	#21
Wulfgar44 Watch Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Niagara Falls,NY Posts: 29 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the Warning I made it to Helgoland. I'll be watching on the way out.

02-13-11, 06:32 PM	#24
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,240 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	B etter not to go near it but the western shores are much more dangerous __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

02-15-11, 04:58 PM	#25
Wulfgar44 Watch Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Niagara Falls,NY Posts: 29 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Helgoland That's interesting it's so dangerous. Made it in and out without a hitch. I'm in March of '40 at 92%. May not go back, I didn't want to finish my patrol so thought I'd get patched up there and then finish patrol. So far so good.

02-08-11, 06:04 PM	#16
Nangleator Mate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Billerica Posts: 58 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	In stock SHIII, I probably have completed 40 or so patrols. Never saw a military ship bigger than a destroyer.

02-12-11, 12:37 AM	#20
Obersteuermann Shore leave Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 70 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Seeing as you're getting latched onto by elite destroyers all the time, whereabouts do you normally operate? I've lost count of the number of times my careers have ended within 300kms NW of Scotland. The game just loves vectoring infallible V&Ws/Black Swans onto me in that area. Like Pisces says, take your boat down for a test dive somewhere safe before you get into hostile waters. I usually go for the Norwegian side of the Skagerrak (can't be bothered with the Kiel Canal - it's so narrow/shallow that I rarely get above TC16 while navigating it) whilst outbound. In a Type VII, take her straight down to 160 metres and then down again in 10-metre steps to find your danger depth. You'll be surprised just how deep you can push it sometimes. My last VIIB got down to 255 metres before the pressure hull started leaking, but that was with SH3 Cdr's "randomise crush depth" setting ticked. As for your evasion tactics - always, always, always keep moving. If you were tracking a target that stopped dead, you wouldn't lose it all of a sudden! Gentle turns of 15-20 degrees at decently-spaced intervals work best for breaking asdic contacts. The AI will remember your last location and direction of travel and pings the area based on that info when it loses you. Lots of gentle turns are better than one long reversal.

04-06-24, 11:34 AM	#26
127Tom Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2024 Posts: 1 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Re: escorts Just dive down to 25 or 60 meters. Use silent running, turn away a bit... Then you can lure the escorts after a few minutes using hydrophone info and ambush them with a torpedo hit.

04-07-24, 05:23 PM	#27
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,185 Downloads: 490 Uploads: 4	I uninstalled SH3 awhile back (insert mod name here including a personal mix) partly because the escorts are brain dead idiots that are easily defeated most anytime, anywhere. Not meant as a knock on any mods; they've all done the best possible with what is available. But if you're new to subsims I could see it being difficult. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

04-07-24, 05:29 PM	#28
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,865 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! 127Tom! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"